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Loot question

POSTED BY: MIKEWILLIAMSON
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 14:20
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Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:05 PM

So, the Alliance has weird rules on abandonment and salvage, relative to current ones and history.

But, shouldn't Serenity have quite a bit more loot? And accumulated things like the bounty hunter's runabout, stray weapons recovered from opposition, etc.

I mean, pre-emptive archeology is a time honored tradition.

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Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:42 PM

RAHLMACLAREN

"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it." - Jayne Cobb

*squints at the QMX Serenity Preview Blueprints*

Maybe they store more stuff in the walls than we think.

Or maybe in all the boxes in the cargo hold? Plenty of room in there.

Or maybe they have a secret storage unit/garage/shipping container on Persephone.

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Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

They're smugglers and thieves. Not fences. Not a storage facility. They need to offload whatever they get as soon as possible, clear the hold, get rid of incriminating evidence, get cashy money for it. They need to travel light. If they come across something they like, they might do an upgrade, but there is no reason to accumulate stuff. Only keep what they need.
Can't be a pack rat living on a ship.

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Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:58 PM

MIKEWILLIAMSON

Makes sense. Still, that would supplement things nicely.

I remember when I managed a self storage facility. The abandoned wares were quite substantial.

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Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:14 PM

ANONYMOUS1

Quote:
Originally posted by MikeWilliamson:
stray weapons recovered from opposition, etc.

That is how Jayne got Vera.

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Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:21 PM

MIKEWILLIAMSON

Quote:
Originally posted by Anonymous1:
Quote:
Originally posted by MikeWilliamson:
stray weapons recovered from opposition, etc.

That is how Jayne got Vera.

Sure, I just expected to see more. There were a couple of mentions, and I gather they were strapped for time to go into it more than superficially.

It's called precycling
:)

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Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:34 PM

ANONYMOUS1

MikeWilliamson,

Hmmm, Jayne's entire wall of weapons could have been taken from people who tried to kill him.

Got another example. Bushwacked. Whole ghost ship of salvage. Kaylee pulls that engine part out of the ghost ship and it sparks and she says something like Oh, that's a good one. They were pulling parts and taking food from the galley and then Mal and Zoe found the locked vault with the really valuable stuff. Mal said Leave the rest. We take this. ... then River came in.

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Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:39 PM

MIKEWILLIAMSON

Good point. I saw those.

They should be on a derelict or enemy ship like a pack of hyenas on a three legged antelope:)

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Wednesday, July 1, 2009 2:24 AM

ARTCAT81

I'm in agreement with Jewel Staite fan, especially if they are doing planet side and lunar landings and takeoffs, any extra junk they are hauling around burns more fuel in atmo, when you are living on the raggedy edge and trying to keep the ship in fuel, it doesn't make sense to hoard stuff.

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Wednesday, July 1, 2009 2:27 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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I'm in agreement with Jewel Staite fan, especially if they are doing planet side and lunar landings and takeoffs, any extra junk they are hauling around burns more fuel in atmo, when you are living on the raggedy edge and trying to keep the ship in fuel, it doesn't make sense to hoard stuff.

Agreed. I also agree they probably keep what they can use and sell the rest for whatever they can get for it. May not get much, or even what an item might actually be worth, but every little bit keeps them in fuel and food.

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Wednesday, July 1, 2009 10:07 AM

TRAVELER

I suspect Mal may have some rock that he may keep certain items. The ambulence, for instance, may be parked on some dead moon. But the Serenity was a smuggling vessel, so like the cattle, the Serenity crew got rid of them as quickly as possible.

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Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:44 PM

GRIPPER

I always figrured that the bulf of the stash would be cached elsewhere....port of call means customs/Port Authority type checks.Be kin dof a bummer for the dummied up ID to hold and get nailed due to some loot they figured had cooled enough to move with them.
Beyond necessitites(food,meds,fuel&life support /defense implements)cash is king-and has no provenance.

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Wednesday, July 1, 2009 12:59 PM

NCBROWNCOAT

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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Quote:
Originally posted by artcat81:
I'm in agreement with Jewel Staite fan, especially if they are doing planet side and lunar landings and takeoffs, any extra junk they are hauling around burns more fuel in atmo, when you are living on the raggedy edge and trying to keep the ship in fuel, it doesn't make sense to hoard stuff.

Agreed. I also agree they probably keep what they can use and sell the rest for whatever they can get for it. May not get much, or even what an item might actually be worth, but every little bit keeps them in fuel and food.

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Sounds a lot like the dealer that will be taking what's left in my Mom's house. He'll be taking the good, the bad and the ugly in order to get the good at a good price.

And we're letting him take the ugly to get rid of it and taking less for the good.

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Wednesday, July 1, 2009 1:00 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

I figure they got rid of "accumulated" goods as quick as they could, for whatever cash they could get, since they always seem to be on the raggedy edge, money-wise.

As for the weapons, I conjure Mal and Zoe have their favorites, which might not be the *best* weapons, but they're keeping them for comfort and familiarity, AND for sentimental reasons, while Jayne seems the type to constantly be "upgrading" his arsenal, always looking out for something new, unique, or just BETTER than what he's got. He's the real gun slut of the ship, so the others would likely just as soon unload any weapons that fell in their laps (or got dropped there by, say, some of Patience's men...). Jayne's probably not averse to selling off weapons, as long as he's always keeping the best ones for himself and selling of his lesser ones for the ship's general fund.

Mike

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Wednesday, July 1, 2009 2:01 PM

MIKEWILLIAMSON

Dunno. I've never sold a weapon. I'm not sure if
I collect or accumulate.

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Wednesday, July 1, 2009 2:20 PM

KWICKO

I'm pretty sure I accumulate them. I don't really collect them, except in the sense that I figure just about any firearm is going to go up in value as time goes by. I buy what I like, and use 'em. Never sold any either.

The MAK-90 that I bought a year or so ago for $400, I could've sold for double that a few months ago. That was why I bought it, really - because I knew it was underpriced in the market at the time. I probably SHOULD HAVE sold it, because the $800 I'd get would've bought a nice PSL, the value of which seems to be holding pretty steady in the $700 range...

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