Patton Oswalt to write Firefly comic book by Haken

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Patton Oswalt to write Firefly comic book

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Tuesday, March 9, 2010 2:42 PM

Likes to mess with stuffs.

Comedian Patton Oswalt is continuing where "Serenity" left off in a new comic titled "Serenity: Float Out," which focuses on the aftermath of Wash's death.

http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/03/patton-oswalt-to-write-firefly-comic-bo
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Tuesday, March 9, 2010 4:13 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:02 PM

PHYRELIGHT

Patton Oswalt, FTW!!

One thing I love about Firefly: the 'verse does need to center around Serenity, per se.

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Thursday, March 11, 2010 4:24 AM

GWEK

Very interesting. I believe that this will be the first canon post-Serenity story we have.

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Thursday, March 11, 2010 5:57 AM

ZEEK

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Originally posted by GWEK:
Very interesting. I believe that this will be the first canon post-Serenity story we have.

Is it signed sealed and approved canon by Joss? I don't see that anywhere. Joss might have let him write the comic, but that doesn't necessarily make it canon IMO.

Also it sounds like none of our crew is involved in the story. Except Wash of course. Sort of just a comic to explore Wash's past.

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Thursday, March 11, 2010 6:03 AM

GWEK

Well, it ain't fanfic.

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Thursday, March 11, 2010 7:21 AM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by Zeek:
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Originally posted by GWEK:
Very interesting. I believe that this will be the first canon post-Serenity story we have.

Is it signed sealed and approved canon by Joss? I don't see that anywhere. Joss might have let him write the comic, but that doesn't necessarily make it canon IMO.

Also it sounds like none of our crew is involved in the story. Except Wash of course. Sort of just a comic to explore Wash's past.

Seems a reach, given to think it's anything but. Joss has an ongoing relationship with the publisher. They're not going to do a story that's unsanctioned and risk loosing a relationship with a moneymaker.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, March 11, 2010 7:26 AM

ZEEK

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Seems a reach, given to think it's anything but. Joss has an ongoing relationship with the publisher. They're not going to do a story that's unsanctioned and risk loosing a relationship with a moneymaker.

Darkhorse publishes a bunch of Buffy comics that aren't in the season 8 series. They seem more like they're sanctioned but not canon to me.

George Lucas sanctions all the expanded universe books but he doesn't consider them canon. I don't think he's insulted by them either. They're not mutually exclusive.

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Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:11 AM

STORYMARK

Hmm, a fair point. But Star Wars and Buffy - which have a wealth of side material is not the same as Firefly/Serenity, which has a far more limited scope.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:04 AM

REENACT12321

IMO, someone above was right. It doesn't look like it involved our friends on Serenity directly, but introduces us to a cast of characters who knew Wash and are starting their own adventure. This sounds like the first canon (as I believe they wouldn't do this without Joss's approval) step to expanding the 'verse to new stories.

Which, as much as I love Mal and his crew, is a good thing. As long as there isn't an open channel to explore those stories in live action, I think Joss will only fumble around with back stories and filler material in the comics. If it were my brain child and had this amazing bond with the actors that worked so well together, it would be hard to push on very far in a non-acting medium such as comics. If you ask me he's hovering in the hopes a chance to resurrect the story with Nathan, Adam, Morena, Gina, Summer, Jewel and Sean arises.

This however, allows for characters to explore the 'verse without every really inhibiting the tales of Serenity. Unless the new crew manage to blow up a planet or his tales involve major upheavel in the alliance.

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Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:32 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:38 AM

GWEK

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Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Seems a reach, given to think it's anything but. Joss has an ongoing relationship with the publisher. They're not going to do a story that's unsanctioned and risk loosing a relationship with a moneymaker.

Darkhorse publishes a bunch of Buffy comics that aren't in the season 8 series. They seem more like they're sanctioned but not canon to me.

George Lucas sanctions all the expanded universe books but he doesn't consider them canon. I don't think he's insulted by them either. They're not mutually exclusive.

There's a big difference between Star Wars and Firefly. Star Wars is an industry, it's a machine. Firefly is, to a great extent, still one man's dream.

