Imponderables: Mmm, you know you want it. BACON!!! by nvghostrider

I find it creepy that the guy does not know his age. All he has to do is look at his driver license. Or he may not want them to see his driver licence because it has his real name and address on it.

http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
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Thursday, May 13, 2010 11:42 AM

BORIS

Hey MSa I hear what you are saying...and given that I was 8 and at that time my Aspergic tendencies were "un-managed" you may be right...but to me the pig knew what was going on and the incident has left a profound and persistent impression on me...and I talk to pigs whenever I meet em.

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Thursday, May 13, 2010 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by traveler:
I find it creepy that the guy does not know his age. All he has to do is look at his driver license. Or he may not want them to see his driver licence because it has his real name and address on it.

He was joking around, but I think it basically amounts to "way older than you baby". Considering the upper end went to 40, I'd say he's somewhere in his 40's meaning he's at least 10 years older then her and potentially 20 years older. 20 years is is a really big gap IMO. Especially when dating someone who's in their 20's.

Though I don't think anybody at the radio show thought it would be a good potential relationship. They just think she needs to start dating and get the ball rolling.

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Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:06 PM

I always thought it was the guys who were shy. I remeber going to middle school dances and the guys would just huddle against the wall while the girls danced with each other. None of the guys wanted to be first to ask a girl to dance.

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Friday, May 14, 2010 3:51 AM

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Originally posted by traveler:
I always thought it was the guys who were shy. I remeber going to middle school dances and the guys would just huddle against the wall while the girls danced with each other. None of the guys wanted to be first to ask a girl to dance.

Our dances in grade school were really interesting. I don't know how the dynamic spontaneously happened, but during fast songs the guys would mill around and talk with each other and the girls would pretty much be the only ones dancing. The second a slow song got put on it was like a big game of musical chairs. Everybody tried to find someone to dance with and you didn't want to be the only ones left on the sideline. Guys would ask girls to dance. Girls would ask guys. Didn't matter. You just had to find someone.

Oh and when they called last dance you always tried to find the girl you really had a crush on. Ah grade school.

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Friday, May 14, 2010 6:26 AM

Date situation: Totally unsafe and creepy. 'Course I'm perpetually suspicious and maybe slightly paranoid. I would NEVER go the home of someone I just met alone. I have done so with a friend, however. You know, safety in numbers.

Cooking dinner for someone is intimate and not a first date thing. It's a "we've been seeing each other for at least a month" thing.

Additional creepers that this guy doesn't know his age? WTF is that? This isn't the turn of the century when birth records were spotty. He's hiding something whether it be a traumatic past, or a wee bit 'o' crazy. I would never go out with him...let alone to his apt. What a sketcher.

They couldn't come up with someone better for this DJ? She's in her early 20s and they pick someone who is close to 40? Oy. There's got to be someone more suitable for her out there.

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Friday, May 14, 2010 6:52 AM

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They couldn't come up with someone better for this DJ? She's in her early 20s and they pick someone who is close to 40? Oy. There's got to be someone more suitable for her out there.

Of course but I mean she's just a radio DJ. I'm totally out of her league.

So, further creepiness (at least in my book). I was telling the story to my friend and she has a friend from college who's a chef. She says that he told her lots of chefs are drug addicts. He says the work long and odd hours and it's pretty common for them to turn to drugs to keep up with it. I so hope that's not true. I really don't want some drug addict preparing my food. For her situation though it's just another reason to play it safe.

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Friday, May 14, 2010 7:13 AM

Zeek, you definitely gotta let us know how the date goes. I'm all interested now.

It also makes me wonder what the girls problem is actually. She went out and could only get the attention of a creepy 40 year old?

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Friday, May 14, 2010 8:45 AM

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It also makes me wonder what the girls problem is actually. She went out and could only get the attention of a creepy 40 year old?

Well, getting attention and knowing how to turn that attention into a date is something else entirely. Ask me how I know. :D

Because of my cautious and suspicious nature, I have a really hard time just meeting someone and then being ready to spend time with them. I should just be like 'yeah...let's go do something', but my approach is usually 'are you worth my time' and that doesn't work so well when you barely know someone. If there's a connection right away, I'm willing. If not, I have to talke myself into going out. :D

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Friday, May 14, 2010 10:34 AM

I take that approach too RugBug. I'm also quick to determine someone's not worth my time.

