Stop boycotting the good stuff by maugwai

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Stop boycotting the good stuff

POSTED BY: MAUGWAI
UPDATED: Monday, July 5, 2004 16:55
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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:36 AM

I was just reading the ratings for this week. "The Simple Life 2" was the top rated show. "Last Comic Standing" and "Who Wants to Marry my Dad" trailed at 2nd and 3rd.

And way, way behind them, so far behind them that it probably won't last the season, was "The Jury," a drama with characters and plots and even Warren from Buffy. But nobody watched it, becaues all the people who would watch it are busy boycotting Fox. So instead, all the people who have no brain cells and no taste are watching Reality shows and proving that they are the cash cows.

So unless people start watching the things that aren't Reality, we will continue to be inundated with this crap-o-rama. And everything that is not crap will continue to get cancelled. And I just can't take it any more! I can't! Somebody, for god's sake, tell me a frelling weekly story that lasts and hour and makes me think!

"Dear diary, today I was pompous and my sister was crazy."

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:28 AM

EMBERS

well personally I haven't found any good stuff.

The Jury is very slow and dull, with the one bright spot being whenever Adam Busch (aka Warren) is on the screen (I'm noticing an increase in screen time for him...maybe the show's producers have noticed how good he is too). Actually I haven't stopped watching that show, I just fast forward thru all the dull (most of it) parts.

I have never watched any of the 'reality' (stupid low bow departures from reality) you mentioned....

Pretty much all I've been watching are
Queer Eye on Bravo
and Monk on USA...
not because I'm boycotting anything, but these are the only good shows on.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:14 AM

KELLAINA

I don't think everyone is necessarily boycotting Fox (although I don't doubt that there are some and its not like Fox doesn't deserve it

) I think part of the problem is that its summer and people aren't watching tv.

Or it could be the whole once bitten twice shy thing -why get involved with a show that will likely get cancelled.

Personally, I don't really like courtroom/lawfirm type shows and there seems to be a lot of them at the moment. That's why I'm not watching, it has nothing to do with Fox.

I do understand your frustration about the lack of good stories. With the exception of repeats of shows I already watch, I'm not watching any tv (and that's only because I happen to have extra time on my hands at the moment). There's nothing new that's compelling enough to make me watch the next week

.

That said, I will be watching the Amazing Race. I can't help it, I love that show.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:30 AM

SERGEANTX

Any medium that derives its income directly from advertisers is destined to become a crapfest. I'm not boycotting TV, I've given up on it. In the process I've found quite a different perspective. It's amazing how loud and obnoxious television is when you're not exposed to it on a daily basis. Equally amazing is just how deeply television pervades our culture.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:32 AM

TERRIBLETINK

I don't think that I actively boycott Fox -- just don't like much they have to offer. About the only things I watch on any of the regular networks are Seinfeld re-runs, and that's mostly TBS, which kinda doesn't count.

Sounds like a lot of us don't watch TV much. What are the folks watching who do come home and plop themselves down in front of it?

I mostly stick to The History Channel or Discovery Times, and if I'm feeling like fluff, I'll watch The Travel Channel, E!, or Food Network.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 12:59 PM

RIVERGIRL

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Originally posted by terribletink:
I don't think that I actively boycott Fox -- just don't like much they have to offer. About the only things I watch on any of the regular networks are Seinfeld re-runs, and that's mostly TBS, which kinda doesn't count.

Sounds like a lot of us don't watch TV much. What are the folks watching who do come home and plop themselves down in front of it?

I mostly stick to The History Channel or Discovery Times, and if I'm feeling like fluff, I'll watch The Travel Channel, E!, or Food Network.

course it is rerun season so I am catching up on Movies on SHO or HBO

thou I think new episodes of some syndiated series-ie Stargate SG1 etc are due to start in July

also love History Detectives on PBS

ah and Hillermans Thief of Time is on next weekend

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:20 PM

CHOZSUN

My TiVo Season Passes:

The Shield
Blackadder
Coupling
The Office
Good Eats
Chappelle's Show

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Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:33 PM

BIKISDAD

I'm not boycotting tv. I'm one of the ones who's given up on it completely. I had my cable disconnected the day after the "Angel" finale repeat. My cable bill kept increasing while the quality of the programming kept plummeting. Why waste the money. Now I'm just buying dvd's of movies and shows that I know I like. There's really quite a treasure trove of movies and shows on dvd from over the last forty years. Things like "The Saint" (the show, not the movie) and "The Avengers", as well as the newer things from Joss.

