Browncoat Bar & Grill - ... ... by Kelkhil

Wow... are we out of titles already?
HUGS..you ok Kelkhil??

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, October 26, 2009 12:11 PM

Secondies!!

Still missing the elusive firsties.

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Monday, October 26, 2009 12:17 PM

I only got firsties by accident:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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Monday, October 26, 2009 12:44 PM

Wait, is that morse code in the title? Can anyone decode that? (dash?)dot dot dot dot dot dot?

Am I reading too much into that?

Boychild was irritated by another boy today to the point where he picked up a (luckily nerf) bat and hit him in the face with it. I don't care HOW mad he made him, there is NO excuse for that. (I'm just happy that it wasn't a Louisville Slugger..)

Apparently the boy had kept insisting that if boychild didn't make three baskets the world would end (or some othersuch idiocy) and son played into it and got so wrapped up in it he completely lost it.

Oh how wroth I wax! The teachers said it had definitely been a two way street today with that one, but no it isn't OK to act out like that. I added Unacceptable, Bad, and Just Plain Wrong.

I refrained from verbalizing my immediate response, which was "You little bastard wait until I get you home!", and called his father to meet us at the school. We had a calm and rational discussion about punishments (he was going to be harder on himself than we were in some ways, not learning enough of a lesson in self control in others) and I hauled him home instead of taking him to the dojo.

The other boy is fine, apparently he might have gotten a scratch, and will probably think twice before baiting my son again. (maternal snicker quickly stifled.)

Just think MsA, in another 10 years you too can be writing this post! Enjoy!

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Monday, October 26, 2009 1:30 PM

LOL Just remember I usually deal with the kids who did use a Louisville slugger...
I assume boychild is grounded and is about to be visited by the various chores that teach patience for frustration;)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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Monday, October 26, 2009 1:55 PM

No priveledges until they have been earned back.

(Wii, computer, TV/movies, and reading in the bathroom, among others) (Yes, he really does read in the bathroom, and hates spending time sitting without a book). The above to be earned back by no reports of bad behavior at school, work done on time, and doing what is asked of you IMMEDIATELY with no moping, mumbling, foot draggin, backtalk, or repetitions of the demands. To be succinct: signs of self-control. I've been hearing a little too much teenager-by-association in his inflection lately and it needs to stop. He's picking it up from the kids with older sibs.

He suggested for no Wii for a week, no karate tonight, and a probable spanking when he got home. I said I would take it under consideration and discuss it with his father.

Then Doctroid got in the car and things got mediated to the above. I just glared and made vaguely disappointed glances and discussions of consequences and feelings and needing to be in control of ones self in high school where people will try to push your buttons and get you mad because they're stupid like that, and that if you ever want pets and children of your own you have to be able to control yourself.. like I was right that very instant [meaningful baleful glare]. I think he got the point.

I do my best work as the silent and foreboding presence, tossing in a good measure of maternal disappointment. (He likes to make mom happy and proud. I am not above using this to my advantage. Every weapon in the arsenal...)

The lesson will be learned.

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Monday, October 26, 2009 3:04 PM

Sorry to hear that boychild had a bad day. But glad to hear that things worked out pretty well, considering. (Only the Louisville Slugger? Geesh, I've had kids swing the wooden end of a broom at each other, and others who've stabbed -- and caused bleeding -- each other with ball point pens...)

And if what Kel entered is morse code, it means nothing (unless TSS means something to you....).

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Monday, October 26, 2009 4:35 PM

FREELANCERTEX

Well, TSS turns up a lot of results on google :P

Being grounded sucks, but hey, when you do something wrong it has consequences :\ Sorry boychild was having a hard time, Rosie.

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Monday, October 26, 2009 5:31 PM

Must get that boychild back in line.. HUGS Rosie. oooh taking away reading material that's OW ( but I am sure very memorable)

Oh yeah had that too Neko ( and more I just figured it was less disturbing to go with the bat as opposed to the assault on pregnant teacher etc...)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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Monday, October 26, 2009 9:18 PM

MsA: Yeah that's scary. (Please, please, tell me you weren't doing teh crazy like I tend to do and jumped in between two kids about to smack each other stupid....er...dumber than they already are while pregnant.)

Sudden random thought SR: Wonder what boychild's karate sensei would do if s/he heard about boychild's behavior. ('m thinking that sensei might want to hear about it 'cause one of the things that should be drilled into boychild's head for karate is "fighting is only in self-defense..." and have a few other suggestions for any other disciplinary actions to use at home.)

