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Originally posted by traveler:
Brisco County, Jr. and Wonderfalls are on my list of great viewing. Like Firefly I discovered Wonderfalls years after it had aired. Does FOX understand how to promote a show.

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Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:
-Arrested Development (Does this even count? Didn’t it get 3 seasons?)

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I saw the GLEE pilot episode when they ran it a few months ago, and I thought it was terrific. I believe it will suffer the same fate as DRIVE and be off the air by Christmas.

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Originally posted by Storymark:
As trendy as it is to bash on FOX, I would point out that these are all shows that the other networks would likely never have aired in the first place. Yeah, Fox is know for killing shows for low ratings - but we never would have had the chance to see tham at all otherwise.

We may hate 'em for cancelling Firefly... but would you really prefer never to have seen it at all?

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Originally posted by peacekeeper:
I may be going a little off track here,but how are the ratings for Lie To Me over in the US.I know it has been green lit for S2 but is that in danger of going the same way?.I really love the show by the way.Big fan of Tim Roth.You guys should check out his first movie when he was a young man.Called Made In Britain

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Originally posted by Storymark:
As trendy as it is to bash on FOX, I would point out that these are all shows that the other networks would likely never have aired in the first place. Yeah, Fox is know for killing shows for low ratings - but we never would have had the chance to see tham at all otherwise.

We may hate 'em for cancelling Firefly... but would you really prefer never to have seen it at all?

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I'd agree with you to a point there, Storymark, but the reality lies in the fact that people "bold" enough to actually air shows other networks may not have should have the cajones to stick with and promote those shows to the hilt. Especially in a competitive market like television. If you're going to place faith in a show enough to aire it, then give it a fighting chance and even more than that if it's getting awards and making "top 10" lists, or whatever. Find a good slot for it, or a good block for several good shows and push it like crazy. And for heaven's sake aire the episodes in order!!!! I got a little frustrated when the article said that Drive had good viewership but Fox cancelled it anyway. I liked that one a lot. Nathan was fantastic in it.

Heck, take a look at USA. They've gone the route of a dual season. A regular one and a "summer" one. They had enough faith in shows like Burn Notice, that they promoted it well, gave it a good time slot in a time of year when the regular networks were airing re-runs. Win-win-win! Same thing goes for Royal Pains. Another great show. I feel Fox would have mis-managed these into the ground early on - Pains would have been cancelled by now. It had a slow start, but right after Burn Notice, folks began to take notice.

I have to mention NBC's Friday Night Lights here. That show just will not die. Critics love it, but the ratings aren't even close to good (at least I don't think they are). NBC keeps it on. And on. And on. I don't know a single person myself who watches it.

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Originally posted by Storymark:
I would note that your examples are a show that had high ratings (for a USA show) from the start, and one that is made very cheaply, and airs on a network teetering on bankruptcy - only after it airs on On-Demand first.

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Like it or not, their job is not to cultivate great TV, or please the fervent fans of low-rated shows. Their job is to put shows on that get ratings, and draw advertiser dollars. No one is going to endanger their livlihoods just to show some fanboys their "cojones".

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I'm as pissed as anyone that shows I loved got cancelled. But you have to be realistic. It's a medium that traffics in fantasies, but the realities behind the scenes are very unforgiving.

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My point stands. Without Fox, we never would have gotten ANY Firefly.

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And I'll ask again - would that be better?

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Originally posted by jake7:
Odd thing is, I could swear Keen Eddie was only shown as a summer show. I never expected it to get picked up. I had hoped, though.

I really thought I saw all the episodes on Fox before it went away?

I bought the DVDs and watch them on occasion. Loved that show!

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