If I ever hear that Joss has another show coming back on tv, I'll renew my cable subscription - but not before then.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 6:36 AM

JAKE7

I haven't been actively boycotting Fox, they've done it for me.

They haven't really had much good on to watch!

Used to be I watched Fox 95% of the time. Now it's a rarity.

On weeknights, I watch the reruns of Simpsons and Seinfeld (6-7 in Chicago) and on Sundays, I watch the Simpsons and Arrested Development and the only other show I can think of that I watch on that station is That 70's Show.

Other than that, I'm watching other channels.

Heck, I've even gotten into watching RFD-TV (and that's just sad, even if I DO live in the country!)

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MAL: Everybody's makin' a fuss.

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 6:44 AM

SOUTHERNMERC

Same here Jake7, fox hasn't had anything good on, nor do I have the drive to go look for anything on network TV. I scan the guide online and look for shows to record during the week, record them, then watch them. That's it. That and rentals from Netflix keep me goin. Only reason I have to be with my cable company is to pay for my cable modem. When I become truly bored with TV I probably will just drop the channels, but there are some good shows in syndication that I watch. Like the first few seasons of Angel, and DS9 when it is about to start up the dominion war thing soon.

Jayne: "You got yourself lookin' mighty hideous!"

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 6:50 AM

PATSRULE

I like Last Comic Standing. I like the amazing race too, and I will watch it when it comes on next week. I don't think it is right to lump all reality shows. Some are good, some aren't. The Casino...horrific. Amazing race...good.

The jury is allright, but nothing too special. I have it on a season pass. I would hardly call it great television, especially compared to Murder One (the only show I rate above firefly) before it got cancelled in the mid 90's.

But a few things to think about:

Unless you have a nielsen box, it doesn't matter what you watch, you won't affect the ratings. A boycott would do nothing. Tivo actually keeps track of what everyone watches, as a pseudo ratings alternative for a select few viewers out there, but even that doesn't help, because the tivo users don't watch commercials!

Clearly the Jury isn't suffering because of any boycott of Fox, because you pointed out that the simple life was #1, and that is a show on fox.

Set to go, snap. ball down, kick up, its on the way and, it, is...good! It's good! It's good! Adam Vinatieri booms a 48 yard field goal! And the game is over, and the Patriots are superbowl champions! The best team in the national football league!

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 8:55 AM

DAWNSISTER

I sat down and watched The Jury the very first night to support Adam, I watched the first and just couldn't make it thru the second. Cheesy writing, bad supporting cast for jurors. The only thing I liked about it was the Baliff guy that is friends with Adam's character. Adam's character I thought was just wierd. When in the second episode he just starts singing for no reason and the bailiff asks him what he's doing, Adam replies "I don't know", that pretty much summed up my feelings on the whole show.
Other than that, except for That 70's Show, I don't like what Fox has to offer.

"We have to go the crappy planet where I'm a hero!"

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 9:22 AM

MAUGWAI

I shouldn't have implied that I thought The Jury was good stuff. It's nothing super special. But it isn't reality, and it is one of very few things on Fox that has an actual plot. It's better to watch than The Simple Life. Not to mention all the actors, writers and producers, like our dear Joss, who are out of work because cheap labor is so readily available, and so many people are willing to watch it.

On the other hand, the people who would be watching the good things on TV are tuning out. Even Nip/Tuck, which is pretty much the only really good thing on in the summer, didn't draw as big a crowd as The Simple Life. It's just depressing. I happen to like TV, and there's only so many times you can watch the same old episodes of Firefly before you get restless for something new. And anything new doesn't catch enough viewers or word of mouth discussion to stay on the air. So we are stuck with Nicole and Paris. Ugh.

"Dear diary, today I was pompous and my sister was crazy."

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 9:22 AM

KEVSCOAT

Man, Last Comic Standing is kinda funny though

I tune out when they start getting into the "drama". Actually, one of the funniest moments to me was when someone said something like "when did this become the Real World??" and then there was a moment where the writing and scene looked like Real World. Now, that was funny!

But I understand your frustration. I think Fox only put The Jury on during the summer cause they didn't think it would work during the main season. I'm not much into courtroom drama, but I'd hate to see any decent show get the boot while reality crap lives on.

