Vote for Firefly (A bit of trouble with the reentry sequence) XIX by FlatTop

The Monday AM "new numbers" are immaterial, as they have nothing to do with the cummulative totals (which only changes when people actually vote.)

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Friday, May 8, 2009 7:37 AM

Just Scraping By

We gained 118 votes on Jericho in the last seven days.

From the TVTally "Top 25 Shows" overall score page ( http://www.tvtally.com/shows/overalltop.php?top=25),

Date Gain Jericho Firefly Votes Behind
……….…….…Daily Votes
5/1…...23….763.....…786..……..557
5/2.….-18….169.....…151..……..575
5/3..….-4…..111.....…107..……..579
5/4.…107….110.....…217..……..472
5/5..….25….165.....…190..……..447
5/6..….15….164.....…179..……..432
5/7..….-9…..408.....…399..……..441
5/8..…..2…..390.....…392..……..439

We gained 198 votes on Jericho in the week ending May 4 (195 the previous week). Overall the total vote at the beginning of the week is Jericho 64,402 (59,601 last week), Firefly 63,930 (58,931 last week). In January, we were over 2,000 votes behind. But a year ago, we were ahead. Over the last few months, we have been closing the gap.
If you turn off cookies on your browser, when you go to TVTally, you can vote up to three (used to be six) times (and for more than one show, or all for one show). You can also vote more than once in six hours (unpredictable, tends to happen early in the day, and after 6 PM). Some consider this cheating, some don't. Either you're a cookie monster, or you ain't.

At Stargate ( http://stargate-news.com/sci-fi-poll-best-in-science-fiction.html) we are at 42.2 (41.9 yesterday) percent today, and 1309 votes, for the best SciFi movie. Vote for Firefly as well as Serenity (where we have 26.3 percent of the vote and Red Dwarf has 23, versus 26.3 and 22.9 yesterday).

At BBC ( http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6517155.stm) today we are; Serenity 42.62% Star Wars 29.24% Blade Runner 16.96% Planet of the Apes 1.80% The Matrix 9.38% 43055 Votes Cast

In the last 24 hours there were FIVE votes. Ugh

Back on September 5th it was Serenity 39.53% Star Wars 30.83% Blade Runner 17.87% Planet of the Apes 1.90% The Matrix 9.87% , with 40635 Votes Cast

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Friday, May 8, 2009 10:35 AM

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Friday, May 8, 2009 9:12 PM

1. Jericho 1937
2. Firefly 1800

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Saturday, May 9, 2009 3:20 AM

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Saturday, May 9, 2009 3:37 AM

1. Jericho 2048
2. Firefly 1874

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Saturday, May 9, 2009 5:36 AM

Jericho 2125 20.68%
Firefly 1984 19.31%

"Well, here I am."

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Saturday, May 9, 2009 7:26 AM

Booyah!

We gained 200 votes on Jericho in the last seven days.

From the TVTally "Top 25 Shows" overall score page ( http://www.tvtally.com/shows/overalltop.php?top=25),

Date Gain Jericho Firefly Votes Behind
……….…….…Daily Votes
5/2.….-18….169.....…151..……..575
5/3..….-4…..111.....…107..……..579
5/4.…107….110.....…217..……..472
5/5..….25….165.....…190..……..447
5/6..….15….164.....…179..……..432
5/7..….-9…..408.....…399..……..441
5/8..…..2…..390.....…392..……..439
5/9.….64…..555.....…619..……..375

We gained 198 votes on Jericho in the week ending May 4 (195 the previous week). Overall the total vote at the beginning of the week is Jericho 64,402 (59,601 last week), Firefly 63,930 (58,931 last week). In January, we were over 2,000 votes behind. But a year ago, we were ahead. Over the last few months, we have been closing the gap.
If you turn off cookies on your browser, when you go to TVTally, you can vote up to three (used to be six) times (and for more than one show, or all for one show). You can also vote more than once in six hours (unpredictable, tends to happen early in the day, and after 6 PM). Some consider this cheating, some don't. Either you're a cookie monster, or you ain't.

At Stargate ( http://stargate-news.com/sci-fi-poll-best-in-science-fiction.html) we are at 42.5 (42.2 yesterday) percent today, and 1325 votes, for the best SciFi movie. Vote for Firefly as well as Serenity (where we have 26.3 percent of the vote and Red Dwarf has 23, versus 26.3 and 23 yesterday).