Anyway I've learned a lot more about the situations while looking for updates on their blog. First off it looks like this is not her first date ever. The first date thing they were harping on is that they're getting her to go on 10 dates in 10 days with 10 different guys. The reason being that they read people find "the one" after an average of 30 people. They say she's way short of that average so they want to knock 10 out of the way rapid fire. So, "first date" was first of the 10. Anyway first date still hasn't happened. She's out of town right now apparently. We'll see if chef guy chops her up and stores her body in his freezer after next update I guess. :-)

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Friday, May 14, 2010 11:39 AM

Then she is actually wasting their time. She is not really looking for someone as much as showing she can get 10 dates in so many days.

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Friday, May 14, 2010 12:01 PM

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Then she is actually wasting their time. She is not really looking for someone as much as showing she can get 10 dates in so many days.

Not necessarily. It's kinda like medium speed dating. They all probably have some chance, but it's like less than 10%. Cause it's possible none out of the ten will get a second date.

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Friday, May 14, 2010 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by traveler:
Then she is actually wasting their time. She is not really looking for someone as much as showing she can get 10 dates in so many days.

Nyah...I don't think it's that at all. Just if someone isn't going out with people, the chances of meeting someone is low. Besides, the people who are willing to be set up like this probably aren't the keepers, but it will get this girl more willing to go out.

A situation like this would probably help me. I HATE dating. Abhor it. If I had to go out on 10 dates for some stupid stunt, I would probably be a little more comfortable with going out.

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Friday, May 14, 2010 12:31 PM

As a man, if I ask a woman out it is because I am looking for something permanent and not speed dateing.

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Friday, May 14, 2010 1:49 PM

Well that's not as fun as it being her first date ever with mister creeps.

I'm a bit a commitment phobe so the whole "permanent" thing is enough to have me running far far away in the opposite direction.

However if this magic number being 30 thing is true, I myself under par as well.

I guess some would say relates to the commitment problem.

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Monday, May 17, 2010 4:34 AM

I'd actually consider dating this chick as one of her 10 guys. It takes the pressure off IMO. If you like her and she likes you then awesome. If not it's no big deal.

If I ask someone out that I'm really interested in then there's a lot of pressure for things to go well.

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Monday, May 17, 2010 6:57 AM

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As a man, if I ask a woman out it is because I am looking for something permanent and not speed dateing.

Well, that's optimum..but in some situations it becomes difficult to find someone you might want something permanent with. Just getting out there gets you on the path to meeting someone.

For instance, the last time I met someone I was interested in was about two years ago. The last time I met someone new that was available (and that's not even discussing any sort of attraction/compatibility/potential...just single and of an acceptable age) was a few months ago. If I average "available" abot 3 times a year and "potential" once every two years...I really could use some help in upping those numbers. Going out with more availables increases the odds of meeting a "potential" and that's what the whole radio things is playing with (and trying to make some funny on-air talk, because what's funnier than horrible first dates?).

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Monday, May 17, 2010 8:20 AM

MSA

ok never fail cooking for a date

Appetizer
Hot crab dip with crackers

1 package cream cheese
1 cup sour cream
2 tbs horseradish
1 tbs worcherstershire sauce
1 cup shelled lump crab meat

Mix everything together bake at 350 degrees for 20 minutes:)

Impressive Chicken Pot pie
2 cups cooked chicken chopped ( you can just buy a rotissery chicken and cut tha tup)
1 cup potatos diced into small 1/4 inch chuncks
1 1/2 cups mixed vegetables ( the kind with peas, carrots,and corn)
1/2 cup chopped green onions
1 can cream of mushroom soup with roasted carlic
1 cup heavy cream
2 tsp salt
1 tbs crushed red pepper flakes
1 packaged puff pastry sheets

Mix everything except the puff pastry sheets in a big bowl and pour into a casserole dish. Put in the oven and bake 350 degrees for 20 minutes. Cut the puff pastery so it covers the whole top of the baking dish then cut a small circle in the center. Put it on top of the partially baked casserole and put it in the oven 350 degrees for 30-40 minutes until the top is golden brown ( it looks liks a total pro job:)

Also buy a bag of salad to serve with it:)

