Imponderables: Suiting Up For Some Fun by nvghostrider

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Memorial Day

BUMP

Get out and thank a vet. Enjoy each free breath today on them.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, May 25, 2009 11:30 AM

wow, hat trick NV XD

went to Lime Rock (race track

) today for the memorial day race, military gets in free today so me the bf and bf's bro went, ran into a few others from their shop as well. lotsa loud cars, lotsa fast racing, lotsa spinning out XD and 'chirping' tires, lotsa non-racing cars that were $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ (like the lotus elise, ferraris, a sole lambo, some aston martins, an austin healy, and a bunch of others that i would need the bf to name for me, lol) in the parking lot. long day, fun day, little sun burned, but it's all good. hope everyone had a great memorial day and thanks to all the vets out there.

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Tuesday, May 26, 2009 5:52 AM

Ponder:

As a male/Female member of American culture, what do you feel is one of the biggest threats facing our next generation?

I have a TON of ideas on this one. Just wondering what y'all think.

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Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:11 AM

KELKHIL

the lack of financial responsibility...

Can't pay your bills... no problem, let the Gov'ment bail ya out!

I honestly think they shoudl re-instate the debter's prisons for some of these shady people. At least that is some of my tax monies I can agree was spent well...

Zombie Killing, Ninja in Training Kelkhil
The Shirtless Forsaken

Member of the Coalition for the return of HK - Evil Geniuses are needed for a Better Tomorrow.

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Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:52 AM

I'll go with Kelkhil but add just a general lack of responsibility and a lack of seeing the long term effects and consequences of behavior. I'd say all generations faced this to some degree, but the problem , as I see it , comes from the fact that this new generation is being raised ( more so than any other generation) in single parent, young mother households where there is little time or energy left for the actual raising. This leaves the schools and daycares to try and instill values, work ethic, and responsibility in the kids. Not that these places aren't trying, but every step of the way they seem to be undermined by short sighted parents who are exhausted and done in by the earning of money enough to feed and put a roof over the kids and who will give in and give the kid anything they want so as to get some peace. This negates all they are taught about delaying gratification and earning what you get. It also further enhances the sense of entitlement that has spread so pervasively. I'm entitled to money, compensation, royal treatment, etc... just because.

I've recently seen several girls who were under 18 pregnant and totally nonchalant about it becuase they can get housing assistance, WIC, food stamps, and welfare so it's no big. Or even older women who chose to go wtih assistance instead of jobs because it's easier and why work?
Hey I'd love to stay home with the baby, but we have bills and a house and all so I'm headed to work... just how it is. I just can't fathom giving your kids a life of poverty not because you work really hard, but don't make much, but because you'd rather take handouts and sit on your butt than get up and work to give your kids a good life.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:03 AM

I had to steady my hand over the subject this morning. Funny because the reasons behind a client argument were exactly what both of you had stated.

We are bound to be outnumbered.

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Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:23 AM

Well eventually being outnumbered will cause a crumble since the ratio of working to non working has to be 2:1 or more to support it.. soon it'll be the rapid decrease of benefits and once again,as always, the kids suffer for the adults failures

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:10 AM

cant really disagree on any particular point mentioned above.

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Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:17 AM

ZEROKIRYU

I blame the media.

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Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:43 AM

LOL Zero... see I was blaming Canada

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:55 AM

I think MsA nailed it with the sense of entitlement. I know far too many people who just think that they deserve money or even a good paying job. I know a guy recently who took 6 years to graduate and had the bare minimum of C's to graduate after retaking many courses and he's shocked that employers aren't throwing job offers at him. What makes so many people think that they don't need to put effort into anything these days? One of my friends told me a bunch of her friends said "I wish I knew this recession was coming because I would have saved then.". Um you save for the unknown. What's wrong with those people?

Though I really think this is an American attitude and not pervasive across the globe. I'm pretty sure China and India are raising a generation of people who are go getters. Which means our economic outlooks is going to stay low for years to come. Which is just swell when you think of how badly our bailouts are selling out the future of this country. Argh!

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Wednesday, May 27, 2009 7:14 AM

Of course it didn't help as much as intended, but our good President offered more money to people on unemployment. On one side I know people who are out of the job market because of disability or lack of jobs near to their field of study/skill set. On the other hand I know people who should swallow their pride for fast food jobs and the like to support their families. It feels like we've reverted to the old manual crank start method to start our hybrid cars.