At BBC ( http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6517155.stm) today we are; Serenity 42.63% Star Wars 29.23% Blade Runner 16.95% Planet of the Apes 1.80% The Matrix 9.38% 43063 Votes Cast

In the last 24 hours there were EIGHT votes. Getting a little better

Back on September 5th it was Serenity 39.53% Star Wars 30.83% Blade Runner 17.87% Planet of the Apes 1.90% The Matrix 9.87% , with 40635 Votes Cast

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Saturday, May 9, 2009 1:46 PM

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Saturday, May 9, 2009 10:45 PM

1. Jericho 3013
2. Firefly 2394

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Saturday, May 9, 2009 11:16 PM

They're pulling way ahead of us vump, but I'm beginning to not care any more. The tvtally site is obviously corrupt where at least one person has found a way to cheat. I am beginning to wonder why I even bother.

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Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:55 AM

KC5F

Quote:
Originally posted by rallem:
They're pulling way ahead of us vump, but I'm beginning to not care any more. The tvtally site is obviously corrupt where at least one person has found a way to cheat. I am beginning to wonder why I even bother.

I've got to agree. The funniest thing is reading the Jericho board posts and their protests that Jericho fans would never cheat, when they're down, but cheering on the jumps of hundreds of votes at a time when they're pulling ahead.

I've never watched Jericho, but maybe cheating and delusion is an integral part of the heroes' mentality on that show. Love is what keeps Browncoats flying. Well, that and the money!

(By the way, keep voting at the Best Sfi Fi TV program site. I'd rather have a good show like Red Dwarf catching up with us than Jericho, but still, Firefly is the best!)

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Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:56 AM

Because browncoats never give up.

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Sunday, May 10, 2009 5:15 AM

Well, they just couldn't resist. A few stray attempts at 30-60 vote runs during the week, but Jericho couldn't stand losing at real votes. Had to cheat to jump ahead again to think they were really winning, whether by using an autovoter like they've been caught doing in the past, or just using proxies to change IP addresses and keep voting. Why should we vote when they're just going to cheat and jump ahead whenever they want?

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Sunday, May 10, 2009 5:28 AM

The winner in this race will be the ones who don't give up.

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Sunday, May 10, 2009 5:51 AM

Jericho 3380 27.34%
Firefly 2574 20.82%

How is this possible?

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Sunday, May 10, 2009 6:16 AM

KC5F

Quote:
Originally posted by Suasor:
The winner in this race will be the ones who don't give up.

Maybe, but that autovoter FireflyTitan mentions sure helps their side!

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Sunday, May 10, 2009 7:24 AM

Hey, Where'd Our Cheat Champion Go?

We gained -564 votes on Jericho in the last seven days.

From the TVTally "Top 25 Shows" overall score page ( http://www.tvtally.com/shows/overalltop.php?top=25),

Date Gain Jericho Firefly Votes Behind
……….…….…Daily Votes
5/2.….-18….169.....…151..……..575
5/3..….-4…..111.....…107..……..579
5/4.…107….110.....…217..……..472
5/5..….25….165.....…190..……..447
5/6..….15….164.....…179..……..432
5/7..….-9…..408.....…399..……..441
5/8..…..2…..390.....…392..……..439
5/9.….64…..555.....…619..……..375
5/10.-768…1084.....…316.…….1143

We gained 198 votes on Jericho in the week ending May 4 (195 the previous week). Overall the total vote at the beginning of the week is Jericho 64,402 (59,601 last week), Firefly 63,930 (58,931 last week). In January, we were over 2,000 votes behind. But a year ago, we were ahead. Over the last few months, we have been closing the gap.
If you turn off cookies on your browser, when you go to TVTally, you can vote up to three (used to be six) times (and for more than one show, or all for one show). You can also vote more than once in six hours (unpredictable, tends to happen early in the day, and after 6 PM). Some consider this cheating, some don't. Either you're a cookie monster, or you ain't.

At Stargate ( http://stargate-news.com/sci-fi-poll-best-in-science-fiction.html) we are at 42.7 (42.5 yesterday) percent today, and 1333 votes, for the best SciFi movie. Vote for Firefly as well as Serenity (where we have 26.3 percent of the vote and Red Dwarf has 23, versus 26.3 and 23 yesterday).

At BBC ( http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6517155.stm) today we are; Serenity 42.64% Star Wars 29.23% Blade Runner 16.95% Planet of the Apes 1.80% The Matrix 9.38% 43068 Votes Cast

In the last 24 hours there were FIVE votes. Yuck

Back on September 5th it was Serenity 39.53% Star Wars 30.83% Blade Runner 17.87% Planet of the Apes 1.90% The Matrix 9.87% , with 40635 Votes Cast

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Sunday, May 10, 2009 5:04 PM

Jericho 3928 30.08%
Firefly 2597 19.89%

1400 behind?

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Sunday, May 10, 2009 9:09 PM

1. Jericho 549
2. Miracles 320

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Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:53 PM

vump. Is anyone else havig a hard time getting onto stargate news?

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Monday, May 11, 2009 4:03 AM

626 Jericho
411 FIREFLY

A good start.

