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Imponderables: Winter Came Back Again?

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:32 AM

Icy car and brisk drive to work. Spring will kill it off at any moment.

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:33 AM

Winter never arrived in Austin.

Firsties!

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:25 AM

Hey I have a ponder... how do you respond to unwanted advice?
I'm getting a lot of it ( especially from my mother) about what I should and shouldn't do. I'm pretty much going with " thanks, but I think I will stick to what my OBGYN reccommends"
Anyone got any better responses to people who think that because they had a certain thing work one way for them, it must be the same for everyone?

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:27 AM

Meh, realized now I've ignored all advice and feel like a tool for doing so. Going your own way is good but having noone to blame all the BS on sucks.

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:29 AM

I usually say "yeah good idea" and then don't do anything. That or if the person has no way of knowing better I just tell them I did whatever they suggested. I played the trumpet for years and years as far as my Dad knows. I also bought my brother a happy anniversary card as far as he knows. As well as plenty of other things I'm sure. It's just easier that way.

Good idea about getting the allergies thing checked out btw MsA.

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:05 AM

so are you admitting you have allergies??
HUGS Zeek:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:28 AM

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Originally posted by MsA:
so are you admitting you have allergies??
HUGS Zeek:)

NEVER!

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:22 AM

It's cute how you think that you can stop them...giggle

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:34 AM

I don't need to stop that which does not exist.

I just need to stop my nose from running. Surely there's some sort of pill for that.

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:37 AM

yup it's called zyrtec....go get some. It's over the counter and will work within 30 min:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:04 PM

Seek medical attention right away if any of these SEVERE side effects occur when using Zyrtec:

Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; difficulty breathing; tightness in the chest; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue; unusual hoarseness); dark urine; fainting; fast or irregular heartbeat; mental or mood changes; persistent fatigue; seizures; severe dizziness; unusual bruising or bleeding; yellowing of eyes or skin.

Runny nose doesn't sound so bad.

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:08 PM

Oh you big baby!!! those are like a billion to one shot but thanks to lawyers they have to warn you just in case. Millions of people use it every day and have no problem... HUGS

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:51 PM

When your potato chips end up with a warning as such it must be stated that some things are just not worth the product.

In the case of Olean, flavor and crispness should not cause anal leakage.

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MsA:
Hey I have a ponder... how do you respond to unwanted advice?
I'm getting a lot of it ( especially from my mother) about what I should and shouldn't do. I'm pretty much going with " thanks, but I think I will stick to what my OBGYN reccommends"
Anyone got any better responses to people who think that because they had a certain thing work one way for them, it must be the same for everyone?

what kind of advice? like, pregnancy advice, or child raising advice? or both?
how bout "it's my child, let *me* raise it(him/her)"? though i like the 'i'll follow what my OBGYN recommends' one. you could always take the telly savalas approach: "butt out!!"

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:13 PM

pregnancy advice..my mom kinda likes to think she's the worlds expert on everything so she's giving a lot of advice which is opposite to what my obgyn says ... so hopefully this won't be too big a deal when we visit

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:16 PM

I like it, msa is trying to be subtle, not used to that. I would have just imagined you to be quick in telling her to stick the advice where the torch of the obgyn shines.

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:08 PM

ah I see you haven't met my mother... it's kind of like telling genghis khan mixed with martha stewart and a little dash of niska where to stick it... not a plan

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:36 PM

Just explain to her that things have changed since she last had any kids, new informations and such come along all the time, and you think it's best to go with the guys that are keeping up to date perhaps?

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Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:11 AM

Your optimism is adorable... anyone else that would work great for. See my mom is convinced beyond any thing you can imagine that her way is the only way anything can be done and if you disagree you are WRONG. She's not one to see reason. I once got yelled at quite a lot for causing problems because my field trip was caught in a serious flash flood ( we were nearly killed) and she was pissed because I didn't make sure I got my new clothes while I fled the tent running for my life and the tent got swept away into the water and my clothes were lost plus she had to come pick me up at like 3 am. Apparently I really should have planned better and had all my clothes in a bag by the door of the tent so I could have grabbed them when we were woken up and the wall of water came down on us.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:41 AM

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Originally posted by MsA:
I once got yelled at quite a lot for causing problems because my field trip was caught in a serious flash flood ( we were nearly killed) and she was pissed because I didn't make sure I got my new clothes while I fled the tent running for my life and the tent got swept away into the water and my clothes were lost plus she had to come pick me up at like 3 am. Apparently I really should have planned better and had all my clothes in a bag by the door of the tent so I could have grabbed them when we were woken up and the wall of water came down on us.

