Browncoat Bar & Grill - ZOMG It's A New Bar Thread! by RoxyFreefall

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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
As I'm trying to make an informed decision about what I want to be when I grown up, please be honest, especially as now I'm struck that honesty might not be encouraging.

All right, Sweetie. I have my cheekin noodl zoop, gave this a bunch of thought, and am now prepared to answer. If I end up sounding like a bitch in any way, that's not my intention. You know I ((heart)) you. ^^

This is going to get long, folks, so give that scroll wheel a work-out.

But first...! -->

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Don't have a thing nailed down yet, aside from pretending to be a responsible adult.

ZOMG, nooooo!!!1one
You can be "responsible" without having to stoop to the level of being an "adult". XD

And second... -->

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Mechanical, you say? I was thinking about computing, but yeah I really don't have that nailed down yet.

This is vital.
Computer "engineering" isn't really in the same school as Engineering. Completely different things. Like, thinking about taking engineering courses to become a Domestic Engineer. (No offense meant, just trying to give an example.) The terms use the same word, but it's not part of The School of Engineering.

So you'll first have to determine if you want to be a Computer engineer or an Engineer. I can't help you with CE, so I'll just continue with Engineering.

Mathz, science, blah blah blah. For the most part, accredited schools don't really have "engineering courses" that don't have prerequisits, so in all likelihood, you'd have to commit to it or waste a semester or two on general math, chem, physics, etc.

Supposing you commit to that potentially wasted time and money and then commit to "The School of Engineering", you don't necessarily have to determine which path you want to take right away. A lot of the entry level engineering classes are common to all disciplines, with some exceptions.

Now, having a vague idea of what you want to do for a career will help you determine which discipline you want to focus on. You want to heal the world? Choose biomedical engineering. You want to accidentally electricute yourself because you neglected to remember that something which normally runs on a 9-volt battery ought not be plugged directly into the wall? Choose electrical engineering. You want to work at McDonald's? Choose aerospace engineering. You want to work with HVAC systems or clean room doors? Choose mechanical engineering. You want to play in a sandbox all day? Choose civil engineering. Et cetera. ((shifty eyes))

You want to make things?
Choose a different career entirely.
The likelihood is that you will not actually make things, not the way I imagine you're maybe thinking. (?) Out of school, you will be someone else's bitch, regardless of whether you do an internship or not: you'll do things for them, you'll perform tests for them, you'll write documents for them. If you go into manufacturing, you'll be stuck making sure the production floor keeps running, maybe tinker with improving processes and maintaining equipment. Research & Development is what you would want, but no one fresh out gets to do actual design work. Hell, after 12 years doing the same thing in the same industry, I don't get to do a whole lot of design work, it's mainly development (or slight re-design) of someone else's design. But at least you're closer to it all, ya know?

But back to schooling.... I recall several mini-rants (not saying that in a derogatory way) about not liking the way your teachers were teaching, or not liking what they were making you do, or thinking what they were making you do was beneath you or pointless or useless because you'd never use it in real life, etc. That, in a nutshell, is about 97% of all engineering curriculum. And after at least 4 years and tens of thousands of dollars in debt, that's really fucking annoying. XD

Differential equations, thermodynamics, statics, fluid transport phenomenon... these are not exactly courses for free, independent thinkers. (An exception is if you were to go for a pure mathematics degree. There is a beauty and art to pure mathematics that you don't really even begin to play with in engineering courses.) If you didn't like *having* to do something a certain way in your more artistic courses, you are probably not going to like engineering courses. These professors Do Not Care; it's more sort of "grow up or get out."

So while I am clearly Living TeH Dream ((choke)), I consider myself a whole lot luckier than the majority of engineers for many reasons. The really cool, really awesome, really free-thinker job opportunities for engineers are few and far between, with lots of competition.

After all that, none of this is meant to discourage you. As you said, it's good to know what you're in for. Hope some of this was informational... feel free to ask me anything...

...

Now I have to get back to saving the world.

XD

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Wednesday, December 16, 2009 1:13 PM

And THAT, folks, is how to kill a thread.

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Wednesday, December 16, 2009 1:23 PM

Oh you did not kill the thread:)

Hmm my brother did his internship with ThiakolATK and was responsible for things like optimal rocket placement on the space shuttle( which I found sooooo ironic since I barely deem him responsible enough to borrow my car) and now he designs processes for waste refinement into fuel and removing metals without arsenic, but I don't really understand most of what he does. He seems to enjoy it, but it does involve considerable travel and a LOT of hours and work. I know it took him 4 years to get his degree and he's a super student who flies through classes easily. Most people took 5-6 years to do it. I don't think he ever gets to design original stuff and I know free thinker is NOT something they do in engineering classes. It seemed when he talked about it it mostly was theorums, equations, calculations etc...
Not sure if that helps Rose:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, December 16, 2009 1:25 PM

"Clear!"