Dessert
Lemon Fluff Pie

1 cup lemon curd ( you can buy it in the jam isle
1 package of cream cheese
1 cup ricotta cheese
1/2 cup sweetened condensed milk
juice and zest of one lemon
one premade graham cracker crust
whipped cream ( the real kind)

Mix the cream cheese, lemon curd, juice of th lemon and sweetened condensed milk with a mixer until super creamy. Pour into pie shell. Top with whipped cream. Grate teh lemon zest on top of the whipped cream ( and if you want some contrast also grate a lime zest on to it)

Since everything is " homemade" it's super impressive and seems like you spent all day cooking

ooh good ponder.. what things are you super conscious of during a first date

Me- I try really really hard not to talk too much

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, May 17, 2010 8:55 AM

The DJ date thing isn't quite as fun now we know it's not just random creepies on a first ever first date... but you should still keep us abreast of any interesting developments.

Also MSA, the recipe has been copied with the rest. I don't eat half the fancy things you come up with, but it can't hurt to have them handy.

As for the ponder... I wouldn't know yet, I guess I'll have to get back to you on that one.

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Monday, May 17, 2010 11:11 AM

The date is tonight. If the news is talking about a missing radio host tomorrow morning I get to say "I told you so".

Sounds like she's going all out with one of the dates. An olympic gold medal swimmer apparently is in the talks. Another date is a fireman. They sure found a good way to fill up their show.

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Monday, May 17, 2010 11:21 AM

Ooooh a swimmer?? Sounds niiiice

I could have a go at the fireman too.

As for the ponder, hmm. I guess to relate to the talking too much MsA mentioned, I don't talk enough. But see, I don't have a problem with periods of silence that other people do. I can sit there and eat a meal in silence and feel fine, not awkward at all. I wouldn't even take it as a bad date, just moments of thinking.

I've noticed it makes other people squirm though.

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Monday, May 17, 2010 12:08 PM

Super conscious of on a first date?

Ugh. Everything. I HATE dating. Biggest is probably not having anything to say. My idea of a worst first date every is dinner or coffee, or whatever. I want to DO something: hike, play a sport, etc. Then the conversation just flows better...and if you don't have anything to say...or aren't hitting it off...at least you're doing something instead of awkwardly avoiding eye contact. etc.

Oh...and I worry about blushing. I blush. A. Lot. I blush so much it almost makes me blush.

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Monday, May 17, 2010 12:16 PM

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I could have a go at the fireman too.

One DJ asked how she met him and the other one quickly quipped that she walked outside after work and lit her car on fire and waited. I thought it was pretty good joke.

As for the first date thing the only thing I get nervous about is how much chauvinism girls want. I hate it cause it's such a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. Open the car door when you pick them up? Pull out their chair for them when you get to the restaurant? Even getting the door can be awkward when there are two doors. You can get the first but then do you double time it after holding the first one to try to get to the other door in time. Argh!

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Tuesday, May 18, 2010 3:38 AM

So, I guess they've been following fff.net. They reworked the date. Now instead of going to his place she just did a lunch date at one of the hotel restaurants. The only thing that the chef prepared was the salad. She got to choose whatever she wanted in it. Sounds kinda lame if you're dating a chef.

I'm more amazed that she recorded the whole date. They gave her a hard time for saying a lot of negative things about herself. She said stuff like "I shouldn't eat so much I'm getting fat" (she sure doesn't look fat on their website), "I don't date much", and stuff like that. They really thought she blew it. They told her she needed a new haircut. They even got a psychiatrist calling in saying she'd give her a few free sessions to help her out with her self esteem.

Is it just me or did they just cut her down completely? If she had even minor self esteem issues they just destroyed her. Her hair is fine IMO.

http://www.mix947.com/pages/4799151.php?#sara

I just don't see the point of telling her she blew it if you think she's nervous or self conscious. Be nice. Tell her some things she did well. Then give her a few pointers. Anyway it should be fun to follow for the rest of the week. Today she tried to get some dates with local news anchors. She named a few and the first to call gets a date. lol

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Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:33 AM

I don't know which one she is, but all the girls look fine on the website.

I can see both sides of the problematic first date though. You don't want to be around someone who is constantly putting themselves down, but it does sound like they overwhelmed her with advice at the end, especially to have a psychiatrist call.

