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Ratings for "Safe"

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Saturday, November 9, 2002 11:30 AM

INVISIBLEGREEN


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LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - Fast National ratings for Friday, Nov. 8, 2002

If it's Friday, it must mean NBC is the Nielsen winner on TV, as it has been for pretty much every week this season.

NBC averaged a 9.4 rating/17 share in primetime, more than three ratings points ahead of second-place CBS, 6.0/11. ABC was third at 5.0/9, with FOX trailing at 3.5/6.

Among adults 18-49, NBC led with a 4.2 rating, followed by ABC, 2.9, FOX, 2.7, and CBS, 2.2.

"Providence" started the night for NBC with an 8.0/14. CBS took second with "48 Hours Investigates," 6.7/12. "America's Funniest Home Videos" on ABC was third, with FOX's "Firefly" bringing up the rear at 2.9/5.

At 9 p.m., "Dateline" kept NBC in first place, while CBS stayed in second with "Hack," 6.7/12. FOX moved up to third with "John Doe," 4.1/7. "The Drew Carey Show" on ABC struggled in its Friday debut. Back-to-back episodes averaged 3.5/6.

NBC capped the night with "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit," 11.6/21. ABC's "20/20" 5.8/10, took second over CBS' "Robbery Homicide Division," 4.7/9.



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Saturday, November 9, 2002 11:52 AM

HAKEN

Likes to mess with stuffs.


One thing is certain, John Doe is doing really well, and depending on how you look at it, it isn't good news for Firefly.

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Saturday, November 9, 2002 12:12 PM

INVISIBLEGREEN


I'm not too worried, because I'm certain that FOX will at least try a different timeslot before canceling Firefly, which could cause the ratings to increase dramatically.

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Saturday, November 9, 2002 3:43 PM

DELVO


HOW IN THE WORLD can John Doe still be on the air at all, nevermind actually doing fairly well?

I'm not an acting snob or anything like that, I seldom even notice supposedly bad acting at all, so easily do I accept the characters I'm shown... but gewd gawd it's bad on JD!

And the plots and character interactions are some the most horribly contrived, irrational, never-in-a-million-years nonsensical tripe I've ever seen.

Worst of all, it's supposed to be a show about a really smart guy, and supposed to be smarter TV than a lot of other shows are meant to be, but is written by people who aren't smart enough to get their "I'm really smart" stereotypical high-speed often-pointless big-words-just-for-the-sake-of-extra-syllables babble-streams right; they come out WRONG a bare minimum of half a dozen times per episode (that I can personally catch)!

John Doe makes my brain cells scream in agony almost as loud as they did when Yahoo Serious as "Young Einstein" explained how E=mc^2 was the formula for splitting the beer atom. Maybe if I whack my head on the TV enough while watching, I'll understand this stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid show... but whacking the power button just once is easier...

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Saturday, November 9, 2002 5:35 PM

MALCOLM


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Originally posted by Haken:
One thing is certain, John Doe is doing really well, and depending on how you look at it, it isn't good news for Firefly.



I'm not so sure about that. Perhaps, Fox isn't as likely to mess with Firefly if John Doe does well, because, uh, if it ain't broke, you don't fix it..." I know our friend, Marc Berman, at MediaWeek would probably say otherwise.

Fox needs to have a solid two hours of TV on Friday nights and another edition of "Incredible Outtakes from C.O.P.S." won't cut the mustard with the advertisers.

If Firefly continues to hold its core, albeit smallish, audience and JD keeps performing, I'd say FF has a pretty good chance of staying around for the rest of the season. (Touches wood.)

-MBS




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Saturday, November 9, 2002 5:40 PM

PERSEPHONE


Delvo, I totally agree with you about John Doe. It's not really surprising, though, that it's doing so much better than Firefly. People like idiotic tripe, especially idiotic tripe disguised as something clever and intelligent. Joss's shows are kind of the opposite of this, I think. They can look kind of silly; a person has to really watch his shows in order to get how genius they are. That just works against him. I was talking to my sister on the phone yesterday, telling her about Firefly, how it's by the creator of Buffy and it has his trademark humor. She replied, "Oh you mean that dumb, cheesy kind of humor?" If I coulda smacked her through the phone I would have. Joss's humor is anything but dumb. Sometimes it's so clever and subtle it takes a couple of minutes for it to actually sink in. But my sister's a dumbass and unfortunately, I think she represents the majority of people. They never like anything cool and different. That's why so many great shows never have a chance. I'm actually surprised Buffy and Angel lasted so long. And even now, so many people view them as silly, fluffy teenager shows. It just really pisses me off.

Warrick: You didn't have to wound that man.
Mal: Yeah, I know. It was just funny.

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Saturday, November 9, 2002 7:31 PM

JERRY


I'd like to say otherwise, but Firefly's ratings just aren't getting it done. I watch the show every week, and watch John Doe because it's on after it. But the ratings would indicate that showing one of Fox's patented "When Good Pets Go Bad" shows in the timeslot would probably be more profitable.

The anti-quality TV biases of the American public, which are adversely effecting a lot more shows than FF, are really sad.


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