BZZAPP!!

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Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:23 PM

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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
And THAT, folks, is how to kill a thread.

I was going to wait until nightfall and see what the thread rose as (zombie, vampire, weird-smelling ooze) and then deal with it, but I guess some people got impatient.

...and it takes more than a long string of words to drive me away

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Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:58 AM

how do you feel about small giggling babies Niuco?? Would that drive you away?

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:09 PM

Depends if I can hand them back when they need changing or not.

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Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:01 PM

Sure:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Friday, December 18, 2009 3:39 AM

Saturday morning bump, just cos I can.

*retreats to the shadows before the Friday morning workers get annoyed enough to take retributive action*

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Friday, December 18, 2009 6:26 AM

Hey it's one week til Christmas..yay for baby's first Christmas

ooh what are you doing for your Saturday Nico?

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Friday, December 18, 2009 7:44 AM

May his first Christmas be a joyful one ;)

Yay for almost Christmas!! My brother won't be coming down this year :'( as his work is stupid and has him working six day weeks, but we will get to see him on New Years ^_^ so it's not a total downer. Also, we are getting snow in time for the holidays :)

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Friday, December 18, 2009 2:20 PM

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Originally posted by MsA:

ooh what are you doing for your Saturday Nico?

During the day - as little as possible, but tonight, I have to work.

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Friday, December 18, 2009 5:44 PM

BLACK12AKYTCA

Zomg I'm ungrounded!! AND I have a rl bf!!! -spreads Happy Confetti all over the place before going off to the corner to bounce and squee a bit-

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Friday, December 18, 2009 5:49 PM

AKYFLAN

Actually, new account (old one is confusing and I have way too much stuff in the name). Yes, this IS RF!

And may his first Christmas be an awesome one, MsA!

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Friday, December 18, 2009 6:12 PM

WOOT for having a real bf, RF!!!

*hugs*

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Friday, December 18, 2009 6:21 PM

AKYFLAN

-glomps- I know! So happy (and pretty damn nervous) at the same time!

Btw, is your sig from that scene you mentioned in Castle, the Halloween party?

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Friday, December 18, 2009 7:14 PM

It's not the party, but it is the episode

and it is the awesome.

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Saturday, December 19, 2009 7:50 AM

Muppets' version of "Bohemian Rhapsody".

Random awesome alert.

bump.

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Saturday, December 19, 2009 3:45 PM

muppet anything is awesome

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Sunday, December 20, 2009 6:06 AM

*sets out a Sunday champagne brunch*

Morning all

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, December 21, 2009 1:28 AM

Walks in on Monday morning and gets a wonderful idea.

"Mmmm... mimosas..."

(I'm really waiting for the coffee maker to advance far enough in the process that I can pour a cup and replace the pot.)

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Monday, December 21, 2009 1:45 AM

*notices that the champagne has gone flat and cleans up brunch area* [EDIT: leaves the champagne out for SR if she wants to use it for mimosas, but places the bottle in a container of ice and salt water to make sure the champagne is re-chilled nicely]

Had the annual secret santa party with friends (I was in charge of the gift coordination). I baked my first ham for the whole group. If I knew how hard it is to make a ham for a dozen people before...I'd have been making it sooner.

Also...realized the same thing for those felt coffee cozies...

guess what might be showing up in folk's holiday cards next year.

*looks at calendar* It can't be nearly the Christmas....I still have everybody's card and gifts to mail out...

Think anyone'll be upset with Christmas cards and gifts showing up after Christmas?

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Monday, December 21, 2009 6:09 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
You want to make things?
Choose a different career entirely.

Hmmmm, well I do, so mayhaps I will. I really appreciate the advising, Kitten, thank you ^_^ I think I can take a more informed look at my options, now. So lucky to know all teh smart peoples doing all teh jobs.
I would have thanked you sooner, but this is my first day off since three people quit, and this only because I insisted I would not work on my birthday. I so need a better job with fewer people who will walk out at the drop of a hat. Is there a career track for that?

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An exception is if you were to go for a pure mathematics degree. There is a beauty and art to pure mathematics that you don't really even begin to play with in engineering courses.

Now that's a thought. My grandpa was a pure mathematics guy who ended up in engineering, his physics degree being useful for the calculations of what a rocket needed to do. Course things were just a teeny bit different 60+ years ago, and it probably would have worked out very differently for him today.

Well, I'm going to finish up the graphic design thing and then see what my options may be. I might just end up liking the field I'm currently degreeing for XD And hey, since I was the only person in my layout class (including teacher) who knew what a golden rectangle was and how it was utilized in layouts, maybe I'll do okay.