The chef making a salad is ridiculous. I'd be majorly disappointed with that. However, if they asked me what I wanted on it I'd just say a sirloin steak, some crab legs and garlic mashed potatoes. Hey! you said I could have whatever I wanted in it!

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Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:00 AM

She's cute! What the heck on the hair comments...she's got great hair in that picture (Sara, right?). Maybe she's changed it since then or didn't do it well.

Zeek: It's called chilvary, not chauvinism. :D And I think you should do as much as YOU want to do. That way, if she thinks you're a misogynist because you do too much or too little, well then, you know she's not a good fit for who you really are.

My last date was with a car salesman, he proceeded to tell me how they profile potential customers. Ways to approach Asians, Hispanics, if it's a couple, talk to the man, etc. The add'l comments that went along with the sales strategies where "eek" I was done within 10 minutes of hearing that crap. Thankfully, I wasn't feeling well that night anyway, so right after dinner I was like 'see ya.'

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Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:06 AM

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She's cute! What the heck on the hair comments...she's got great hair in that picture (Sara, right?). Maybe she's changed it since then or didn't do it well.

Zeek: It's called chilvary, not chauvinism. :D And I think you should do as much as YOU want to do. That way, if she thinks you're a misogynist because you do too much or too little, well then, you know she's not a good fit for who you really are.

Yep the #sara should have worked. But yeah the hair seems fine to me. They say it's too plain.

But I don't care about those things. Doing them won't bother me or not doing them won't bother me.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:15 AM

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Originally posted by RugBug:
Zeek: It's called chilvary, not chauvinism.

This is true, but I think in the spirit of the current conversation, that doing it his way would make for a better horrible first date story.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:36 AM

True Navy, true. I suppose the best stories would be from the worst behaviour. So decide what you want out of the date (good story or good date) and then act accordingly. You could be surprised that your good story behaviour ended up being a good date and your good date behaviour ended up being a good story.

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Originally posted by RugBug:
She's cute! What the heck on the hair comments...she's got great hair in that picture (Sara, right?). Maybe she's changed it since then or didn't do it well.

Zeek: It's called chilvary, not chauvinism. :D And I think you should do as much as YOU want to do. That way, if she thinks you're a misogynist because you do too much or too little, well then, you know she's not a good fit for who you really are.

But I don't care about those things. Doing them won't bother me or not doing them won't bother me.

Then do what you want to do...what feels right. don't overthink it.

for me personally, I want you to:
1. Unlock my car door first and open the door for me to get in. (I will reciprocate and reach over and unlock your door for you as you go around). On the flipside, DO NOT make me wait in the car while you get out to run around and open the door for me to get out. That drives me nuts.
2. Open doors to business for me...if it's a double door, I only need one opened, thank you very much. I'm pretty sure I'm not wide enough to need them both open. If I am, I'm probably not going out with you anyway. I also expect you to open the door for any other women that are on their way in or out at the same time..or even a man whose hands are full. It's not just how you treat me...it's how you treat everyone.
3. Pulling out the chair? Eh...it's nice when we first sit down, but not necessary. I do think it's adorable when the guy does the little 'stand up' if I get up to leave the table. 'Course that's just on the first few dates. I don't mind if it falls by the wayside at all. I do mind about the doors, however. :D

There are a few other bonus point things (hand on the small of my back "leading" me into a room, etc). But really it's about doing what makes you feel comfortable and natural. If it's awkward for you, it's awkward for her, not matter how she feels about the topic.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2010 10:04 AM

See! See! You have your own set of rules. That's nerve racking.

Besides my car locks have a remote :-P

I really don't understand the thing were people stand up when a woman gets up from a table. What's it for? They just sit right back down anyway.

Silly rules like this annoy me because they don't follow and pattern and they're different for everyone. What a pain.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2010 11:24 AM

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See! See! You have your own set of rules. That's nerve racking.

Besides my car locks have a remote :-P

I really don't understand the thing were people stand up when a woman gets up from a table. What's it for? They just sit right back down anyway.

Silly rules like this annoy me because they don't follow and pattern and they're different for everyone. What a pain.

They're not rules. They're more like guidelines, actually. :D They're not dealbreakers.

I will say, though, that parents need to be teaching their children better manners. I want to regularly smack some college students upside their heads...and it's gotten worse and worse. Show some respect, people. Not just to your elders...but to everyone.

