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Originally posted by Wagneraude:
Bear with me here for a second.

Now, we all know Mal is atheistic, or at least rejects god, but in the pilot, we see him holding a cross, which means that at some point before the war he was Christian. But, at the end of Trash, as Wash walks away with Zoe, and I cannot believe I just heard this, Wash says "Zoe, He's Jewish". Is this just a throwaway comment or an actual possibility as to Mal's religion?

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Originally posted by Wagneraude:
Bear with me here for a second.

Now, we all know Mal is atheistic, or at least rejects god, but in the pilot, we see him holding a cross, which means that at some point before the war he was Christian. But, at the end of Trash, as Wash walks away with Zoe, and I cannot believe I just heard this, Wash says "Zoe, He's Jewish". Is this just a throwaway comment or an actual possibility as to Mal's religion?

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Originally posted by Wagneraude:
Bear with me here for a second.

....at the end of Trash, as Wash walks away with Zoe, and I cannot believe I just heard this, Wash says "Zoe, He's Jewish". Is this just a throwaway comment or an actual possibility as to Mal's religion?

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Originally posted by Wagneraude:



The only Jewish reference I recall in the entire 'verse came w/ Mr Universe and his wedding.

Not so much w/ Mal, who clearly kissed the cross he wore on a chain around his neck , in the pilot episode.

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Originally posted by Wagneraude:



The only Jewish reference I recall in the entire 'verse came w/ Mr Universe and his wedding.

Not so much w/ Mal, who clearly kissed the cross he wore on a chain around his neck , in the pilot episode.

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Amnon, in The Message, who somebody in the commentary refers to as " the only Jew in outer space."

As to kissing the cross, I've always thought of that as a Catholic thing.

And gotta remember, it's 500 years in the future, on planets far, far away. No telling how various demoninations might have evolved and combined. Maybe what's left is a mixture of beliefs and rituals.

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Originally posted by Wagneraude:
It seems very few people actually heard the line, I assure you, if you watch the end of Trash, as Wash walks away with zoe (around 43 minutes in) he says "Zoe, he's Jewish"

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Originally posted by Wagneraude:
It seems very few people actually heard the line, I assure you, if you watch the end of Trash, as Wash walks away with zoe (around 43 minutes in) he says "Zoe, he's Jewish"

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Originally posted by Wagneraude:
Bear with me here for a second.

Now, we all know Mal is atheistic, or at least rejects god, but in the pilot, we see him holding a cross, which means that at some point before the war he was Christian.

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Mal isn't jewish, he'd have a star of david if that were the case, not a cross.

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
AU: If it's filmed, I consider it canon. The scripts are supplemental, and canon only if they don't contradict what is filmed or what is possible within the framework of the setting.

For example, the River pillow scene cut from OMR is not canon, because Saffron would have seen Simon and River, and she would have tipped off the Feds. In Trash, this is remedied by suggesting at one point that Saffron hadn't ever seen them and it would be best if Simon and River stayed out of sight.

Besides, I suspect that Wash was joking as well. Or it could even be Alan, in character, making a joke at Nathan's expense, as I hear that Nathan took a lot of guff from the crew for his little sock monster scene. Either way, since it was in character, it's a joke made in canon, but not necessarily a joke that has any bearing on canon. Mal isn't jewish, he'd have a star of david if that were the case, not a cross.

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But his faith, as Book revealed to him in Serenity with his dying breath, was restored by the film's end. He hinted at River being the key. Remember, when the Operative asks him is he willing to die for his belief, Mal's response.

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