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Thursday, July 1, 2004 10:25 AM

MER

I'm not boycotting Fox. The only time I watch it is all the shows on Sunday nights, That 70's Show, The Jury (I find it really interesting), Quintouplets, and any good movie showing on it.

There isn't many good shows on Fox these days...

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Friday, July 2, 2004 6:20 AM

DAWNSISTER

When I went to Moonlight Rising last month, someone asked James Leary about reality shows and he said this is like the lowest employment rate for writers in the past ten years. It's really hurting the actors and writers.

"We gotta go to the crappy planet where I'm a hero!"

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Friday, July 2, 2004 6:35 AM

CARDIE

The first couple of Jury episodes were sort of weak, but it is getting better. I thought Tuesday's episode was very strong. But I never could stand Adam on Buffy, and there at least he was supposed to be the villain. I don't like him any better here, and most of the regulars are bland. If it's an interesting case with some good jurors, it's OK.

Cardie

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Friday, July 2, 2004 9:02 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

I am not actively boycotting Fox, I simply do not watch them because they have nothing worth watching since they canned Wonderfalls.

To be honest, w/ the exception of the History and Discovery Channels, I only watch perhaps 4 or 5 shows which add up to perhaps 3-4 hours of television in a week. I read for the most part.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Sunday, July 4, 2004 1:54 PM

BIKISDAD

Quote:
Originally posted by Cardie:
The first couple of Jury episodes were sort of weak, but it is getting better. I thought Tuesday's episode was very strong. But I never could stand Adam on Buffy, and there at least he was supposed to be the villain. I don't like him any better here, and most of the regulars are bland. If it's an interesting case with some good jurors, it's OK.

Cardie

I hadn't watched it, but I caught a repeat episode a couple of days ago and thought it was OK. It's basically just another lawyer show, but shown from the jury's perspective instead. Basically, it just seems to show what all the other lawyer shows do - that our "justice" system is screwed up beyond belief - nothing really new there. But I guess I'll keep watching it just because Adam is on it.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

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Monday, July 5, 2004 8:35 AM

SBWATCHER

Quote:
Originally posted by bikisdad:
I'm not boycotting tv. I'm one of the ones who's given up on it completely. I had my cable disconnected the day after the "Angel" finale repeat. My cable bill kept increasing while the quality of the programming kept plummeting.
If I ever hear that Joss has another show coming back on tv, I'll renew my cable subscription - but not before then.

I canceled mine long before that. I only watched a couple of the stations to begin with. But when they raised the monthly charge AND took away one of the channels I watched and replaced it with a shopping channel I canceled. Luckily, Angel was on broadcast TV.

The only TV I watch now is Angel reruns since I didn't see the first 3.5 seasons. My suggestion? Go to the video store. We can rent 2 movies for $1 at Family Video. We've seen Danny Kay in the "Secret Life of Walter Mitty" and Jimmy Stewart in "The Shop Around the Corner". I recommend both.

"What's sanguine mean again?"

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Monday, July 5, 2004 4:13 PM

BIKISDAD

Funny, I think I've seen both of those, but many, many years ago. You're right. There's a boatload of great dvd viewing out there. Heck, I can watch "Casablanca" 50 times in a row and not get tired of it.

Now that my cable is off, ironically, the only broadcast channel that I pick up very well is FOX. So DVD rentals are definitely the way to go. I just rented "Master and Commander" today and enjoyed it a lot. Flynn did the ship captain role better, but it was still a very entertaining movie.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

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Monday, July 5, 2004 4:55 PM

CAPTAINTIGHTPANTS

Can't make myself care about the large amounts of garbage on TV. Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, Monk, Fox News, Touching Evil isn't bad... Some Discovery and History stuff is ok... Bravo has a few things on worth watching. B&N had a great sale on DVD's... buy two get one free last month. I've a ton of new stuff to watch (and a new set of Firefly DVD's).

Got a great miniseries on DVD called Neverwhere from the novel of the same name by Neil Gaiman. You guys might enjoy it... if you haven't already seen it.

Check out Croup and Vandenmar. Very nifty bad guys!

You're gonna come with us...

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Monday, July 5, 2004 4:55 PM

CAPTAINTIGHTPANTS

Got a great miniseries on DVD called Neverwhere from the novel of the same name by Neil Gaiman. You guys might enjoy it... if you haven't already seen it.

Check out Croup and Vandenmar. Very nifty bad guys!

You're gonna come with us...

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