But the point is, what do you do for Jane or John Doe. If you make it to the door at the same time as a woman, do you hold the door for her? If there is one a step behind you, what about her? A man with full hands? THAT is what you should be doing on a date. THAT is what is natural for you. If it pisses her off...she's not the right person for you.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2010 11:58 AM

Those darn kids and their loud music!

I don't stand back and hold the door to let a random woman go in before me as it is. I'll hold it enough so that it's still open when they get there, but I'm not letting them in first. Doesn't matter if it's a man or woman if their carrying stuff though. Then I'd hold the door.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:14 PM

I'll hold the door for folks, male or female old or young at anytime. Not just on a date. It's just good manners not to let it slam on someone coming behind you, or to watch someone struggling with it on their own if opening it requires a bit more strength than they have.

The rest of the chivalry stuff I'm not so sure about. Probably wouldn't do the car door thing, mine is by remote too, I never understood holding the chair, that just seems to make it more difficult to be properly seated.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by Zeek:

I don't stand back and hold the door to let a random woman go in before me as it is. I'll hold it enough so that it's still open when they get there, but I'm not letting them in first. Doesn't matter if it's a man or woman if their carrying stuff though. Then I'd hold the door.

Then there's your answer. If you don't do it for someone else, why would you do it for a date? Be who you are. Personally, I might want to smack you upside the head for not holding the door, but we're not going on a date. In my world view...it's the polite thing to do...carrying stuff or not. ;)

Just recently there were four college kids setting off on a road-trip. They were getting snacks for the ride at the 7-Eleven while I was getting my weekend ritual Mountain Dew (yum!). Two were annoying at the door...but then, to top it off, they were parked right next to me. They took for-freakin'-ever to get into the car...even knowing I was standing there waiting to get into my car. Dipwads. They definitely need a smack upside the head.

Navy - you're Scottish, right? Have you heard of Frightened Rabbit?

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Tuesday, May 18, 2010 1:01 PM

This makes me think of one time I was in a parking lot and there was a lady and her baby getting into her minivan next to me. When I got in the car my windows were fogged up so I was waiting for them to clear before I went. Besides she had her baby in a stroller behind her van. Meaning when I was pulling out I'd be swinging my car that way. Not my favorite idea. It took at least a couple minutes for my windows to defrost and she finally got her kid and was strapping it in. So, I started to back out and she flipped out. She bolted up and looked at me shaking her head and talking away. I really have no idea what she was so upset about. The two cars were not close together. There was no way I was going to run over her foot or something. Even if there was I'd been sitting there for 2 minutes. How long does she think I'm going to wait around for her to get in her car? I could see her being upset if her kid was still in a stroller behind me but not when the kid was already in the car.

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Tuesday, May 18, 2010 3:13 PM

Cars are like the original internet. You can scream at people and most often they don't realise it and other times it makes absolutly no sense. I come home, turn on my computer, and click on some piece of news and start reading the comments people post on the article. It is the same thing. They end up yelling at each other like it has any meaning. No one knows who you are or what you're really yelling about. It is just a new type of entertainment.

http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler

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Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:37 PM

Comments on news articles are the worst. I always decided if I was a villain I'd use that as a form of torture. Make people read and listen to comments like that.

I admit I have a bit of road rage though, some people need to be sworn at.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:25 AM

FREELANCERTEX

I love that analogy, Traveler XD

on the DJ date: I don't have much to say on the matter as I don't listen to the talk part of radio much, but I don't think they should have dumped on her so much if it was her first time really trying the date scene. If she had any confidence at all about it, they probably completely shot it down with their criticism.

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Originally posted by RugBug: parents need to be teaching their children better manners. I want to regularly smack some college students upside their heads...and it's gotten worse and worse. Show some respect, people.

Seconded, even though I'm not a parent. My mother drilled the importance of manners into us growing up, and I've noticed many of my peers seem to lack both manners and patience these days. Is it really that hard to spare two seconds to hold a door for someone? Or to say thank you if someone holds the door for you?

My biggest pet peeve is the handicap button that automatically opens doors. I *always* see people (mostly college age kids) with completely empty hands and two perfectly working legs slap the button and walk through because they're too damn lazy to grab the handle and open the door themselves. I'm sorry, is the door too heavy for you? Do you need mommy to help?

