This idea I have had for years and just need to share by Emmi

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This idea I have had for years and just need to share

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POSTED BY: EMMI
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 15:31
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Tuesday, April 20, 2010 3:44 AM

As a hardcore Firefly I have to admit I am STILL hardbroken over the lack of a second season. And a third, fourth, fifth season of course but I am not pushing it.

So for years now I have been playing with the idea of us fans 'producing' the series, rather than a ridiculous company like Fox. With producing I just mean providing the financial funds, of course. So what if this Utopian Idea were possible:

- Find out how much munney would be required for 1, 2, 3... etc episodes
(- Coordinate with Whedon & co)
- set up a Firefly trust fund / ' Firefly stocks' system
- get all fans to donate / buy Firefly stocks
- find sponsors to promote the project (myspace/facebook/blogs/whatever)
- As soon as there is enough funding (for say 6 episodes, there will be a minimum due to practicalities), Whedon & co will start filming
- When said episodes are ready, the rights belong exclusively to Whedon & co, so they can sell broadcast/dvd/merchandise rights to the highest bidder
- The returns on those first episodes go straight into the fund towards even more episodes!
- Should there be a lot of profit, perhaps the fans could be reimbursed

And voila, we have a series running without the money-sucking interference of a production company.

- Warning: I'm not of this world

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Tuesday, April 20, 2010 6:35 AM

BYTEMITE

Lots of people offer suggestions on how to do this, not to say that you don't have some good ideas.

The main obstacle in any effort is Fox and Universal right now, because both of them own the rights and neither of them want to let any official (funded, for-profit) projects go forward without their piece of the pie. So it's pretty much down to either buying the rights off them, and they don't seem interested in selling, or waiting to 2012 for Fox's rights to expire. Then Universal might be able to do something. But who knows if they do want to, considering how Serenity performed at the Box Office versus on DVD, lots of these people want big quick impressive numbers instead of a long-term stable investment with a franchise.

Anyway, it's not impossible, but there definitely are some hurdles.

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Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:08 AM

EMMI

Thanks, I didn't know Fox still had the rights. Seems like a silly thing to me, but then again a lot does.

As I said, it's a Utopian idea, and we don't live in a utopia... But in an ideal universe that would be more or less the way I'd try to organise it. ;)

When it comes down to it, however, all I care about is that we get more Firefly. How it's done doesn't matter too much. :)

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Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:54 AM

OUT2THEBLACK

EMMI , it's good to have you on the boat ; thanks for sharing your thoughts...

It's Folk like you that keep us flying , and will help us relight our Firefly !

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Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:05 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

Yeah Emmi, Byte is right, Fox owns the TV rights until 2012 (and believe me they will scuttle any attempt by another network unless they 'gets' paid - remember The Watchmen fiasco?).

I'm ever hopeful that, in 2012, some smart individual (are you listening Universal?) will pick up the ball and run with it. What with Nathan's continued success with Castle; Morena with V and Adam with Chuck, there will be name recognition and a reasonable amount of Star power to float that boat.

Anyways, one can dream.

Welcome aboard BTW.

SGG

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Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:13 AM

OPERATIVE1

We don't live in a utopian world, if it was Whedon would have the rights to Firefly(which I didn't know Fox had.)

Regardless of how the show would be brought back, the world is a little less shiny without it, it needs to be brought back. I need more Firefly, it was one of the few shows that worthy in it's weight in gold.

The powers that were or be unjustly cancelled it.

Operative1

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Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:26 AM

TWO

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Raising money and Fox's permission aren't the biggest problems. Time and Biology are bigger. Because of his prior acting commitment to Castle, Nathan Fillion can not be on The New Firefly unless you clone him. And while we're cloning people, Summer Glau's clone will need to be taken out of the oven early so she looks like she's seventeen, again, if she is going to be a convincing teenage telepathic ninja.

[ Postscript: Summer will be able to play telepathic when she's 70 and ninja when she's 50 but teenager? Maybe when she's 30, but not much older. So... we're gonna have to start filming The New Firefly sooner than later.]

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:08 AM

BYTEMITE

Aw, Summer still looks pretty young. In Dollhouse, she played Bennett, who was twenty something. She did some flashbacks where she was supposed to still be in college. River was seventeen in the series, and going on eighteen in the movies. She can pull it off.

People say Nathan is starting to look too old or out of shape, but I'm not seeing that either. I got into a big e-mail discussion about this, and I pointed out all the places Nathan has appeared while Castle has been in production, like conventions. Still looks like Nathan. I've concluded the problem isn't age or weight gain, he looks to be the same weight and unless he botoxes (I doubt it) his skin's fine. The problem, I think, is that for some reason they've made some really poor lighting and wardrobe choices over on the Castle set. Really makes him look worn out and haggard sometimes. He needs to start closing those jackets of his, because they make him look big around the middle, and he might want to consider growing his hair out just a half an inch or so. And maybe ask them to soften the lights up a bit, they may work at a police station in story but they don't have to look like they're under interrogation lights all the time!

So that's my take. Age a problem? Nah.

The prior commitments might be an issue, but if you did a few mini-series, might be able to get around that. Hey, didn't they film Dr. Horrible in like a few days? Schedule shooting for summer, put it out in the fall, bing bam, there you go.