What's funny is the positive impact on people who have a lack of education and legal citizenship. People on the Reservation are thriving despite the number of manual labor jobs still open to those who are on unemployment. I think I've seen more people here working than ever before. And the yard care companies in town that hire illegals are doing very well for themselves.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

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Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:58 AM

Somehow over time the " can do " attitude has been replaced with "why should I have to do it"

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:22 AM

At the same time everyone seems to think that someone else should have to work hard. They have no problem with everyone else having to pay taxes but the second they have to pay taxes themselves it's awful. Some people are just annoying.

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Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:38 AM

Do the Thursday bump!

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Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:22 AM

I'd like to but I'm sure people are watching.

Wow, nothing much to be excited about. I don't have any plans for the weekend.

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Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:34 AM

Hiding ain't a plan?

Well somebody had to say it.

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Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:38 AM

Funny you said that Zeek. I've been doing a lot of that lately. So much that it has put a strain on relationships I have with other people. I had to do it. Am I sorry? Yeah. But then again most prople have no clue why I was hiding.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

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Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:12 AM

I'm sure a paintball game will turn up.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:43 AM

I offered to help my bud John finish some drywall in his house. Its cool because once he gets it done most of his house will be done. He is in the same spot I was; cabin feaver due to being isolated in one room for most everything. Now that they've split the house and built a few rooms his whole family is much happier.

I've been working on markers so much that I almost feel like there is nothing to do but to work on them. Seems like I need to just paint a lot of people to make myself happy.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

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Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:37 AM

PAINTBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that would be an awesome stress reliever/anti-boredom activity right now.

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Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:58 PM

yay time for home...

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
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Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:39 PM

NVG here:

Watching Spaceballs and drinking some beers.

Life is good.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Friday, May 29, 2009 5:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by MsA:
NVG here:

Watching Spaceballs and drinking some beers.

Life is good.

That sounds 1000 times more fun than working. Though I think you posted it last night. Still reading it now I'm totally jealous.

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Friday, May 29, 2009 7:42 AM

Yeah he was dong that last night.. this morning we had an appointment and now he's on his way to work...

I'm sulking 'cause my doc wouldn't authorize the ultrasound yet. Wants Peanut more developed so he can check kidneys and brain function and stuff...yeah yeah.. I just wanna know boy or girl.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Friday, May 29, 2009 8:20 AM

You don't want a surprise? I'd totally want a surprise.

Though in the end I can make a case for either. I think a baby girl would be fun. Mainly cause I know I'd be one of those Dad's who gives Daddy's little girl anything she wants. The problem there is once they hit like 14 I'd need to go into like super spy mode to try to keep raging hormone guys away from my little girl. So, at that point I'd rather have a boy and just let him go annoy other Dads

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Friday, May 29, 2009 8:53 AM

Dong?

I like that way of seeing it Zeek. Make my kid someone elses problem. Allah forbid I sick the dog or older cousin(s) on someones little boy.

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-Loretta Lynn

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Friday, May 29, 2009 9:49 AM

No surprise... no baby needs to spend the first 3 months wearing green and yellow. Plus I just can't wait to know

Cheered up some... got lunch and I feel better:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Friday, May 29, 2009 11:45 AM

i like that mode of thinking MsA XD but at the same time i wouldnt want my girl wearing all pink or my boy wearing all blue, which is what sometimes tends to happen ><;; maybe thats why its hard for me to buy baby clothes for people....

my cousin (in-law-ish) just got her ultrasound, havin a little girl ^_^ naming her Maya, so she's gonna be Maya Martin, which means im gonna be callin her M&M XD have to.

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Friday, May 29, 2009 12:05 PM

Pssh all kids look good in red. It's gender neutral and awesome. Hmmm...I'm thinking peanut needs a tiny red baby suit so he/she can suit up!

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Friday, May 29, 2009 12:09 PM

LOL maybe a union suit with the little trap door in the back....

Yeah red's always cute... but dress, top with lace...or plaid shirt and little jeans. See it's not just color but outfit.

Mostly I just really really wanted to know and had gotten myself all psyched... but is ok. as we will just do it later:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Friday, May 29, 2009 3:46 PM

just promise me, if its a girl, that u wont dress her in a sailor suit or velcro a bow to her head if she has little hair. (i dont know what possessed my mother to VELCRO a bow to my head. i really dont) :P

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Friday, May 29, 2009 5:13 PM

LEOPARDFLAN

MSA, you're having a BABY?! CONGRATZ!!!!!

