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They canceled Firefly! Why?
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:20 AM
LUTZI
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:30 AM
BYTEMITE
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:38 AM
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:46 AM
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:03 AM
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:55 AM
ZEEK
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:51 PM
SAFFRONSHUBBY
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:12 PM
STORYMARK
Quote:Originally posted by Lutzi: If "Lost" kept going for six years, there is no reason that Firefly couldn't have, or can't.
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:20 PM
TRAVELER
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:23 PM
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:54 PM
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:56 PM
MANGOLO
Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:14 PM
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:50 AM
BROWNCOAT1
May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.
Quote:Originally posted by Lutzi: Hello everybody. I am new here. I just got done watching the entire Firefly series. It was the best thing I have seen on TV. Sadly, I am actually mad that it was canceled, eight years ago! The graphics, writing everything is better than anything that is out there now!
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:12 AM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:LUTZI: They canceled Firefly! Why?
Quote:"'They're hurting us. Get me out!' The Government was playing with her brain. They opened up her skull and cut into her brain. The only reason you do that is to lobotomize somebody. They did it over, and over..." -Dr Simon Tam, Firefly, Arial "We need a program of psychosurgery for political control of our society. The purpose is physical control of the mind. Everyone who deviates from the given norm can be surgically mutilated. The individual may think that the most important reality is his own existence, but this is only his personal point of view. This lacks historical perspective. Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electrically control the brain. Some day armies and generals will be controlled by electrical stimulation of the brain." -Dr. Jose Delgado, Director of Neuropsychiatry, Yale University Medical School prof and CIA mind control scientist, Congressional Record, No 26, vol 118 February 24th, 1974 "Why not improve the brain? Perhaps in the future, we can attach a little version of Google that you plug into your brain. We'll have to develop stylish versions, but then you'll have all the world's knowledge immediately available, which is pretty exciting." -Sergey Brin, David Vise and Mark Malseed, The Google Story, page 292 "Mr. Chairman: In my letter to you of July 15, 1977, I reported our recent discovery of seven boxes of documents related to Project MKULTRA, a closely held CIA project conducted from 1953-1964. As you may recall, MKULTRA was an "umbrella project" under which certain sensitive subprojects were funded, involving among other things research on drugs and behavioral modification. During the Rockefeller Commission and Church Committee investigations in 1975, the cryptonym became publicly known when details of the drug-related death of Dr. Frank Olsen were publicized. In 1953 Dr. Olsen, a civilian employee of the Army at Fort Detrick, leaped to his death from a hotel room window in New York City about a week after having unwittingly consumed LSD administered to him as an experiment at a meeting of LSD researchers called by CIA. Most of what was known about the Agency's involvement with behavioral drugs during the investigations in 1975 was contained in a report on Project MKULTRA prepared by the Inspector General's office in 1963. As a result of that report's recommendations, unwitting testing of drugs on U.S. citizens was subsequently discontinued. The MKULTRA-related report was made available to the Church Committee investigators and to the staff of Senator Kennedy's Subcommittee on Health. Until the recent discovery, it was believed that all of the MKULTRA files dealing with behavioral modification had been destroyed in 1973 on the orders of the then retiring Chief of the Office of Technical Service, with the authorization of the DCI, as has been previously reported. Almost all of the people who had had any connection with the aspects of the project which interested Senate investigators in 1975 were no longer with the Agency at that time. Thus, there was little detailed knowledge of the MKULTRA subprojects available to CIA during the Church Committee investigations. The 1963 Inspector General report on MKULTRA made available to both the Church Committee and Senator Kennedy's Subcommittee mentions electro-shock and harassment substances (pp. 4, 16); covert testing on unwitting U.S. citizens (pp. 7, 10-12); the search for new materials through arrangements with specialists in universities, pharmaceutical houses, hospitals, state and federal institutions, and private research organizations (pp. 7, 9); and the fact that the Technical Service Division of CIA had initiated 144 subprojects related to the control of human behavior between 1953-1963 (p. 21)." -Admiral Stansfield Turner, Director of Central Intelligence, U.S. Senate Hearing on MKULTRA, 1973 www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1950/mkultra/index.htm "QKHILLTOP was a cryptonym assigned in 1954 to a project to study Chinese Communist brainwashing techniques and to develop interrogation techniques. Most of the early studies are believed to have been conducted by the Cornell University Medical School Human Ecology Study Programs. The effort was absorbed into the MKULTRA program and the QKHILLTOP cryptonym became obsolete." -U.S. Senate Hearing on MKULTRA, Appendix C, QKHILLTOP DEFINITION, 1973 www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1950/mkultra/AppendixC.htm "The concepts involved in manipulating behavior are found by many people both within and outside the Agency to be distasteful and unethical. Nevertheless, there have been major accomplishments both in research and operational employment. Over the ten-year life of the program many additional avenues to the control of human behavior have been designated under the MKULTRA charter, including radiation, electro-shock, and harassment substances. Some activities raise questions of legality implicit in the original charter. A final phase of the testing places the rights and interests of US citizens in jeopardy. Technical Services Division initiated a program for covert testing of materials on unwitting US citizens in 1955. TSD has pursued a philosophy of minimum documentation in keeping with the high sensitivity of the projects. Some files contained little or no data at all. There are just two individuals in TSD who have full knowledge of the MKULTRA program, and most of that knowledge is unrecorded." -MEMORANDUM FOR: Director of Central Intelligence FROM: CIA Inspector General, NB 108-113, 26 July 1963 www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrol#_ednref13 "If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, is it not possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without their knowing about it? The recent practice of propaganda has proved that it is possible, at least up to a certain point and within certain limits. The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind." -CIA agent Edward Bernays, Propaganda, Engineering of Consent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:15 AM
ANTEC85
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:15 PM
TEETHGRINDER
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:22 PM
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:37 PM
CHINDI
Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:43 PM
Quote:A TOAST TO THE "INDEPENDENT PRESS" "There is no such thing, at this date of the world's history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty_four hours my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes." -John Swinton, Labor's Untold Story, by Richard O. Boyer and Herbert M. Morais, published by United Electrical, Radio & Machine Workers of America, NY "Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. The hardest part of gaining any new idea is sweeping out the false idea occupying that niche. Most people can't think, most of the remainder won't think, the small fraction who do think mostly can't do it very well. The extremely tiny fraction who think regularly, accurately, creatively, and without self-delusion- in the long run these are the only people who count. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. A monarch's neck should always have a noose around it - it keeps him upright." —Robert A. Heinlein "You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them. The television, that insidious beast, that Medusa which freezes a billion people to stone every night, staring fixedly, that Siren which called and sang and promised so much and gave, after all, so little. I don't try to describe the future. I try to prevent it." -Ray Bradbury Abbie Bernstein: Do you believe a government can be shamed into or out of what it's doing by the actions of individuals? Joss Whedon: The idea was to say that people can make a difference, they can show the wrongs that are being done. They can speak out against them and make people aware of them. They can even create giant scandals. Sometimes they can topple governments. The point is that the truth is always more important than the power structure, and whether you make a dent or not, the fact that you succeeded in trying is a victory. -Serenity - The Official Visual Companion, page 35
Friday, May 14, 2010 7:36 AM
JAMERON4EVA
Friday, May 14, 2010 9:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by jameron4eva: Quote:Originally posted by Lutzi: Hello everybody. I am new here. I just got done watching the entire Firefly series. It was the best thing I have seen on TV. Sadly, I am actually mad that it was canceled, eight years ago! The graphics, writing everything is better than anything that is out there now! Don't forget, these were the people who cancelled Dark Angel, and TSCC. Mind you TSCC had Summer Glau, and DA had Jessica Alba. The twp best actresses in the Biz. SCrew Angelina Jolie-Pitt. "Mom, he has her chip. He has her." John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22
Friday, May 14, 2010 7:09 PM
SHINYGOODGUY
Saturday, May 15, 2010 9:44 AM
LOOKING4RAMA
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