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The Operative (at the end of the movie...)
Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:55 AM
SCHISM
Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:28 AM
FREEBROWNCOAT
Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:42 AM
ZEEK
Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:03 AM
RIPWASH
Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:06 AM
Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:49 AM
BYTEMITE
Quote:Originally posted by RIPWash: I haven't seen the deleted scenes yet, but I took that dialog as meaning that the Operative basically left them alone and allowed them to fix up Serenity, letting them have parts as needed. In terms of making up for all the people that died? I'm not sure that he really cared about that. He killed innocent men, women and children when he attached Shepherd's town without any remorse. I think he only said the line about "many innocent people are dying up there" as an attempt to play to Mal's softer side, to get Mal to lower his guard. Zoe: "Get it running again." Mal: "Yeah" Zoe: "So not running now" Mal: "Not so much" - Out of Gas
Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:44 PM
IMNOTHERE
Quote:Originally posted by Schism: Based on their last conversation (if I see you again, I will kill you) I doubted that they worked together on any projects. ;p what do you guys think?
Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:02 PM
Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:07 PM
WHOZIT
Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:36 AM
CAVALIER
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: [Bthe Operative has a double standard about Alliance loyal innocents versus unaffiliated innocents.
Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:06 PM
Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:32 PM
RALLEM
Thursday, February 12, 2009 2:53 PM
Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:25 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by Schism: Upon my first watch of the movie, I wondered if, had the Op not killed Book (and their allies), if he would have given him a place onboard the ship, much like he did for Book initially (though not as aware of Book's fuzzy past at the time).
Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:50 PM
Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by rallem: I don't see any chance of the Operative ever being a crewmate aboard Serenity, but there is potential for his character becoming some sort of a recurring character sort of like Badger and Yosaffbridge. I could see him maybe become a customer of Serenity's in the future, but I don't know how or why he would hire them or they would take the job unless there were some really hard times had by both sides.
Friday, February 13, 2009 1:52 AM
Friday, February 13, 2009 4:47 AM
GWEK
Friday, February 13, 2009 6:00 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Friday, February 13, 2009 6:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I notice Mal flinch, and reach for his gun, briefly, at the sound of The Operative coming up behind him. It seems to me that Mal's not use to him being around, and I think the Operative took a passive role in the 'fixing' of Serenity. He still has some ability to pull some strings, and get things done. Though not " their man ", the Alliance isn't ( in a position ? ) ready to completely throw The Operative under the bus. For the most part, I get the impression that much of the rebuilding of Serenity was done under the direction of The Operative, though he wasn't " on site " much, if at all, until he came to say his goodbye to Mal.
Friday, February 13, 2009 3:33 PM
Saturday, February 14, 2009 4:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Oh, I agree with that. But he seemed to consider killing "innocent" alliance-loyal military personel who could live in his better world different from killing innocent rim-dwelling not-so loyal women and children on Haven who apparently couldn't.
Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:21 AM
Monday, February 16, 2009 12:24 AM
Monday, February 16, 2009 12:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: My impression is that the Operative was genuinely angry that Alliance ships were being attacked by Reavers, and knew Mal was to blame. It's the way he opens up the fight and his tone, when he tells Mal that "innocents are dying up there." Then Mal brings up Haven and reminds the Operative that innocents died there, too.
Monday, February 16, 2009 12:44 AM
Monday, February 16, 2009 4:12 AM
Monday, February 16, 2009 10:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: ...Hmm, Yeah, Miranda. I suppose that does fit better than Haven, since the Operative DOESN'T know about that, having not ordered it. But the general idea is still the same. The Operative thinks his murders are justified, and they're not. And I'd like to think Mal was still pissed enough about Haven that he'd be including that in that jab at the Operative's skewed morality.
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