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Joss does love to make his people miserable.

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Originally posted by embers:
Joss does love to make his people miserable.

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"Maybe that's why we lost."

Dark ain't the general audiences' cup of tea?

The laughing Chrisisall

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I always thought that most of the people who saw it really liked it....

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ALL of the peeps in my film class this semester didn't see it. I intend to remedy that.

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oh I hope you do! And then let us know what people say....
because all my friends & family who watched it really loved it...

But getting people to watch something with no bankable 'stars' in it is a tough sell.

I was always hoping that Summer Glau and/or Nathan Fillion would become more high profile stars so that Universal would be motivated to put out our sequel....





New Firefly fans should check this out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=15816

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Just taking a random film noir: Nikita. We never really pull back and see the whole picture. We don't know why the targets are targets, and what the master plan is, we're not even sure of how the operation runs, outside of the training. What makes Nikita brilliant is the tragic nature of circumstance, she is not at all a believer in the mission.

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Even Jayne, who lost a good friend in the preacher, he's going to need consolation. He's not all heartless, as Jaynestown proved, and I think he would grieve once things've slowed down and he has the chance. And I kind of got the impression, from that moment in the movie where Jayne passes Simon some whiskey before agreeing to the suicide mission, that he's willing to set aside the problems he had with Simon and River. He's realized there's more important things than his grudge. He'll be loyal, more part of the family, and in return he's also going to get more respect from the others. He'll still drink, be crude, be greedy, and go to whore houses, though, unless Book's death helped him find religion or something.

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River will still be crazy (her amygdala was removed, it's not going to grow back), will still have nightmares about the Academy, but with the hands of blue defeated and with the secret about Miranda no longer burdening her, there will be less fear. No way of knowing if she's stable enough to be pilot long term, but for now she's probably all right, so long as she's supervised. The task will probably help her focus and feel needed, useful. And Mal will watch over her if no one else will (i.e. they're busy with whatever).

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Kaylee and Simon... Someone told me that in the Auzzie release of Serenity, Joss Whedon said their relationship is doomed. I hope not, it'd kind of be a tragic illustration of the 'verse if the two most innocent souls on the boat can't make it work. On the other hand, I've also heard someone say that Joss confirmed that the two of them really do love each other, so who knows?

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Mal and Inara's relationship is interesting because they're always fighting. And I don't think they'll ever stop, they're two stubborn, rational people with very different opinions and approaches to solving problems. No idea if they'll ever get together, though I've heard Joss has commented "they're perfect for each other." As I've said before, if they do get together, I think it'll be on again, off again, depending on what they're currently fighting about and how furiously. I think Inara will stay with the crew to help them even if the fighting does get bad, filling the much needed role after Miranda of emotional/spiritual counselor. I also think she'll rent out the shuttle for work again, and Mal will go along with it. She's not about to stop working, especially with Mal being around, she's got something to prove. He can't handle her leaving again (both personally and for the sake of his crew), and will accommodate her so she doesn't. He'll probably stop calling her whore, since he's had to accept her profession, and was willing to try before she even left, if his attempt at confession at the end of HOG is any indication.

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Nikita. Did you [like] the film?

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I would start a sequel 2 years after the events of Serenity...that is enough time to allow for the actors getting older and the franchise can cash in on more comics, books and even a game or two.

Obviously Blue Sun will be the baddies this time around, and a few visions and second hand hints from River will lead Mal and the crew on another 'against the odds' adventure to uncover their secrets.

Here is my take on how the crew has evolved in the lead up to the second movie.

Mal: Mal quickly learns that the relief that came after the events from Serenity are short-lived and times can become even harder when everyone refuses to work with the `hero' that the alliance want dead. The events of Miranda kick up a stir in some Independance fundamentalists...who seek Mal to lead them and help re-establish a rebellion. While initially interested and passionate, Mal has to come to the realisation that the war was over many years ago and Alliance just can't be overrun.
Mal finally makes a move at Inara...which leads to a endless fight over him demanding her to quit her job as a companion.
In his quiet moments Mal finds himself having intense arguments with the spirit of Book.. Is Shepherd visiting him from beyond or is a manisfestation of Mal's own self concious?

Jayne: The events of Serenity turn Jayne into a really loyal, un-Jayne like character. Gone is the ``Money was too good'' guy and in his place is the same hard ass, but now a true member of the crew with the occasional angry outburst. Expect a few more ghosts in his past to come back and test his new-found loyalty.

Zoe: I don't see Zoe getting preggos, but I would like the challenges a child of 1-2 years would bring up for the crew.
I see Zoe losing all the personality that Wash dragged out of her and going 100% back into 'warrior woman' mode.
A brief hope that Wash is infact alive pulls Zoe out of her state of anger.

Wash: How do you reveal Blue Sun as the evil corporation they are, while getting the crew of Serenity involved at the same time?? Answer = Wash. While its only a pipe dream of mine, I expect Wash to wake up in some cold, Blue Sun facility with a hole in his chest after being taken from Alliance control by Blue Sun. The crew would have thought reavers had got to him and assumed there was no body to speak of, while the Blue Sun were able to steal Wash away from an Alliance medical centre immediately after the end of Serenity. River uses her brainy powers to reveal the secret and help reunite the crew with their pilot.

Simon/Kaylee: Doomed.. It wont last long because Simon cant help but offend Kaylee every 4 seconds, but after a long and angry talk from Mal, the two learn to get along on the ship. Simon begins to ponder life off Serenity again and Kaylee continues to be kaylee looking after her girl.

Inara: Always linked to the ship against her better instincts, Inara holds onto hope that Mal will reveal his true feelings...when he finally does the two have some brief happiness before the fighting begins about her profession and role on the boat. The secret of the vile and her past is revealed by a curious Mal...the answers possibly mean a future is impossible for the two.

Serenity: Patched up and looking her best, the ship undergoes a few upgrades and takes on a weaponmount after one-too-many run-ins with bounty hunters.

Rivers feet: Continue to go without shoes and lead our heroine on her lovely strolls around the ship.

Make it happen Universal!

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