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Monday, December 21, 2009 7:58 AM

coffee cozies??!?! please enlighten.

Almost Christmas ^_^ and we totally got a blizzard here over the weekend. It was pretty crazy. I should have taken a picture of the entire front of my car being missing, as it was buried up to the roof from the windshield forward XD yay for high winds and snow drifts

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Monday, December 21, 2009 9:19 AM

Oh yes ham and cheese potato such a great idea for large crowd feeding... you actually get to enjoy life:) HUGS Neko

LOL Rosie we're having mimosas for Christmas.. well NV is, I'm having a half of one ( right after I feed baby so it'll be out of my system long before I feed again)

HUGS Rose good luck sweety:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, December 21, 2009 10:59 AM

MsA: *giggle* Yeah. I be love-ed by one of the get-together's hosts (he loves ham...especially soaked in teh juices) and probably a few others (pre-glazed spiral ham with an extra handful of brown sugar rubbed in and baked -- who knew? Not I.)
*blinks* Half a mimosa?

You can have as much as you want if you're only going to drink half of a mimosa even while feeding baby. (I didn't think that drinking OJ is bad for baby...

*ducks flying object*)

FLT: erm...whatever they call teh thingy that people use 'round their paper coffee cups from the various coffee shops (like Seattle's Best, etc.) Made nearly a dozen to give out as favors -- and most people first thought they were a felt bracelet or armband or something...
*ponder* Maybe for the next set, I'll give 'em out with a paper coffee cup filled with treats...

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Monday, December 21, 2009 11:59 AM

yup alcohol transfers through breast milk so until he's weaned it's an occasional sip only...but hey healthy baby is worth it:P

mmmmm ham... and then after cheese and ham pie, ham spirals, split pea soup with ham,

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:21 PM

MsA:

meant a virgin mimosa (teh OJ half only)...unless you or lil'John has the rare ability to turn OJ into alcohol naturally.
*leaves Hershey's hugs and kisses in the bar bowls*

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Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:59 PM

But teh alkoholz maeks tehm sleepz sooo gooood...

I had an ...interesting... day at work. I'm having a large glass of wine and reminding myself that I'm getting paid to be there and it's not permanent. Despite a doctor and some others asking me to please stay. (OHnononononoes!)

Wine! More wine, and escapist fantasy visual distraction!

(Hops behind the bar and sets up a round of car bombs, a biiiig mango smoothie, plus Teh Dew, Bawls, a perfectly made martini, truly amazing cocoa, a line of Jameson's in wee glasses, Frozen Daquiri in a rainbow of flavors, and Navel Sex On The Fuzzy Beach (You figure out the recipe!).

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Tuesday, December 22, 2009 2:36 PM

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Originally posted by stinkingrose:
More wine, and escapist fantasy visual distraction!

?

...or is it just me...?

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Tuesday, December 22, 2009 2:41 PM

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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I really appreciate the advising, Kitten, thank you ^_^

You're welcome, Sweetheart.
I'm glad it was at least somewhat informative. I quite literally had NO IDEA what I was getting myself into when I tossed the dart and it landed on "biomedical engineering". XD

...and I'm reluctantly almost somewhat sure it's not all as bad as I described. There are a lot of good companies and opportunities, especially if you can find the small start-up companies. The start-ups are where all the fun and excitement resides. Heh.

--

Happy holidays, kids.

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Tuesday, December 22, 2009 2:51 PM

SR: True, but isn't that for when they're a bit older (and not breastfeeding)?

Ugh...sorry to hear about your "interesting" day at work. At least you get some compensation for your efforts and grief...and you only have to deal with them during working hours.

You could trade with me and have my "interesting" evening conversation with male parental unit.

Someone have a good drink that will do what allkoholz iz suppozed to do (besides maek me drunk -- musckles still tighter and tenser than rocks)?

[EDIT: *squee!* ninjakitty]
...ooookay....why is Alan dressed up and looking like teh badass V self in late 70's early 80's clothing? That's a bit *too* scary....I think Jayne might start worrying a bit and checking that he's got the grenades on him....
(But no, it's not just you...he does look scary serial-murderer yummy)

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Tuesday, December 22, 2009 3:59 PM

While I am positively antedeluvian in comparison with some, I still have a male parental unit of my own to contend with.

I just sit back at times like these and remember the t-shirt my mother got me years ago. It read "You don't scare me, I'm a nurse."

If I could just get the damned charts in a timely manner I'd be getting twice the work done in half the time. I'm still dealing with crap from the 17th.

Iz ridiculuss!

(Takes a big swig and slams a now empty bucket of beer on the bartop for emphasis)

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Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:05 PM

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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
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Originally posted by stinkingrose:
More wine, and escapist fantasy visual distraction!