Yes, I am back, and for good this time- Summer's here, no grades, therefore I technically can't be grounded for grades! Haha! -dances in victory-

I would have been on sooner, but I had to go see my cousin's graduation -tear-, then I got hauled off to my grandparent's here in MI (and I love it here!

), and they've just now set up the laptop for me (I've spent the last couple of hours checking my email... O.o)

But yeah... IT'S GREAT TO BE BACK!!!

-glomps everyone-

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Friday, May 29, 2009 5:56 PM

*returns glomp*

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Friday, May 29, 2009 5:58 PM

LEOPARDFLAN

Hehe ^.^

Now I know what glee feels like... ^.^ ^.^

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Sunday, May 31, 2009 5:39 AM

Sounds very happy for you

And thanks we're pretty happy about it:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Sunday, May 31, 2009 7:50 AM

LEOPARDFLAN

As you should be! I can't wait to see him/her ^.^

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Sunday, May 31, 2009 10:01 AM

Well we will know by June 18th boy or girl ( so long as Peanut cooperates during the ultrasound) ... we are calling the baby Peanut until we know gender so we don't say it.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, June 1, 2009 5:21 AM

Welcome back LF it seems like it's been a loooooong time.

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Monday, June 1, 2009 6:19 AM

I began to think back on past ponders and how some of my answers have changed in the past few years. I've only been a member of this forum for three and a half years. In the six months prior I had done considerable lurking and found this to be the most appropriate forum for me.

In that time many people have came and gone. In some cases it was better for them to leave than to stay. In other cases, let's just say that they should have stayed while others rightly should have left.

What I'm getting at is the ponder of where this is all going. Similar to stating "Where is this going" during a romantic relationship, this seems to be a hard thing to ask and an even harder thing to answer.

So for anyone who has been here for a year or so, what do you think?

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-Loretta Lynn

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Monday, June 1, 2009 6:33 AM

I'm really hoping this is like a family where people have times when they are very here and times when they back away, but that everyone returns to the family and we all end up on here pondering about liver spots and old age meds:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, June 1, 2009 7:12 AM

Uh oh NVG wants to break up with us. This is his "we need to talk" post.

Well to me this is the support group for when something crazy is going on in life and we need a place to bounce things off of someone. And when no one has something to bounce ideas around about then it's just a random chatter place.

I'm also eternally optimistic that some of our missing members will return someday.

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Monday, June 1, 2009 8:03 AM

WASHNWEAR

Browncoats...do the bumpty-bump...yeah, watch us do the bumpty-bump...

donttalkbackjustdrivethecarshutyourmouthiknowwhatyouaredontsaynothinkeepyourhandsonthewheeldontturnaroundthisisforreal

Still...what would Rorschach do?

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Monday, June 1, 2009 8:08 AM

HUSG I'm glad you're optimistic too Zeek

I think NV's responding to my chatterboxing last night about the bar and how I'm worried that some monopolization be some is driving off a lot of others...

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, June 1, 2009 8:35 AM

I am actually just going back and wondering what happened. There are a lot of stories and MANY people have passed through this forum.

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Monday, June 1, 2009 8:42 AM

KELKHIL

Quote:
Originally posted by MsA:

I think NV's responding to my chatterboxing last night about the bar and how I'm worried that some monopolization be some is driving off a lot of others...

here here. You are a wise woman MSA! I grow weary as well

So my ponderer is how do we fix what's broke?

<.<

>.>

(I was never here!)

Zombie Killing, Ninja in Training Kelkhil
The Shirtless Forsaken

Member of the Coalition for the return of HK - Evil Geniuses are needed for a Better Tomorrow.

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Monday, June 1, 2009 8:46 AM

Well my plan is to suggest that we all ignore and don't respond to the monopolizer and go back to just chatting 'mongst ourselves...

I'd elaborate, but I'm being kicked in the bladder and have to go...

NV

( plus we might just threaten to shave Tristan bald if he doesn't start posting again ...same for HK and a few others)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, June 1, 2009 9:23 AM

RUGBUG

Quote:
Originally posted by MsA:
I'm really hoping this is like a family where people have times when they are very here and times when they back away, but that everyone returns to the family and we all end up on here pondering about liver spots and old age meds:)

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
I'm also eternally optimistic that some of our missing members will return someday.

Well, as long as the board remembers my password, I'll be around from time to time. :D

So, how are folks?

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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

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Monday, June 1, 2009 9:36 AM