You put up with that? The proper response is "If you had raised me better maybe I would have been more prepared. Your failure is not my fault."

Parents love that line trust me.

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Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:34 AM

There is some sort of translation issue with her software. Regardless of the story or the true happening it is always her way and no other. Not that she is a bad person. Just that she is and therefore there is reason to fear her. Kinda like Black Mambas and Great White Sharks. They exist and we may never run into them but they must still be feared.

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Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:59 AM

When I get advice from someone, I usually thank them for their point of view and tell them that I will think about it. I do think it's (usually)nice that they have taken their time to share their thoughts with me. And then I really do think about it (although if it's really bad advice my thinking about it usually includes a chuckle).

If someone is pushy about it, then I'll let them know they need to back off. My tone in letting them know this will vary according to how pushy/rude they are.

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Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by MsA:
pregnancy advice..my mom kinda likes to think she's the worlds expert on everything so she's giving a lot of advice which is opposite to what my obgyn says ... so hopefully this won't be too big a deal when we visit

lolz, i think *every* mother thinks theyre the expert on pregnancy XD

i like solarflare's idea as well :P

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Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:17 AM

boredboredboredboredbored...
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Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:25 AM

NV yes my mom is a black mamba...giggle

See you're all assuming my mom is rational. You can look at her , holding absolute incontrovertable proff that she is wrong and show it to her. She will still vehemently deny your proof ( even if it were video tape of her doing it) and say you are wrong... nothing breaks through. Unfortunately this coincides with her unshakable belief that she is the ultimate expert in all things medical, scientific, spiritual, academic, mechanical, etc ( all things basically) and no one else's opinion is valid. Also if I told her she parented wrong she'd just tell me it was my fault because I wasn't " teachable" ( teachable is her code word for doing what she says when she says it)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by MsA:
Also if I told her she parented wrong she'd just tell me it was my fault because I wasn't " teachable" ( teachable is her code word for doing what she says when she says it)

She must not have taught you to be stubborn enough. You just say "well you should have raised me to be teachable!". This is the equivalent of a kid asking "why" over and over. There is no defense as a parent. They lose on both nature and nurture. So, you can just pretend humans are a blank slate and if they're disappointed with what they got it's their fault. At the very least you get a stalemate out of the situation.

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Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:31 AM

Hurmmm ... there must be a way to get around that ...

IDEA (be proud, I don't get these very often!!):
Say something along the lines of "Mum, I'm old enough now to make my own decisions. I could be wrong, but let me make my own mistakes; Its easier to learn from your own mistakes than someone else's." (Y)

~WuS
This is not my signature, I have to write this every time I post.
Smile && Nod, it makes it seem like you know what's going on.

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Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:32 AM

lolz, i love ppl like that. ><;; hate to say it, but she sounds like my grandmother a bit *slaps self for saying that* *hugs MsA* sounds like the only thing u can do is continue to ignore her advice.
my parents know they argue too much(they insist they don't, until i recount the arguments they've had while i or the bf were present), but they don't really seem to care because they always insist it's justified (even when they do it while company's over) and keep right on doing it, so i'm gonna have to train them the hard way *sigh*

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Wednesday, March 11, 2009 1:20 PM

Zeek...giggle ok I shall try it:) HUGS

So what all is everyone else up to this weekend??

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Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:47 PM

weekend?

<.<

>.>

it aint even thursday yet :P lol.
but, mom took the day off tomorrow so she and i can have some us time, go to ihop, figure out some patterns, learn the sewing machine (she knows how; to this point i've been sewing everything by hand. gets challenging after a while...)

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Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:05 PM

machines are not your friend... I much prefer hand sewing ( though that may have something to do with the incident in which I sewed my hair into the waistband of the shorts I was making)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:20 PM

O_O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ouch? good thing i have short hair :P

i dont mind hand sewing cuz im good at it and i can be precise with my stitches, but it takes such a gorram long time ><;; knowing the machine would make it easier for bigger projects.

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Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:15 AM

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Originally posted by MsA:
So what all is everyone else up to this weekend??

I'm going to a funny little get together. This one girl down here thinks that the state of Texas is special for some reason. I hear they actually go through Texas propaganda class in elementary school. It's so funny. Anyway each year she tries to have a day dedicated to the state of Texas. I go just cause I find it hilarious. Especially for a state so full of fail. Alamo - fail, Civil War - fail, George W Bush - fail, TexMex - fail.

Seriously has Texas ever done anything good?

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Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:41 AM

Oil???

Well I will say they do portions on an epic scale... and they have awesome barbeque:)

awww how cute a texas party....are you wearing cowboy boots?

