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Friday, June 18, 2004 6:58 AM

Just some random things
Question 1:
Was the character Bendis (the guy who got shot during the war scene at the begining of Serenity) named for Brian Michael Bendis,writer of both crime novels & Marvel comics?
Question 2:
Was the Alliance starship Dortmunder named after the character John Dortmunder from the Donald Westlake crime/comedy novels such as "The Hot Rock"? Since all the novels are about big capers that go horribly wrong...
Question 3:
Since all bad guys wear hats...
Jayne sometimes wears a hat...
Is Joss trying to say Jayne is sometimes a bad guy?

When faced with a moral question I ask myself; "What would The Lone Ranger do?"

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Friday, June 18, 2004 7:02 AM

KARENKAY99

not sure about 1 & 2 but yeah, jayne is a bad guy, but he's our bad guy and we want him back.

"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."

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Friday, June 18, 2004 7:09 AM

STARPILOTGRAINGER

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Originally posted by Tjack:
Just some random things
Question 1:
Was the character Bendis (the guy who got shot during the war scene at the begining of Serenity) named for Brian Michael Bendis,writer of both crime novels & Marvel comics?

I've wondered this one myself. Joss does read comics (and now, of course, he writes X-Men), and Bendis is one of the 'big names' of the current comic industry (and one of the better writers IMHO), so I wonder if he was throwing a name reference out. Of course, it could just as easily be coincidence.

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Friday, June 18, 2004 7:09 AM

RKLENSETH

I don't know where the hat thing equals bad guy came from but if this is from Buffy or Angel, I don't think it applies to Firefly because a lot of the bad guys don't wear hats while even some of the good guys do wear hats.

Zoe must be a bad guy too because in the war scenes she is usually wearing a hat if you are using the philosophy hat wearing equals bad guys.

Where did that idea ever come from? Is it a Buffy or Angel thing?

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Friday, June 18, 2004 7:16 AM

SILVERCROSS

The idea of hats=bad guy is brought up by the great master himself (JW in case there was any doubt!) in the commentaries on the DVD set (I think he even mentions it in serenity commentary when the Alliance officers are shown wearing hats) And Jayne is kinda a bad guy... he's just on Mal's side.. for now...

Jayne: "Pain is scary" (serenity)

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Friday, June 18, 2004 7:24 AM

SIGMANUNKI

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Originally posted by Tjack:

Question 2:
Was the Alliance starship Dortmunder named after the character John Dortmunder from the Donald Westlake crime/comedy novels such as "The Hot Rock"? Since all the novels are about big capers that go horribly wrong...

Dortmund is a city in Germany. So, he might be making a statement (ie the Nazi thing).

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"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window." -Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

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Friday, June 18, 2004 7:55 AM

CHANNAIN

i DO aim to misbehave

He could also very easily have been "Jossing" us. His commentaries are much like his writing - a lot of the time it's difficult to predict and impossible to interpret.

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Friday, June 18, 2004 8:59 AM

NEDWARD

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Originally posted by silvercross:
The idea of hats=bad guy is brought up by the great master himself (JW in case there was any doubt!) in the commentaries on the DVD set

Yep. And again by Nathan and Alan in the commentary for War Stories. I don't think a hat is a cast-iron guarantee of badness, nor vice versa (the hands of blue don't wear hats, for example), just an increased likelihood.

I wonder if the 'verse has an Evil Millinery that sells blue gloves on the side?

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Friday, June 18, 2004 10:17 AM

DUG

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I wonder if the 'verse has an Evil Millinery that sells blue gloves on the side?

The Bad Hatter? From Alice in Dortmunderland?

Sorry. Migraines make me punny.

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Friday, June 18, 2004 10:26 AM

XARR

Niska never wears a hat. Neither do the MiB(Men in Blue). You just don't get much more "bad guy" than these folks.

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Friday, June 18, 2004 10:35 AM

PURPLEBELLY

I like the way that recent coiffure renders Mal invulnerable to head wounds on the battlefield

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Friday, June 18, 2004 11:18 AM

RAWDEAL

Xarr wrote:
Friday, June 18, 2004 10:26
Niska never wears a hat. Neither do the MiB(Men in Blue). You just don't get much more "bad guy" than these folks. ""

Hahahaah MiB...

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Friday, June 18, 2004 12:49 PM

BIKISDAD

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Quote:
Originally posted by Tjack:

Question 2:
Was the Alliance starship Dortmunder named after the character John Dortmunder from the Donald Westlake crime/comedy novels such as "The Hot Rock"? Since all the novels are about big capers that go horribly wrong...

Dortmund is a city in Germany. So, he might be making a statement (ie the Nazi thing).

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"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window." -Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

That was my thought, too. Nazis=Fascists=Alliance.

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Friday, June 18, 2004 1:06 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.

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Friday, June 18, 2004 3:01 PM

GUNRUNNER

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Originally posted by Tjack:
Question 3:
Since all bad guys wear hats...
Jayne sometimes wears a hat...
Is Joss trying to say Jayne is sometimes a bad guy?

Captian Harken (Alliance Cruiser Skipper in Bushwhacked) didn't have a hat. ;) Also Womack didn't have one he he was an Alliance bad guy.

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Friday, June 18, 2004 5:32 PM

TJACK

(as politely as possible)
To everyone naming all the villians in the series who didn't wear a bloody hat, it wasn't my observation, it was from Joss W. himself on the commentary.

When faced with a moral question I ask myself; "What would The Lone Ranger do?"

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Friday, June 18, 2004 8:25 PM

PURPLEBELLY

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Originally posted by GunRunner:
Captian Harken (Alliance Cruiser Skipper in Bushwhacked) didn't have a hat. ;)

And Harken is a Good Guy [my caps

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Saturday, June 19, 2004 5:57 AM

GUNRUNNER

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Originally posted by PurpleBelly:
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Originally posted by GunRunner:
Captian Harken (Alliance Cruiser Skipper in Bushwhacked) didn't have a hat. ;)

And Harken is a Good Guy [my caps ]

He wanted to arrest Simon and River, Arrest the crew for killing the crew of that ship and he took the crew's selvage! I don't think he is a Good Guy but he isn't pure evil.

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Saturday, June 19, 2004 6:10 AM

PURPLEBELLY

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Originally posted by GunRunner:
I don't think he is a Good Guy but he isn't pure evil.

Distinguished War Service. And he doesn't wear a hat.

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