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Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:20 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...

HI Emmi - nice to have you along!

Personally, I do think age is important, but not necessarily the physical look of the actors (although I do think that is pushing it), rather it's their maturity as actors. I think at this point it might feel like going backwards for them, they've grown and I'm sure they are keen for new challenges.
And don't think for a second they would say that, of course not! They don't want to break any Browncoat hearts! I just can't see career actors going backwards - too risky, makes it seem like they can't get work except as *that* character. It has the sad and dangerous potential of turning into parody. I would hate to see that.
I say bring in the new characters and new stories. Let new actors and writers (under Joss' direction/production) let loose on the 'Verse.

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Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:33 AM

BYTEMITE

Pizmo: This, I could see. To be honest, I kinda feel sorry about how in every interview they can expect to hear a question about Firefly come up. Much as I love the series, it must be tiring for them, to the point that it might taint the memories they have.

But, then, they did all come back for the movie, and that was a few years after the series ended. I hope they still feel the same way.

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Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:00 AM

EMMI

Thanks for the welcome, everyone :)

The age problem, if it is a problem at all, could easily be solved by moving forward in Firefly time as well. Like Indy 4, but less extreme. :) And yes, Whedon should have the rights. It reminds me of the Beatles rights...

But the issue at hand is that the world just needs more Firefly. Fact! Everyone I've ever spoken who knows Firefly actually starts glowing with happiness when I mention it. And I mean this literally! I live in Holland and I've spoken people from many countries - UK, France, Slovenia, Australia, America, Ireland - and they all start beaming as soon as they hear the word Firefly. :D No other series evokes this kind of joy, not even Doctor Who (with David Tennant) or Battlestar Galactica. And bloody hell, the imdb rating for Firefly is a big fat 9.5!!! (BSG got 9.0, Doctor Who 8.8) So how come Doctor Who is onto its 31st season and Battlestar got a full 4 (or 5) seasons?!

Well, a girl can always dream... and possibly bombard Universal with mail when the time is right ;)

- Warning: I'm not of this world

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Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:00 PM

FREMDFIRMA

I had always thought a rather good idea would be to tell the story a little differently...

I hadn't noticed so much at first, but after repeated watchings it occurs to me that while a lot of the stuff in Firefly came from the characters point of view - a great big chunk of it came from what you might call the ships point of view.

And it occured to me that perhaps, we could go and tell the story of the ship, say, found in the scrapyard after Mal and company have headed on to greener pastures, moved onward and upward, and some other poor down on his/her luck slob winds up taking to her, or maybe the story of before it wound up in that scrapheap and drew Mals eye.

The set would be relatively easy to duplicate, the verse and local "world" is already pre-set, and wide enough, variable enough, to always have an unknown, always have a story - and with a careful, light stroke, maybe a touch here and there, a reference to "that whole miranda scandal" or running across a young Patience... so long as they don't take a really *bad* idea from Star Drek and try to tie every plot into ever other one *eyeroll* - but I think Joss knows better.

There's so MANY untold stories in the verse Joss created, all we really *need* is a single viewpoint, just one window, through which to tell them - and the ship is most certainly that, whether or not our BDH's are on it.

Bonus: more BDH's and BigDamnVillains! - always a plus.

-F

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Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:45 PM

BYTEMITE

That's actually an idea I floated, that Nathan and the wardrobe department were doing it intentionally for the role.

The problem is, I think they're going too far! Richard Castle is supposed to be, wasn't it #9 on a NYC list of most eligible bachelors? He needs to LOOK it. The friend of mine who I was talking this over with actually called him FAT and said he looked like he has jowls! MUCH too much, if that's the impression the viewers are getting, you know?

And yes, Nathan looks much better in tighter weaves and fabrics. They don't call him Captain Tightpants for nuthin'.

Though that's also a great deal to do with the lighting in the castle apartment set at night being much softer, too, which is more flattering than the harsh daylight facsimile they do in, say, the precinct set. He doesn't look bad in the regular daylight, either, it's the harsh fake stuff washes him out and casts some unflattering shadows.

I'm sure Nathan wants to get some household name actor recognition level out of this, and he really needs to tell his people to make him look good. It's not like they don't have anything to work with, you know, they SHOULD be able to make him look good, as opposed to trying to make him look bad.

Especially since (selfish motivation ahoy) if Nathan LOOKS good, people don't question whether he can do more Firefly...

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Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:00 PM

BYTEMITE

Frem: If I have to take a new crew, I'd be happy to, really, though there's enough unresolved tidbits with the regular crew that I still want to see more of what happens to them.

If there has to be a reboot, heck, I'd even take that. But for me, the original actors coming back, no matter how pie in the sky that is, that's the most preferable outcome for me.

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Tuesday, April 20, 2010 3:31 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by Emmi:
Thanks, I didn't know Fox still had the rights. Seems like a silly thing to me, but then again a lot does.

As I said, it's a Utopian idea, and we don't live in a utopia... But in an ideal universe that would be more or less the way I'd try to organise it. ;)

When it comes down to it, however, all I care about is that we get more Firefly. How it's done doesn't matter too much. :)

I absolutely love the idea, regardless. I'd buy into it.

Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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