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:20 AM

He's going there tonight. Not going yesterday was part of the punishment. If they weren't picking up a lot of new material this week he wouldn't be going for the rest of the week. He would have gotten to explain his absence at that point. Pappa's probably going to mention it.

The senseis consider themselves a part of the "whole child" school/home/dojo thing. At least he wasn't using his karate! (Brown belt. I hadn't realized his aim was that good, now I worry more.)

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:11 AM

SPACEANJL

I remember school as being a succession of these sorts of things, scuffles and arguments. As you say, a Nerf bat is luckily quite minor. Could have been a tennis racket, or a ring-binder, or a chair...

My brother simply sat on another boy and broke his collar-bone when he was at school.

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:34 AM

Neko- I wasn't there at the time, but the kid in question shoved a teacher ( who was 7 months pregnant at the time) to the ground as hard as he could. It was my last school before moving to nevada and the kid was only suspended for a day ( bad administrators who never wanted to deal with behavior) and returned. So the teacher quit.

HUGS Rosie... I say you force him to read something fluffy and pointless to test his patience and remind him he can't slap the author:)

OK honestly I must have gone to school on a different planet from the rest of you. I never even knew anyone who was in a fight and the closest I ever got to picked on was when a little school friend of my attempted to even my pigtails out using her safety scissors.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:46 AM

KELKHIL

I had a cane broke up side the back of my head in HS.... Still missing those 3 days in my memory...

Funny part is that Laurelin was the last person to have it before the asshat got hold of it.

<.<
>.>

I like to pick on her about it from time to time too...

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:10 AM

HUGS Kelkhil that sounds bad... I hope they expelled the kid who hit you.
LOL though that Laurelin had it last...

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:22 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

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I must have gone to school on a different planet from the rest of you. I never even knew anyone who was in a fight and the closest I ever got to picked on...

Yeah, definitely a different planet. I got my arm slammed in a locker door and my head slammed against a filing cabinet. Both times, I was punished for defending myself. Though the girl who slammed my arm in the locker was worse off than I was at the end of the day, I will admit. That was all in middle school. My high school was big enough to get lost in, so I avoided most trouble. I did see a guy get thrown into the safety glass of the library door and crack it all to hell, though.

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:34 AM

Eeek my mom would have pulled me out if stuff like that happened at my high school

HUGS Rose:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:29 AM

FREELANCERTEX

I don't really recall any *fights* during the primary and secondary school years, it was more picking-on and name calling and verbal abuse between the popular kids and the not popular kids. unless you were a quiet kid, then you were kind of left alone unless someone found reason to suddenly turn attention on you.

MsA: Pushing a 7-month pregnant teacher and only got suspended for a DAY??? Smart on her part to quit, but that administration is just stupid.

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:26 PM

OMG!

Doctroid had a link on his Facebook to a movie of Felicia Day talking about Galactic collisions. It's about 10 minutes long, but it is so worth it.

LMAO!

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:28 PM

GEE

*hobbles into the bar*

Astroturf is bad for you, I hurt!

I blacked a kids eye with a frying pan age four, got wierdly into a fight with someone I didn't want to because someone else pushed me into him during second year of secondary school so about 13 and I lost a day somewhere the next year when I got bumped by someone in the fith year, told him to watch out, he followed me to my next lesson, tried to intimidate me, apparently I told him to eff off (don't remember) he turned as if to leave and then spun and smacked me with the momentum. Came to my senses in the middle of a German vocab test and asked my best mate what was going on, why I hadn't written anything and why were peope talking in German.

I am so sore, going to bed, must drop in and be more sociable, hope everything is set MsA, and can't remember much else other than Kel & HK being mysterious and ninja like, perhaps I should have bought little ninjas for the wii so I could learn the way.

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:39 PM

HUGs Gee... rest and get better ok. Nothing going on here yet.. no baby , no change..sigh

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:52 PM

NAVYSEILS

I always loved school, but there was definitly still plenty of fighting and bullying that went on there. Builds character and gives you stories to tell and all that stuff. School aint school unless you've almost been stabbed once or twice.

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:49 PM

BRIGLAD

I was always the quiet, chunky, geek kid in school. For some reason I was on the edge of several different 'cliques'. I got along okay with some of the Jocks, eggheads and rednecks. Most of my friends fell into the geek side of things. Band,Drama club etc.

