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The Pacific & Serenity Valley

POSTED BY: ZZETTA13
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 04:43
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Monday, May 17, 2010 3:10 AM

ZZETTA13


Good morning fellow browncoats

I don’t think that this, or something like it has been posted here recently on FFF.net I just watched the conclusion of the tv series “The Pacific” last night and although it was different from “BOB” it still was an emotional rollercoaster of the events of war during WW2. The reason I’m putting this here is because if others on the board have seen the show then I would request them to consider that the battles on Peleliu and Owkinawa could be considered equivalent to what Joss had in mind for his vision of Serenity Valley. How can someone not be affected by such horrible scenes of carnage and destruction? I for one think they can not.

Is this the kind of thing Sgt Reynolds and Zoe witnessed during their extended experiences in the war? If so it explains a lot about the characters of Malcolm Reynolds and Zoe. It reveals how the Captain is able to withstand torture, how he is able to make snap decisions that seem heartless, how he’s able to command and distribute discipline to his band of merry marauders with what sometimes seems emotionless effort, and how he can distribute punishment ( shooting Jayne out of the airlock) when it becomes necessary.

Although Joss didn’t have time to explore much of the war of the “Independence Conflict” I’m sure scenes like these played in his head while developing the characters of Captain Reynolds and Zoe. Maybe even Shepherd Book may have had his own short run 2 or 3 episode explanation of what the war might have done to him had the story continued. Who knows?

Z



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Monday, May 17, 2010 8:00 AM

STEGASAURUS


So how did you feel about the part in (I think it was Episode 6 or 7) when they stop, and you hear the "Plop! Plop!" only to find out one of the Marines is tossing stones into the half-empty brain pan of the dead Japanese soldier?

At first I was like "Meh..." but after it kept continuing and the more I dwelled upon it, the more I shifted to "bleh"

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Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:43 AM

ZZETTA13


Well Steg!!

I was not surprised. The atrocities committed on both sides of the Pacific Conflict were likely many and terrible. The dehumanizing of the enemy is one of the mental goals brought about in combat training. This was set up by the first scene where SNAFU digs out the gold tooth from the dead enemy body.

One thing I have to give to the creators of a show like “ The Pacific” is the sugar coating of what war really is, has been somewhat diminished. The realities and confusion of what takes place in battle, and it’s aftermath are more realized by what one sees on the screen.

“ The Pacific” was the recorded account of three marines that were participants of that horrible time of war. One can at least feel a bit of pride in Sledges’ capability to remain human and not completely revert to being an animal in such conditions. Though for a time it looks as if humankind can become that way.

Great show! I hope that we’ve learned something.

Z


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