?

...or is it just me...?

He looks reeeeeeeeeeally weird in a three-piece suit, just puttin' that out there. And that look is pure evil

SR: sounds like the awesomest t-shirt ever. Might have to get it for the "sister-in-law" (it's easier than saying bf's brother's girlfriend) as she's in nursing school, and not much scares her :P lol. Re interesting day: Why the 'oh noes' on them wanting you to stay? Bad day?

*back to lurk mode, as I don't have much else to say :\ *

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Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:40 PM

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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:

....If the Doctor goes to the dark side for his final incarnation, this is what he may look like.

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Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:30 AM

I do hope the man gets to wear a shirt which is slightly less...um....wash-y.. some day. Ow. My eyes.

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Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:58 AM

I don't know why but I find the tie so off putting it detracts from the hotness

um yay for virgin mimosas ...sort of

good luck finding a better job Rosie

Rose my brother likes his company...but he's weird

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:32 PM

The tie in combination with the shirt and pocket square actually act as an effective HDS unit (Hotness Dampening Shield).
I did not realize that muted rose tones could be so loud. Costuming magic!

(Sets out assorted booze)

The bar needs polishing. Where did we put the robot again? (goes off in search of the broom closet)

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Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:09 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
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Originally posted by stinkingrose:
escapist fantasy visual distraction!

?

...or is it just me...?

...not just you.

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Thursday, December 24, 2009 8:45 AM

how are you blotting out the tie/shirt combo???

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:04 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Er, I dunno. I didn't really notice until y'all mentioned it; I thought the most distracting thing was the large, out-of-focus metal rod in the foreground, but I got past that fairly quickly, too. I suppose It Just Doesn't Bug Me, can't say how or why. Except, you know, Alan is just ridiculously hot.

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Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by MsinsAne:
I don't know why but I find the tie so off putting it detracts from the hotness

Originally posted by stinkinglunaticrose:
The tie in combination with the shirt and pocket square actually act as an effective HDS unit (Hotness Dampening Shield).

Oh, hey, yeah, hi.
WTF is wrong with you two?

Is it context? Is context needed? Okay: 1. Alan, 2. Muscles, 3. Alan, 4. Muscles to rival Jayne's, 5. Alan, 6. Alan in a suit, 7. Insane homicidal genius, 8. With a twisted sense of humour, and 9. Alan.

Eeeeee, I didn't realize we could post YouTube stuff now - sorry for any inconvenience.

Aaaaaaalllllllannnnnnnnn.

XD

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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I suppose It Just Doesn't Bug Me, can't say how or why. Except, you know, Alan is just ridiculously hot.

It doesn't bug you, Rose, dear, because you are a reasonable human woman.
Those other two?
Yeah. Not so much.
Apparently.
...the poor dears....... XD
((shifty eyes))

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Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:22 PM

I'd wish people a happy Day Off work, but since the BBC is killing David Tennant twice in one week (Hamlet being the other death), I'll just sit here and ogle Alpha some more.

...and the first person to suggest a Y chromosome type such as myself can't do that will be sliced up with my shiny new cheese knife.

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Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:31 PM

Nico can haz cheez?
)
The fuzzy rod in the foreground is the "treatment" chair.

Um, fuzzy METAL rod. Um. Yeah.

So anyway, Alan is teh hotness it is indisputable. DESPITE the shirt/tie combo. He actually makes that look good, but it distracts and detracts. Maybe Rose just mentally undresses him fast enough that she doesn't see it after a microsecond?

I also love that he credits Monty Python as one of the gread British contributions to the world. (Nothing like a good self-reference!)

Hee hee. I am in my pajamas and I am not getting out of them until Monday, dammit!

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Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:35 PM

I can see the hotness (which is strongly magnified by the evil) once that tie and shirt are gone....hey ADD here I tend to focus on the wildly irrelevant
Also I've had like 2 hours sleep and been peed on twice today...which kinda impairs all hotness detecting

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:58 PM

Oh, oh, oh, lookit all the back-pedaling!

No, no. Too late. Screw you guys.

I'm taking my toy and going home.

XD

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Thursday, December 24, 2009 2:04 PM

I'm not backpedaling, I'm stating that the tie/shirt combo is FUGLY and a veritable god such as Himself should not be shrouded in dissonant raiment.

Let's just imagine it all off for a moment and see if that helps...

Yup. All better.

See? It's the tie and shirt clouding our judgement. Oh, villainous wardrobe supervisor which slipp-ed in the vileness whilst the costumer looketh not. Fie! FIE AND SHAME UNTO YOU, I say!

(better?)

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Thursday, December 24, 2009 2:25 PM