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:03 AM

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Originally posted by MsA:
awww how cute a texas party....are you wearing cowboy boots?

Heck no. One year I had a shirt made full of Texas facts. All facts that point out what a Texas sized failure the state is. *is a jerk*

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Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:10 AM

Think of yourself as the party's conversational impetus:)
So why exactly do you live in Texas if you dislike it so? I mean there are plenty of other states available ( 49 to be exact)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
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Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by MsA:
Think of yourself as the party's conversational impetus:)
So why exactly do you live in Texas if you dislike it so? I mean there are plenty of other states available ( 49 to be exact)

It had the best job offer out of college. Unfortunately if I had waited just a couple years to be born I might have just been offered a remote job where I could just live where I was so they wouldn't have to pay for moving me down here. I guess it would be more likely they wouldn't even be hiring.

Anyway the point is moved for work. Don't have any emotional attachment to Austin or TX.

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Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:37 AM

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

That's pretty much the same reason I lived in Austin. I wasn't straight out of college, but work is work, you go where it is usually.

I don't know if Zeek has had the same experience, but my experience has been that there are only a handful of hubs for high tech work, Austin being one of them, but also San Francisco and Seattle, and maybe a couple of other places. I know lots of people in high tech and/or video games who hate those areas with a passion, but live there because that's where the work is.

I lucked out in that LA/SoCal has become a pretty big video game hub in the last few years, what with the proximity to Hollywood and a few of the giants of the industry being here (but really it's a pretty small percentage, most are in Austin, Seattle, or SF). Or maybe I lucked out in that I like SoCal, heh. I could also stand Seattle, having grown up in Portland, but I haven't ever had the chance to work there, just here, SF, and Austin.

I've also known more than a couple of people who had to move to Austin for work and got that "but it's Texas!" look, hehe. I tell them that Austin is a nice little town, if you can get used to not being near a huge city like LA or SF, and to look at a topographical map of Texas, and a political map. Austin is a little green/blue oasis in the middle of a bunch of red/brown, depending on which map you're looking at. ;)

There are actually things I miss about Austin, and this is making me all homesick for it, even though I consider California home, heh.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:55 AM

Yeah Austin isn't really that bad. Though Texas as a whole is not my thing.

I'm actually not deeply rooted anywhere. My ideal place to live has a warm climate, a major airport nearby (austin is lacking there IMO), and good internet access. That's about all I need. Everything else tends to fall into place if those are there.

Though I must say people who have never lived anywhere other than Texas make no sense when they say Texas is soooooo great. What the heck do you know unless you've been somewhere else that isn't great? I've lived in CA, IL, IN, MO and now TX. There's nothing all that special here trust me. The best thing they have is the Alamo Drafthouse and I bet that could be done somewhere else. :-P

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Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:57 AM

I guess I just never think of texas as being a high tech mecca... I mean come on it's texas.

Zeek at least it's not somewhere like Plano...HUGS

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
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Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:00 AM

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
The best thing they have is the Alamo Drafthouse and I bet that could be done somewhere else. :-P

They could, and yet they haven't. I think the closest theater like that to me is in downtown Oakland, which was too far away even when I lived in the Bay Area. I don't get it. People like movies. People like beer. People like yummy greasy food. Why not combine that more often? I'm sure people in SoCal would go for it, heh.

See, making me miss Austin. Every Christmas I say I'm going to get out to the Drafthouse and every year I don't (though I did manage to go see a movie this year, it was Twilight and wasn't playing at the Drafthouse, hehe).

Speaking of movies, did anyone see Watchmen? I saw it last weekend and... Well I'll let other people reply first, heh.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:03 AM

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Lol MsA, that's exactly it. Texas isn't high tech, but Austin is -- Austin not actually being a part of Texas, just surrounded by it. Dell is headquartered there, along with several other programming and tech companies, and there are tons of video game companies there too.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
Speaking of movies, did anyone see Watchmen? I saw it last weekend and... Well I'll let other people reply first, heh.

Too flustered thinking of glowing, blue penis to make a comment huh? I thought it was just OK. The story kept me interested the whole time at least, but I don't think I'd bother watching it again. Now that I know all the mysteries there's not much left that would keep me interested for nearly 3 hours (unless the director's cut has the hot chick naked a lot more cause daaaaaaaamn). Also I thought the criminals in the movie were incredibly stupid. I mean if I see 20 of my buddies get their asses handed to them without so much as laying a finger on their opponent I'm pretty much turning and running. Instead these guys seem to be waiting in line for their turn to get pummeled. Sometimes even "cutting" in line. (hehe you know the scene with the cutting) Which is why I'm glad I'm desensitized to violence. Cause there was a lot of it. Meh

That's my disjointed random review.