All the Star Wars novels, comics, video games, etc, ARE canon, but there's a whole structure of canon, with the movies on top. (In other words, it basically boils down to "You can assume everything you've read in the books is completely true, unless it conflicts with the movies; then, the movies win").

Although George Lucas does not personally approve every piece of Star Wars fiction, there's a whole section at LucasFilm that DOES.

Firefly, on the other hand, has been very personal for Joss. Although he hasn't written every word of it, he has been intimiately involved with every official product. If a Firefly/Serenity product comes out, I think it's safe to assume that Joss is aware of it and has sanctioned its content (therefore making it canon, at least for now).

The alternative is that Joss no longer cares enough about Firefly to worry about each story... which would mean the war is over and we lost. :(

EDIT:

This article is an interview with the artist:

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/03/10/exclusive-patric-reynolds-on-
the-art-of-serenity-float-out?icid=sphere_egotvonline_inline

I've only had time to skip it, but he notes that each page needed to be sent to 7 people for approval, and Joss was one of them. So, definitely on Joss's radar; definitely approved by Joss... that makes it canon.

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Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:10 AM

ZEEK

That definition of canon is just silly to me. "What you're reading is true unless it's not". Oh...great. What?

Either something is official and true or it's not IMO. I consider the expanded universe to be a whole different timeline than the movies. It's like a "what if" type of spin off to me. I never expect George Lucas to write anything with Han and Leia having twin children or using Mara Jade as a character. They're make believe to him.

It sounds to me like this comic might fall in the same realm. "Go ahead and create some characters who were old friends of Wash's. I'll never reference them in anything I have planned. So, go nuts." Obviously that's just a hunch. I haven't heard from Joss directly.

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Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:20 AM

GWEK

I'm simplifying the definition of canon, but it comes down to whether the work is essentially paid fanfic or not. If something is considered canon, it's not.

Please see the edit to my message above. If Joss is approving every page of artwork of this thing, he clearly cares about it. It's not a blow-off.

On the other hand, if the comic meets with success, it might be an opportunity for a spinoff comic and group of characters, which would allow folk to explore the 'Verse while still leaving the crew of Serenity untouched for the future.

Potentially, a very good approach.

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Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:34 AM

DMI

Expired, forgotten, spoiled rotten.

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Originally posted by Zeek:
They're make believe to him.

It's all make believe to everyone. Not to undermine your point, Zeek I agree with you. Canon or not, it's all fiction and you can choose to read or not to read and then to believe it fictionally "happened" or to ignore it. I don't know why scifi fans do this. People getting upset about the new Battlestar or the new Star Trek undermining the old. Both stories exist, as stories! I didn't like the new Trek so I choose to ignore it. I like both new and old Battlestar, I think of them as being different takes on the same story. No one argues about whether or not Bronte would have approved of Wide Sargasso Sea as canon in the Jane Eyre universe or not. Just read it and enjoy it. It's all fiction!

That said, I look forward to Patton Oswalt's comic.

I pray for one last landing,
on the globe that gave me birth.
Let me rest my eyes on the fleecy skies
and the cool, green hills of Earth.

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Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:52 AM

ZEEK

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Originally posted by DMI:
It's all make believe to everyone.

Haha ok that's true.

Either way it's good to have more officially published works in the Firefly/Serenity universe.

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Friday, March 19, 2010 2:03 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Shiny!

I am just happy to see a Serenity comic of any kind at this point since we get so little now.

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Friday, March 19, 2010 6:34 AM

STORYMARK

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
That definition of canon is just silly to me. "What you're reading is true unless it's not". Oh...great. What?

Either something is official and true or it's not IMO. I consider the expanded universe to be a whole different timeline than the movies. It's like a "what if" type of spin off to me. I never expect George Lucas to write anything with Han and Leia having twin children or using Mara Jade as a character. They're make believe to him.

Lucas has signed off on Mara Jade as officially pat of the universe - as he has on all the post film books. He's not directly involved with them, but he does have approval. It was his idea to kill Chewie, for one.

And think of it as silly if you like - it's still the way it is. That stuff is canon unless Lucas does something that contradicts it. But since he's made the only timeframes he wants to play in off limits to other writers, there's really very little chance of there being much conflict anymore.

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