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:14 AM

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Originally posted by freelancertex:
My biggest pet peeve is the handicap button that automatically opens doors. I *always* see people (mostly college age kids) with completely empty hands and two perfectly working legs slap the button and walk through because they're too damn lazy to grab the handle and open the door themselves. I'm sorry, is the door too heavy for you? Do you need mommy to help?

Yeah that one's annoying. The other one I'm annoyed by is perfectly capable people using the handicap stalls in the restroom. At work I know we have some handicap people in our building and people have meetings on all different floors. So, it's not like there's no chance someone who's handicap is going to need it. I really wonder how the stare down goes if the handicap person has to wait and a person just comes walking out. Must be brutal.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 5:49 AM

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Originally posted by RugBug:
Navy - you're Scottish, right? Have you heard of Frightened Rabbit?

I had to google it, I've never heard them though.

As for the driving, I think everyone has a little road rage in them. You've got to complain about the other drivers, it's a rule. And I'll confess, than if there is only a disabled cubicle available when I enter a bathroom, I'll take it. Some times folks with functioning legs gotta wait to pee too. It's not the end of the world.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 6:02 AM

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My biggest pet peeve is the handicap button that automatically opens doors. I *always* see people (mostly college age kids) with completely empty hands and two perfectly working legs slap the button and walk through because they're too damn lazy to grab the handle and open the door themselves. I'm sorry, is the door too heavy for you? Do you need mommy to help?

Yeah that one's annoying. The other one I'm annoyed by is perfectly capable people using the handicap stalls in the restroom. At work I know we have some handicap people in our building and people have meetings on all different floors. So, it's not like there's no chance someone who's handicap is going to need it. I really wonder how the stare down goes if the handicap person has to wait and a person just comes walking out. Must be brutal.

Heh...I use the handicap stall all time. All.The.Time. If we didn't here at work, we'd have three stalls for 80 people. I'd also probably be stepping in the toilet when I changed at work each afternoon to go out to the barn. Our regular stalls are tiny. My take on the situation is that the stall doesn't have to be immediately available if a handicapped person comes into the bathroom. They can wait a minute and when the person occupying the stall comes out...the handicapped person goes in immediately...line or no line. No harm, no foul, IMO.

I also don't have a ton of a problem with the door openers being used by non-handicap people. I think it's lazy and a waste of time (those things tend to open the door very slowly) for the able-bodied, but it doesn't bother me that they use it.

Parking spaces are a different matter ENTIRELY, however.

Navy - I was at home last night and I had this moment of "D'uh! I already asked him that." Old age sure is rough.

As for driving: I wouldn't say I have road rage, as in I don't act on anything...but I will tell someone off a bit in the confines of my car. I might even flip someone off, which has unfortunately sparked others to enact their rage on me. I had one car just stop in front of me. On a VERY busy street. They just sat there "teaching me a lesson." I so wish a cop had been close. They had massively cut me off, I flipped 'em off and then they stopped...for like a minute. It was a total temper tantrum. Thankfully I can usually tell the psychos that are going to do something ridiculous like get in front of me and slam on their brakes...and I never have the urge to challenge them at that point. I just back off and let them pitch their hissy fit with a ton of steel to back them up. Nimrods.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 6:06 AM

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Originally posted by Navyseils:
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Originally posted by RugBug:
Navy - you're Scottish, right? Have you heard of Frightened Rabbit?

I had to google it, I've never heard them though.

As for the driving, I think everyone has a little road rage in them. You've got to complain about the other drivers, it's a rule. And I'll confess, than if there is only a disabled cubicle available when I enter a bathroom, I'll take it. Some times folks with functioning legs gotta wait to pee too. It's not the end of the world.

oh yeah if the other stalls were occupied that's fine. I might have seen a situation like that about twice in the 6 and a half years I've worked here.

What I'm talking about is all the stalls are open and the person uses the handicap one. I can't decide if they just like the extra space or if they're germophobes who think it gets less use and is therefore cleaner or what they're thinking.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 6:12 AM

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oh yeah if the other stalls were occupied that's fine. I might have seen a situation like that about twice in the 6 and a half years I've worked here.

What I'm talking about is all the stalls are open and the person uses the handicap one. I can't decide if they just like the extra space or if they're germophobes who think it gets less use and is therefore cleaner or what they're thinking.

