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Summer VS Summer

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Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:48 AM

RIPWASH


Check out this latest poll at io9.com.

http://io9.com/5346157/televisions-biggest-badass-of-all-time-day-thre
e-river-vs-cameron?skyline=true&s=x


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Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:39 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


What a kick in the head! Obviously I'm for River, but beyond that, it's neat to see Firefly/Serenity still "out there" so strongly. It amazed me to see how many times it is in the lead in so many of those polls.

Is that a testament to Browncoat determination (as in, more of us going there to vote than other shows' followers), or a testament to FF/S resiliency (as in, enough people have seen it and loved it to actually vote when they come across a choice)? I wonder...

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Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:57 AM

PCCH7


Huge LOL, but I think I actually like Cameron more..

"Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor.."

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Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:22 AM

PATCHIST


I voted for Cameron. River just has her bad-ass days but Cameron is all around 365 days a year bad-ass. She's programmed that way.

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Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:56 PM

MANGOLO


(To Jayne) "I can kill you with my brain"

'nuf said.



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Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:45 PM

TRAVELER


I voted for River. As already stated. She can kill with her brain.


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Friday, August 28, 2009 12:00 AM

PATCHIST


Yeah but Cameron can reboot in 120 seconds.

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Friday, August 28, 2009 8:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Patchist:
Yeah but Cameron can reboot in 120 seconds.



yeah, 120 seconds, that's 2 full minutes.

more than enough time for River to, quite literally, Dis-Arm Cameron's battle Chassis



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Friday, August 28, 2009 8:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by optimus1998:
Quote:

Originally posted by Patchist:
Yeah but Cameron can reboot in 120 seconds.



yeah, 120 seconds, that's 2 full minutes.

more than enough time for River to, quite literally, Dis-Arm Cameron's battle Chassis



Is that what they're calling it these days?



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Still...what would Rorschach do?

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Friday, August 28, 2009 10:00 AM

TRAVELER


Actually, the term chassis has been used for decades. I should know.



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Friday, August 28, 2009 3:39 PM

PATCHIST


Quote:

Originally posted by optimus1998:
yeah, 120 seconds, that's 2 full minutes.

more than enough time for River to, quite literally, Dis-Arm Cameron's battle Chassis



I know that's two minutes. And you're saying River has super human strength too? Where'd that come from?

Don't get me wrong, I love River to pieces. But I say that from an objective point of view.

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Friday, August 28, 2009 3:51 PM

OPTIMUS1998


provided she had the proper tools(AXE), then yes.i think she could remove cameron's arms in 2 minutes.
but if it's just a fist fight then 2 minutes would certainly be enough time to remove cameron's chip.

as for the "stronger than the average bear" strength, I think that just comes from my own mind. Ever since the BDM, I've just kinda thought of her as " River the Reaver Slayer" my own mind wanting to connect FF back to the prior bits of "the whedonverse" 500 years down the line she's "The Chosen One".




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Friday, August 28, 2009 5:02 PM

WASHNWEAR


Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:
Actually, the term chassis has been used for decades. I should know.



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Ah - the care-worn face of experience. I stand enlightened!



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Still...what would Rorschach do?

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Friday, August 28, 2009 7:23 PM

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Could you please just make it stranger? Stranger. Odder. Could be weirder. More bizarre. How about uncanny?


I say they both win, when upon meeting, they make a pact to assault the FOX headquarters and kill all the execs who, strangely enough, bear quite the same traits as Reavers AND Terminators...

Also, I like to muse that River is, much like Fray, a chosen one in the future, only unfortunately on the other side of the 'verse from a good Watcher. So whoever that was above me here, you're not alone.

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Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:20 AM

PCCH7


lol I´d like to see someone with an axe chop the arms off a terminator.. That would indicate that they´re not very difficult to kill at all.. Cameron´s survived being exploded 2 times in very short succession with only a few scars and some damage to her leg, being rittled with bullits, falling out of buildings etc, I´d say that her exo-skeleton is pretty tough. As soon as she gets her hands on River it´s over, I´m sorry to say. Realistically

"Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor.."

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Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:24 AM

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Could you please just make it stranger? Stranger. Odder. Could be weirder. More bizarre. How about uncanny?


Quote:

Originally posted by pcch7:
[...] I´m sorry to say. Realistically



Right, realistically this debate doesn't even exist!

In that vein, I say Summer Glau herself wins, simply because she is incredibly hot!


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Sunday, August 30, 2009 12:17 AM

PATCHIST


LOL. "Reastically" prolly wasn't the best word to describe it, dude.

I'm glad Summer was tapped by Whedon in Dollhouse. We get to see more of her. WIN!

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Sunday, August 30, 2009 1:22 AM

PCCH7


"Right, realistically this debate doesn't even exist!

In that vein, I say Summer Glau herself wins, simply because she is incredibly hot!"

well, no of course it´s not realistic, but then we couldn´t debate half of the movies in the world cause they´re not realistic.. I´ll edit, in terms of these two fictional characters doing battle to the death, it´s not realistic to think that River would have a chance.. happy?

"Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor.."

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Sunday, August 30, 2009 1:52 AM

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"Cavemen or Astronauts. Who wins? Weapons to be decided."

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Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:08 AM

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Could you please just make it stranger? Stranger. Odder. Could be weirder. More bizarre. How about uncanny?


Quote:

Originally posted by pcch7:
well, no of course it´s not realistic, but then we couldn´t debate half of the movies in the world cause they´re not realistic.. I´ll edit, in terms of these two fictional characters doing battle to the death, it´s not realistic to think that River would have a chance.. happy?

"Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor.."



Oh hey, sorry if I offended, I was actually just trying to be funny and point out that since we we're debating fictional characters that anything is possible, and I thought my ludicrous statement made that clear, but apparently something was lost in the internet's inglorious inability to properly translate emotion...or I just suck with my speaking English with of the is at in stuff.

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Sunday, August 30, 2009 1:56 PM

PCCH7


no offence taken.. I should have been more clear on the matter from the start.. This is after all the internet

"Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor.."

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Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:41 PM

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Could you please just make it stranger? Stranger. Odder. Could be weirder. More bizarre. How about uncanny?


Quote:

Originally posted by pcch7:
no offence taken.. I should have been more clear on the matter from the start.. This is after all the internet

"Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor.."



Cool.

okay. How about this?

Could River beat Cameron?
Sure, she's smart enough and psychic, possibly sees glimpses of the future (eg: "Fire." - Out of Gas), so she might figure the weakness(es) out and exploit it(them).

But on straight raw strength, indestructibility, and nuclear power source, Cameron should be the victor.



Nonetheless, I want to be the filling in the Summer Sandwich (painful as that might fictionally be).

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Monday, August 31, 2009 12:02 AM

PCCH7


"Nonetheless, I want to be the filling in the Summer Sandwich (painful as that might fictionally be)."

Amen to that

"Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor.."

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