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Monday, May 11, 2009 6:56 AM

STARTROOP

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Monday, May 11, 2009 7:15 AM

Apparently there was some problem getting into Stargate News in the last 24 hours, because there were fewer (but still some) votes entered in that period. I had no problem getting in just now.

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Monday, May 11, 2009 7:17 AM

OK, Who Knows How The Cheat Works? After All, What Would Mal Do?

We lost 1048 votes on Jericho in the last seven days.

From the TVTally "Top 25 Shows" overall score page ( http://www.tvtally.com/shows/overalltop.php?top=25),

Date Gain Jericho Firefly Votes Behind
……….…….…Daily Votes
5/3..….-4…..111.....…107..……..579
5/4.…107….110.....…217..……..472
5/5..….25….165.....…190..……..447
5/6..….15….164.....…179..……..432
5/7..….-9…..408.....…399..……..441
5/8..…..2…..390.....…392..……..439
5/9.….64…..555.....…619..……..375
5/10.-768…1084.....…316.…….1143
5/11.-377.….679.....…302.…….1520

We gained -1,048 votes on Jericho in the week ending May 11 (198 the previous week). Overall the total vote at the beginning of the week is Jericho 67,847 (64,402 last week), Firefly 66,327 (63,930 last week). In January, we were over 2,000 votes behind. But a year ago, we were ahead. Over the last few months, we have been closing the gap.
If you turn off cookies on your browser, when you go to TVTally, you can vote up to three (used to be six) times (and for more than one show, or all for one show). You can also vote more than once in six hours (unpredictable, tends to happen early in the day, and after 6 PM). Some consider this cheating, some don't. Either you're a cookie monster, or you ain't.

At Stargate ( http://stargate-news.com/sci-fi-poll-best-in-science-fiction.html) we are at 42.7 (42.7 yesterday) percent today, and 1335 votes, for the best SciFi movie. Vote for Firefly as well as Serenity (where we have 26.3 percent of the vote and Red Dwarf has 23, versus 26.3 and 23 yesterday).

At BBC ( http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6517155.stm) today we are; Serenity 42.65% Star Wars 29.23% Blade Runner 16.95% Planet of the Apes 1.80% The Matrix 9.37% 43074 Votes Cast

In the last 24 hours there were SIX votes. Meh

Back on September 5th it was Serenity 39.53% Star Wars 30.83% Blade Runner 17.87% Planet of the Apes 1.90% The Matrix 9.87% , with 40635 Votes Cast

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Monday, May 11, 2009 8:06 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Suasor:
Who Knows How The Cheat Works?

I don't even know how the original autovote program worked, but it's more than just clearing cookies and voting again. There has to be a way to fool the site into thinking it's coming from a new IP address. There are lots of proxy sites out there, but the regular way the votes go up when they've got it running going up one vote at a time instead of three says it's not just someone browsing through any list of proxy sites...

Quote:
What Would Mal Do?

In Heart of Gold he gave a bunch of "working ladies" guns and sacrificed a few of them to beat Rance's high-tech gun. More than once with the Reavers he just crossed his fingers that they wouldn't notice him. And with the Alliance he'd moon 'em. I don't recall him ever buying a bigger gun to equal the firepower.

But he also didn't work alone, and I sure can't keep up with an autovoter by myself. I've got a life, unlike some of the Jericho voters...

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Monday, May 11, 2009 11:57 AM

STARTROOP

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Monday, May 11, 2009 1:00 PM

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Monday, May 11, 2009 9:25 PM

1. Jericho 1302
2. Firefly 885

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Monday, May 11, 2009 11:51 PM

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:55 AM

There are several ways to create an autovoter. I've heard of guys renting a botnet (very illegal and not recommended, even for browncoats) and using a script to have each zombie PC vote every six hours. The proxy address would work the same way, but I believe the sites that provide free proxy addresses would be on the watch for that, as they mainly provide a service for individuals wanting to surf the net anonymously. There's also the possibility that someone hacked the TVTally site.

Lastly, the Jericho fans may have a message board where they have a lot of fans who can be mobilized in an emergency. But that seems unlikely, as it would be discussed openly.

Speaking of that, do you have the URL for Jericho fan site messageboards? I'm also short on time, but I can go over and check the message traffic for clues. It's hard to keep these things secret, and the solution may be buried in their message traffic.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Suasor:
...do you have the URL for Jericho fan site messageboards?

The active one: http://boards.nbcuni.com/universalHD/index.php?showtopic=1363&st=9999

But even here there are only 8 or 10 who are regulars. Sort of like here...

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:52 AM

1520 Jericho
1251 FIREFLY

Weird numbers

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:46 AM

I only found one other fan site; http://www.jerichonet2.com

And they appear to have over 150 active users, but not much regular TVTally vote chatter.