I use it even if the other stalls are open. A handicapped person can wait one minute for a stall just like anyone else. If there was a handicapped person there before me, I would never go in before them. But if I was there first, with no handicapped person in sight and the stall was open...despite there being other stalls open...I just might use the handicapped stall

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 6:56 AM

I don't act on my road rage, thats just crazy talk. I like to be alive.

I've used the handicapped doors too, that's when my friend yells "its for the PHYSICALLY disabled, not the mentally disabled!!" Fun times...

The bathroom thing doesn't bother me either, I'm with you rugbug, I just use whatever is open, if its a handicapped one, so be it.

I have issues with public bathrooms on the whole anyways. I tend to put it off if I can until I get home. Anyone else have those weird ocd tendencies towards public facilities? Like even though I don't like to use them, I'm not one of those people that opens the door with the paper towel.. I think thats odd.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:06 AM

Haha I totally open the door with the paper towel. I've seen way way way too many guys walk right out without washing their hands. So disgusting.

Edit: Just think about that thought the next time you want a guy to put his hand on the small of your back, Rugbug.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:12 AM

MSA

WOW how did we get from first dates to handicapped stalls?? and is there a connection?

I agree as long as there isn't a handicapped person waiting before you, using that stall is no biggie. See in the mens room you have twice as many bathrooms because you have the urinals....so basically unless they make twices as many womens bathrooms as men, it's inherently a much longer wait for the women's bathroom... hence the frequent use of the handicapped stall that might not be in as much use in the men's room

Also, when changing clothes in the bathroom it's a much better space...
Hey there's a question ...I know lots of women who bringa change of clothes to work for a variety of reasons...is the same true of men??

ok Zeek I hear that.. I wish there was some sort of warning flasher light that would go off if people tried to do that. I mean come on we all learned to do that in pre-school

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:16 AM

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WOW how did we get from first dates to handicapped stalls?? and is there a connection?

I agree as long as there isn't a handicapped person waiting before you, using that stall is no biggie. See in the mens room you have twice as many bathrooms because you have the urinals....so basically unless they make twices as many womens bathrooms as men, it's inherently a much longer wait for the women's bathroom... hence the frequent use of the handicapped stall that might not be in as much use in the men's room

Also, when changing clothes in the bathroom it's a much better space...
Hey there's a question ...I know lots of women who bringa change of clothes to work for a variety of reasons...is the same true of men??

I still don't understand. Isn't this the whole manners thing? You have a choice between a regular stall and a handicap stall and you pick the handicap? You're basically saying that a handicap person now potentially has to wait for no reason. That seems like it could go in the dictionary under rude.

I've brought a change of clothes to work on extremely rare occasions. I would not want to change in the bathroom on a regular basis. It may be that women are cleanlier than men, but the guy's bathroom tends to be disgusting. You don't want to set clothes down on ANY surface. So, unless you can juggle and change at the same time it's probably a bad idea.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:27 AM

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I still don't understand. Isn't this the whole manners thing? You have a choice between a regular stall and a handicap stall and you pick the handicap? You're basically saying that a handicap person now potentially has to wait for no reason. That seems like it could go in the dictionary under rude.

I'm only saying that a handicap person may not be able to go directly into a stall when they first arrive, but they will be the next one for that stall. It's not like a stall is occupied for hours on end. Unless someone lacks fiber in their diet, a stall is occupied for two minutes (long)or so. That's not a ridiculous amount of time to wait....for anyone. They aren't waiting for no reason, they are waiting like most other people wait at some point or another...and actually waiting less time because they automatically go to the head of the line (rightly so).

'Course i'm also of the opinion that if all stalls were handicap accessible, then everyone waits the same, even if there were 20 people in line. We send handicapped people to the front fo the line because there is usually only one stall that they can use, whereas non-handicapped have a lot more options. Being handicapped doesn't make you unable to wait at all nor does it make you incontinent (if it does, you usually aren't using a stall anyway but rather have that equipment already attached.) It just narrows your options...and therefore accomodations are appropriate.

Basically, the handicapped stall doesn't have to be taken out of rotation just because at some point a handicapped person might be there to use it. As long as they are the next one it...no matter if there is a line or not, no harm, no foul. ;)

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Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:44 AM