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Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:42 AM

LOL on the taking turns getting beaten up

oh and check this out
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Now there's a shipping error:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
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Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:50 AM

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
Too flustered thinking of glowing, blue penis to make a comment huh?

Lol yeah something like that. I actually really hated the movie, which I totally didn't expect. I got up early on Saturday to go to a 10am showing, so the hubby and I could see it without the crowds, but by 11:30 (half way through!) we were actually considering sneaking out of the movie, going to get lunch, and catching a 12:30 showing of something better at the dollar theater on the other side of town, lol.

Generally I don't mind nudity or violence, especially in movies like this that know their audience and play to it. 300, for instance. I thought the violence was cinematic and fun, and the nudity was beautiful and artistic and true to the story.

But Watchmen? I don't know what went right for the director with 300 and so horribly wrong with Watchmen, but I really wish they'd made it PG-13 instead and just cut out all the nudity and violence.

Part of the problem was that I found the story horrifically boring. The plot plodded along, I had no reason to care about any of the characters much less like them, and there was absolutely no sense of cinematic "wow". Just dull, the whole time. With random nudity. For three hours. In one scene I was actually so bored I found myself not listening to anything that was going on, and rather wondering if Dr. Manhatten was circumsized, and if so if that was true to the character. Seriously. No movie should ever put you through that.

I also found the sex scenes to be really uncomfortable and just gross. Again I'm going to have to watch 300 again soon just to get all that grossness out of my head. And what was up with the couch scene? What the fuck was that?? And the violence actually managed to be worse than the sex scenes. The sequence with the dog, and the sequence with the jail cell door made me want to go watch Sin City or something. But I'll probably stick with 300, heh. ;)

I was totally excited to see the movie too, and I'm just annoyed that I had to sit through three hours of gross pointlessness to get over that excitement. I actually know the guy who did the production design for the movie (worked with him a few years back), and one of the guys who did some of the "motion comics" that were up on iTunes last fall, advertising for the movie. I saw a rough cut of one of the motion comics (corresponds to the first entry from Rorschach's journal in the movie) last summer and thought it looked awesome. So I was totally jazzed to see the movie. And then it sucked royally.

On the bright side, I did like the production design, lol. It was a pretty movie, just with nothing behind it. But I tend to be a fan of that guy's work no matter what he does (he also did Minority Report, Fight Club, The Crow, Corpse Bride, a bunch others -- all very visually awesome movies IMO). And I haven't gotten to talk to my friend who did the motion comics yet to see what he thought of the movie.

My husband and I hated it so much that I warned some of my family members (who are more touchy about violence and nudity than I am) off of it. But then the hubby talked to some people at the office who really loved it, so now I'm a bit cautious about saying I hated it as much as I did, heh.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:07 AM

I think the couch scene was intentionally awkward. I'm almost thinking the guy was supposed to be virgin and we're getting that he had no idea what to do now that he got what he wanted.

I did sort of care about the characters. I cared more about how they got where they were at in the movie. One point I couldn't really figure out was whether they had super powers or not. Sometimes I was like "ok they have to". Other times I was like they seem pretty normal with just like a touch of over the top ability. Obviously not including Dr. Manhattan.

I don't see how it can be considered a great movie, but I don't think it was bad either. I guess maybe I get the feeling that if I had super powers I'd fit in pretty well with this group. I don't think I'd be very forgiving.

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Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:35 AM

Ok wait... something bad happens to a dog????? This was not mentioned. Don't tell me what happens just yes or no does the dog get hurt? If so what scene preceeds it so I can leave the theatre for that part ( I want to see the movie, but can't possibly watch something bad happen to a doggie... it's bad enough when I'm normal , but with all the pregnancy hormones I might be traumatized for days...)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:41 AM

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Hmm, I actually don't remember what the fate of the dog -- dogs, really, I think there are two or three of them -- are. I remember what happens to their owner, but not the dogs. It was the rest of the scene that they're in that bothered me. I was trying to pick on something that someone who had seen the movie would recognize but that wouldn't be a spoiler for those who haven't seen it. Zeek might be able to tell you what happens to the dogs, I honestly don't remember.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:46 AM

ok as long as nothing horrible and graphic happens to the dogs I'm ok... not overly disturbed if bad things happen to people, just kids and dogs.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:46 AM

I think CK means what the dogs are doing. The dogs are the bad guys not the other way around.

Edit: oh she was just bringing up the scene. Don't worry about the dogs anyway.

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