There is no notice, much less discussion, of where all there votes ate coming from, at their

boards.nbcuni.com/universalHD/index.php?showtopic=1363&st=2140

site. If the autovoter is hanging out anywhere, it must be somewhere else. Usually, these guys like to get at least a little recognition for their efforts. But first we have to find where he, or she, hangs out.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:37 AM

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:11 AM

Sometimes it just feels good to whup some butt and then moon 'em!

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:22 AM

Our Mystery Champion Saved Our Butts
(Fireflytitan, are you the masked man?)

We are down 916 votes to Jericho in the last seven days.

From the TVTally "Top 25 Shows" overall score page ( http://www.tvtally.com/shows/overalltop.php?top=25),

Date Gain Jericho Firefly Votes Behind
……….…….…Daily Votes
5/5..….25….165.....…190..……..447
5/6..….15….164.....…179..……..432
5/7..….-9…..408.....…399..……..441
5/8..…..2…..390.....…392..……..439
5/9.….64…..555.....…619..……..375
5/10.-768…1084.....…316.…….1143
5/11.-377.….679.....…302.…….1520
5/12..157.….927...…1084.…….1363

We gained -1,048 votes on Jericho in the week ending May 11 (198 the previous week). Overall the total vote at the beginning of the week is Jericho 67,847 (64,402 last week), Firefly 66,327 (63,930 last week). In January, we were over 2,000 votes behind. But a year ago, we were ahead. Over the last few months, we have been closing the gap.
If you turn off cookies on your browser, when you go to TVTally, you can vote up to three (used to be six) times (and for more than one show, or all for one show). You can also vote more than once in six hours (unpredictable, tends to happen early in the day, and after 6 PM). Some consider this cheating, some don't. Either you're a cookie monster, or you ain't.

At Stargate ( http://stargate-news.com/sci-fi-poll-best-in-science-fiction.html) we are at 42.8 (42.7 yesterday) percent today, and 1339 votes, for the best SciFi movie. Vote for Firefly as well as Serenity (where we have 26.3 percent of the vote and Red Dwarf has 23.1, versus 26.3 and 23 yesterday).

At BBC ( http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6517155.stm) today we are; Serenity 42.66% Star Wars 29.22% Blade Runner 16.95% Planet of the Apes 1.80% The Matrix 9.37% 43084 Votes Cast

In the last 24 hours there were 10 votes. Better

Back on September 5th it was Serenity 39.53% Star Wars 30.83% Blade Runner 17.87% Planet of the Apes 1.90% The Matrix 9.87% , with 40635 Votes Cast

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:38 AM

Hey, you're the one that gave me the idea for the screen name with your "Duel Of The Titans" comment!

I know they'll be back, but I just got tired of them jumping ahead. I feel like John Henry against the steam engine, though, fighting alone with just a standard browser with cookies enabled and no scripts.

I've already mentioned my "secrets" several times, and welcome anyone who wants to help out. Conversely, if folks want me to back off, that's cool, too.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:56 AM

Heh, I thought the Titan thing was just a coincidence.

Exactly how do you get us our bounce? I'm willing to try it, in reponse to Jericho use of such uncivilized behavior.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:28 AM

I actually answered that question when you asked it on on Monday. Works for me, but doesn't look like what they're routinely doing. And of course, right now they're crying that somebody's cheating. Didn't happen, of course, when they ran up a couple thousand votes from Saturday night to Monday morning...

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:28 AM

I can't finf the "how to" message. Could you post it again?

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:20 PM

It was the reply to your Monday totals post, when you asked if anyone knew how to cheat. The gist is that the site has to think your IP address hasn't voted in six hours. The Jericho folks have talked about clearing cookies and voting again, but I've never tried that. The fastest way I know is to use a proxy site - each one has a different IP address and there are a lot you can go through once every six hours. The downside is that with Jericho fans apparently doing the same thins and many sites going to the same "real" address you often vote without any change in totals. That and the popups, but use a good browser and that's not a problem. With practice you can run quite a few at a time.

(If you're watching the Jericho board, it's pretty funny. Now they're accusing me of running up the Jericho votes to make them look bad. Maybe it really is someone they don't know, but the timing sure fits when two or three of them are on. I can watch their votes run up by 30-40 and within a few minutes one of them posts that they're "voting around"...)

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:27 PM

2037 Jericho
2000 FIREFLY

"I call it Vera."

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:04 PM

OK. bear with me, as I've not done this before. Which proxy server do you use and how do you set it up?

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:12 PM

KRALIZEC

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:25 PM

2295 Jericho
2226 FIREFLY

Rolling into a tight orbit. Hilass convergence.

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Wednesday, May 13, 2009 2:55 AM