The only 'fight' I can remember being in was one sided.

My high school was a mixed jr./sr. school. Had 7th through 12th grade students mixed together.

One day while waiting in the lunch line, a senior approached me (A wide eyed 7th grader, barely 13) and told me to give him money. Being kinda poor and obstinate, I said no. The afore mentioned senor then punched me (very) hard in the face. Expecting me to cry or something.

I surprised him by not even changing my expression and just staring back at him.

Disappointed by my lack of reaction he pulled back his fist for another shot. He didn't realize the the metal shop teacher was standing behind him. Now this was about 1980 so a teacher physically grabbing a student and tossing him halfway across the cafeteria wasn't as frowned on as it is today. The Shop teacher was 6'3" and built like a stevedore. the Senior flew a respectable distance before being hauled bodily to the office and a one week suspension.

By that night the side of my face swelled up but I didn't cow to the idiot. Never bugged me again either.

Bri

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:58 PM

.. I never got stabbed...

Man, tough neighborhood..

Boychild hit the same kid "lightly" in the eye today when the kid took some tape he was about to use. I am not sure if it was a "snatched out of his hand" took or a "was planning on using the communal tape dispenser in half an hour" took. It sounded like son pulled his punch at the last minute but not quite fast enough. I couldn't really say.

Again, continuation of no priveledges, he had to go to his room while I calmed down and figured out what to do, and then he had to get his social studies assignment finished before bedtime or there would be no dinner (which was a step back from BED! NOW! NO FOOD! and a good swift crack in the ass). We're at "any more of this crap mister and I'm locking you in your room during the party this weekend". This is why I send him to his room, it gives me time to think so I don't follow my other grandfather's example and beat the boy with a refrigerator belt until welts rise. My mother, thankfully, raised me with a different set of rules and consequences (possibly as a result of his example). So no, I really don't want to hear that I should be beating his ass to make my point, thanks, even if I probably should be.

Besides, (MsA rules!)cruel forced book reading is so much more enjoyable and does not leave visible marks!

Got any good suggestions for truly irritating reads? He still reads beginning reader books if it's all that's physically available, or has good artwork, but I think he has never been exposed to DICK AND JANE (Dum Dum Daaaa..! Nah, he'd probably like Spot or something.

There was some really crappy stuff in kindergarten which actually didn't have continuity from page to page or even necessarily relate to the page before it, but it was the curriculum handed down by NCLBthankyouverymuch"W". Perhaps he was traumatized then and can read on secure in the knowledge that nothing could ever possibly be as bad as that?

Of course I physically hurled "Frankenstein" across the room when I finished it for wasting my time. There have been a few I've given up on out of boredom but I usually refuse to give up until the bitter end.

OOH!! Worst Book You Ever Read! (Even if you never finished it) I'll start!

Unreadably bad: "Santa Steps Out" I do not remember the author. By the end of the first very short chapter the Tooth Fairy had commited necrophilia with a drowned man's corpse. I stopped there. (A good writer could have made that work, this one couldn't)

TOP THAT!!!

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:14 PM

I'd drag out every kids book and pious story with a moral you can find and have him write an essay on 4 ways I can stand up for myself without using force. Oh and then , for good measure have him do another essay on 20 ways I can deal with frustration and 20 ways I will show patience with others.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:13 PM

FREELANCERTEX

Oooooooooooh, reading a book and doing an essay on it--or just doing an essay--good one, MsA. I can personallly vouch for feeling like essays are punishment ><;;

Worst book I ever read...there are a few. The Great Gatsby (I'm sorry, it's just so gorram boring), Women in Love (five hundred pages long, and NOTHING happens. except one couple get's married, and one of the main characters dies in a lame way. but that's not till like..the last two chapters), The Good Soldier. All I got right now.

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:30 PM

AVERYFINECOMPANION

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Originally posted by stinkingrose:

Of course I physically hurled "Frankenstein" across the room when I finished it for wasting my time.

I HATED this book too! It was SO boring!!

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OOH!! Worst Book You Ever Read! (Even if you never finished it) I'll start!

Pope Joan. I had to read it for AP English and I hated it. It was the must depressing book ever.

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:38 PM

This could very easily turn into "Rosie's great adventure with slap-happy boy", but I don't want to bore the thread to death.

So: Castle, Halloween ep. Brilliant! More Whedonverse references than you can shake a stake at, nod to vampire and comic book genres, plus some really obscure literary stuff. (One line is pure Mal, though.) There's a thread on it somewhere around here. People are finding easter eggs everywhere. I haven't caught any Dollhouse ones yet.. WAIT!! Someone check me! Opening creds for Dollhouse last season and this, at any point does Echo wear a black trench coat (with or without much else)?

Must go watch again...

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:01 PM

SR: Might need to talk to sensei for "in class lessons" on behavior (and it sounds like you've got a good sensei there...because martial arts should be a part of the whole person, not just at the dojo).

(I like MsA's ideas btw.) How does boychild feel about writing? Maybe have boychild do research (and no internet for the research) and write an essay on why self-control is important and/or things he can do other than hitting or hurting another person when he's angry/frustrated. Or an essay on the philosophy of the karate school he's a part of (including a proper bibliography). (I'm really not above using sensei/coach/etc. to help discipline -- simply because the ones I know treat such behavior as a reflection of not only the child, but also as a representative of the dojo/team/etc.)

Worst book I've ever read...I need to get back to you on the title, but it's a "Christian" book that has claims that make me go "WTH?!" (I don't have it with me, so I need to look it up tonight at home.)

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Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:41 PM

GEE

worst book I ever read, Uncle Tom's Cabin; horrible polemic, badly written and moralising and might have started the Civil War according to Lincoln (can't remember the quote properly, it's early here) but it is a terrible book.

As for school, I was a weird mix of geek boy, class smart ass (essentially because I was either not stretched or didn't get it and not motivated, hence all the open university stuff now) and we don't really do the jock thing America does but I played on the football and rugby teams as well as good enough for county athletics. Essentially, my rugby playing protected me from most fights as I was knew the bullies and tried to stop em running riot.

As for boy child, seems like you're going the right way, speaking as someone who comes from a family with a fairly impressive temper history, it does take time to learn not to strike out, sensei should help by the sound of it but also, if it's not to hippy, meditation and gaining the ability to take a centering breathe so you think and act as you want to be treated can help too.

Anyway, I ought to be getting on,have washing up to do before work and all I have managed so far is to check things online, take pain killers and make myself a ginger and lemon tea!

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 3:40 AM

HELL'S KITTEN

Today's absurd headline from CNN:
"Porn Industry Feels the Squeeze"

Re: Boychild
Sorry you're having problems, Rosie.

My first thoughts were "What?! Just hitting him with the nerf bat ONCE was TOTALLY showing self-control," but then I thought better. Self-control knows where to hit the bully without leaving marks. See? See, people, why I do not have children?

Re: Worst book
"World Without End" by Ken Follett, or however the hell he spells his name. It was the "sequel" of sorts to "Pillars of the Earth", which took me forever to read cuz it was so damn boring for the first half, but I ended up really enjoying it. The other book, though? NO. BAD. And that's it. That's the only bad book I've ever read - aside from school assigned crap - because I simply do not read bad books. I have awesome taste in paper-wordy-things, I guess. XD

Re: Most annoying "signature"
....nah, nevermind. I don't want to be seen as picking on her yet again...

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:04 AM

KELKHIL

Yay for Piggy Doom Flu!

You heard me!....

They closed schools in the area for the week due to mass panic (or some such) so I had to stay home from work today to watch Sir Daughter the Brave while Laurelin is in classes ALL DAY!!! Hehehe Hahahaha!!!

(Dances a Jig)

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:26 AM

oooh break out the graham crackers, chocolate and marshmellows Kelkhil it's s'mores time

Rosie- I highly recommend A Separate Peace. Not only is it preachy and moralistic, but profoundly boring.

HK...gigglesnort ( hey remember I'm the one that told the Pre-K kids they should race each other on the playground causing numerous injuries) I think you'd be a great mom

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:01 AM

WAKEUPSOON

[ / lurk]
I've missed a bit, but for good reason .. BEST NIGHT EVER LAST NIGHT.
My parents are away, so I hosted a Firefly marathon .. 14 HOURS BACK-TO-BACK! So much fun. There were 10 people for the entirety of it, plus one who had to leave but has now asked to borrow the boxset coz she wants to see more!
Only 4 of us had ever seen it before, and I never realised how much fun it was to watch it with newbies. Especially Charlotte, my one friend, who gets so into things she was shouting at the screen. In Heart of Gold, she shouted at those guys for shooting at Wash when he and Kaylee went back to Serenity, and I was just like 'Uh-oh, what's she gonna be like at the end of the film!' She cried.

Anyway, amazing fun times were had lol.

Hope everyone's OK .. especialy MsA, you must be getting pretty uncomfortable about now!

~WuS
This is not my signature, I have to write this every time I post.
Smile && Nod, it makes it seem like you know what's going on.

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:51 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

*has blocked numerous flashy, animated, overly large or otherwise distracting images with her happy firefox plugins; they're not just for ads anymore*

I'm trying to recall the worst book I ever read. My habits of re-reading and sticking with authors I like have served me pretty well. I know there have been books I put down out of boredom or annoyance, and some I may have thrown across the room, and I'm trying to recall what those might have been... Ah, 'Children of Men' was one of them. I didn't even finish it. By all accounts the movie is less preachy and annoying than the book, but I haven't seen it, and most people still found the premise to be ridiculous and full of holes and what was the point, etc. Don't think it tops the list of awful books, but it was pretty bad. There was some trilogy I read earlier this year that was pretty much a waste of time, though I did get through the whole thing, but I can't even remember what it was called.

Snowed in today, more or less. Good thing I didn't have many places to be and the dentist's office was understanding. Give me a chance to catch up on correspondence, perhaps. Or I might waste the whole day playing tower defense games again...

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:55 AM

Rose I agree that book was dreadful, and oddly so as she's usually a really good mystery writer. Not sure what happened.

WuS- that is too awesome. I am so glad you got new people to see the joy:0

Well...may not be a halloween baby. He's showing no sign of being ready. They did an ultrasound for size and he's right on the line between deliverable and C-Section, but they can't induce with him not ready so we wait. If he doesn't come soonish though it's C-section ( which is really really to be avoided at all costs) SIGH

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:11 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Quote:
Originally posted by MsA:
C-section ( which is really really to be avoided at all costs)

No lie! The more I find out about them, the more horrifying I find the idea.
It's your first baby; I hear they can often be stubborn. Have you talked to a midwife? Just a thought, because they might know something about waits and labor that would ease your mind.

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:13 AM

Sadly there is absolutely nothing that can be done. There's no way to make my body go forward in the stages so it's just hope and wait and see.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:13 PM

NAVYSEILS

Hey now Rose, they might be a lil stubborn, but they also turn out quite awesome... says this first-born, c-sectioned baby >_>

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:28 PM

HUGS ...thanks Navy I really needed that:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:39 PM

Firstborn Cesarean Sections!

Was one, had one.

Being a member of The Zipper Club kinda sucks, but you get over it. (Two more weeks of mat leave, too! I'm just sayin'..)

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:57 PM

HELL'S KITTEN

((skitters in))
((finds the darkest, shadowiest corner to curl up in))...

grmbl.....

Oi. Anyone here watch (and remember) the fifth season of Buffy? After seeing the series about a zillion and two times, there is still one episode that I just do not understand: "Into the Woods". Anyone remember that one?

((patiently lurks))

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:22 PM

AVERYFINECOMPANION

I also was a first born C section!

I see a pattern here...

All awesome people.

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:31 PM

ROXYFREEFALL

Woman, you are completely off your nut.

I was a natural born. Guess I'm gonna have to hang 'round the outside of the cool people group and be the nerd that thinks the awesome will somehow rub off. Hehehe

Oh and FYI: People suck. Just my experience from the day.

*stakes a shadowy corner and wards off invaders*

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DFTBA!

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:38 PM

[EDIT1: Lame joke about how/why babyJ's being stubborn.]

[EDIT2: Summary -- Richard Ing's "Spiritual Warfare" is an amazingly bad/horrific book -- I'm horrified and amazed that there are books and people out there that think faith other than the exact one they follow is wrong, a source of evil, and basically must-be-destroyed. Must be from my very Asian mindset towards relgion.]
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*hugs HK and brings comforting polished can-o-dew, and assorted goodies*

Roxy: Ugh...sorry to hear that. Yeah, some hooomans are of teh suck.

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 3:22 PM

I remember Into the Woods... what's puzzling you specifically

HUGS Rosie well hopefully I can avoid it and sadly I do not get any more maternity leave no matter what ( barring catastrophic hospitalization for more than 2 months) so it's one of the reasons I am anxious to get him here. Longer he stays in less time I have with him.

On the truly nifty side which I was a bit distracted to mention before... The ultrasound tech finally got a good image of his face. He looks just like his daddy... I'm so squeee over it

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 3:35 PM