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Is hiring a Companion a futuristic version of a Lap Dance?

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 12:57 PM

CHRISISALL


C'mon, Joss is a GUY! For all his pro-feminist cred, he's still a lowly male of the species.

Did this creep into Firefly, or was it a genuine and interesting plot device to keep Mal & Inara "Moonlighting?"



The laughing Chrisisall



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Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:17 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
C'mon, Joss is a GUY! For all his pro-feminist cred, he's still a lowly male of the species.

Did this creep into Firefly, or was it a genuine and interesting plot device to keep Mal & Inara "Moonlighting?"



The laughing Chrisisall



NO! You just don't buy one! They're choose you, they're boarder line Royalty.....and Budist's

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:29 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
NO! You just don't buy one! They're choose you, they're boarder line Royalty.....and Budist's

Which begs the question: are there obese or ugly Companions?


The laughing Chrisisall


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Thursday, June 24, 2010 2:58 PM

BYTEMITE


Sure, there's heavy, plain, and/or ugly ones.

Ugly is fetishized in some circles, for an escort to a classy social event a client might want a plain Companion so they're not outshone by the arm candy, and you can't tell me you've seen dollhouse and say that a heavy girl can't be gorgeous in her own right.

As for Inara's job, in the writing it's a plot device. Whenever Joss uses her job to springboard into risque or steamy territory, though, that's Author Appeal. Hey, they all have it, even the girls. I'm surprised Jane Espensen didn't treat herself to some eye candy in the episodes she wrote.

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:04 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
NO! You just don't buy one! They're choose you, they're boarder line Royalty.....and Budist's

Which begs the question: are there obese or ugly Companions?




Nandi was ugly. That's why she was forced to whore on that barren rock of a planet in some forsaken t.v. dinner of a ' house'.






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Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:07 PM

BYTEMITE


Ehm, I'd more describe Nandi as middle aged than ugly. Like with Sheydra, in the movie.

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:15 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Nandi was ugly.

Nandi was HOT!
Are you sly?
I didn't figure you as such...



The laughing Chrisisall


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Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:21 PM

BYTEMITE


In retrospect, he was probably kidding.

She does have nice red hair and green eyes, though.

I mean, pretty is relative. Like, Felicia Day. She's not a classic beauty, like face structure wise.

But she's Felicia Day, there's something about the way she looks that's refreshing, you know? She has some kind of quality. I'd call her pretty even if she doesn't fit the usual definition.

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:55 PM

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Joss likes him some naked starlets. Makes casting calls more fun. That's what a man does.

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Nandi was ugly. That's why she was forced to whore on that barren rock of a planet in some forsaken t.v. dinner of a ' house'.



You mean forced to whore in that barren rock of Hollywood.




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Friday, June 25, 2010 12:39 AM

TWO

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Sure, there's heavy, plain, and/or ugly ones.

Ugly is fetishized in some circles, for an escort to a classy social event a client might want a plain Companion so they're not outshone by the arm candy, and you can't tell me you've seen dollhouse and say that a heavy girl can't be gorgeous in her own right.

As for Inara's job, in the writing it's a plot device. Whenever Joss uses her job to springboard into risque or steamy territory, though, that's Author Appeal. Hey, they all have it, even the girls. I'm surprised Jane Espensen didn't treat herself to some eye candy in the episodes she wrote.

If we're speculating about Companions, we need to imagine some future history because Firefly doesn't tell us enough about why they are highly respected. In early Core history there were many dual-career Companions who worked in fields related to human reproduction.

The medical researchers who developed the first completely effective vaccine for HIV were also Companions. The lawmaker who wrote the Alliance Constitutional amendment which declared promiscuity a basic human right was a registered Companion. The epidemiologists who stamped out sexually transmitted diseases in the Core were Companions.

Companion embryologists perfected artificial womb techniques (uncomfortably like "Brave New World"). Only the very rich and very poor in the Core give birth naturally. (Simon was natural; River was artificial for her mother's convenience.) And everyone knows that the psychiatrists who used brain scans for delineation of the scientifically proven boundary between healthy and harmful areas of "A Map of the Lands of Human Sexuality" were... Companions!

Companions have only been stymied in their effort to find a cure for sexual jealousy, so show them more respect. Everybody ought to quit asking about ugly Companions. Their minds are always beautiful.

And, by the way, they all receive the same salary. There is no competition between Companions about who brings in more money. Do you think Companions are like car salesmen at the same dealership, all competing with each other for customers and commissions? Never! That low behavior is for call girls.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, June 25, 2010 2:21 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
In retrospect, he was probably kidding.

She does have nice red hair and green eyes, though.

I mean, pretty is relative. Like, Felicia Day. She's not a classic beauty, like face structure wise.

But she's Felicia Day, there's something about the way she looks that's refreshing, you know? She has some kind of quality. I'd call her pretty even if she doesn't fit the usual definition.







I was joking! What's the matter with you people? Don't you know a joke when you hear one ?




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Friday, June 25, 2010 3:09 AM

QUANDOM


Any one remember "'Sociolaters' from the first version of BSG? How are FF Companions different?

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Friday, June 25, 2010 3:23 AM

TWO

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by quandom:
Any one remember "'Sociolaters' from the first version of BSG? How are FF Companions different?

The wiki http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Socialator says that Socialators are "are scorned by members of the Otori Sect." Companions are not scorned. There must be huge differences between being a Companion and a Socialator. Firefly never showed or explained why Companions are esteemed. It can't be the fancy clothes and manners because that's too shallow an explanation. I invented some reasons higher in this thread.

If it had lasted another season, I'm thinking that Firefly would have revealed why Companions have high status. You would not need to suspend disbelief forever because Joss Whedon would have eventually shown the reasons. While we were waiting for the big reveal, we just assumed that somebody classy like Morena Baccarin would not go into a career that deserves no respect, like my career at Burger King. (I love BK Whoppers like Inara loves fornication. That's why she & me work where we work.)

Later edit: I'm trying to think like a science fiction writer. Conditions haven't changed that much from the days when Moses brought the ten commandments down from Mt. Sinai, as least as far as sex. What do we have that Moses didn't? Penicillin, reliable paternity tests using DNA, and birth control with side effects. Now imagine a distant future that has many more technological advances that are related to sex. And imagine that Companions created these advances, either directly as researchers or by funding others's research. I think it follows that there would be changes in what is considered sexually moral compared to the days of Moses. I think Companions would be the vanguard promoting these moral changes. Companions might be considered praiseworthy for what they accomplished over centuries. That's my theory about why Companions are held in great esteem.

By the way, we ain't livin' in the 26th century, so don't get too advanced in your sex life. You might be getting ahead of science. There are practical reasons for Abrahamic religious traditions governing sex. Reasons that go beyond 'God Commands You!' and 'The Bible Says!'

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, June 25, 2010 6:19 AM

BYTEMITE


I pretty much agree, Two, and I'd also add that as a regulated incorporated guild under Alliance law, the Companion Guild has to meet all applicable futuristic discrimination laws re: ageism, lookism, classism, and weightism.

The Companion Guild probably has an extensive scholarship program they award girls of all spectrums of society and appearance, and anyone who completes the required curriculum becomes a certified companion. I don't imagine that curriculum being easy, though, requiring intelligence, education, sensibility, and eventually proof of skill.

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Friday, June 25, 2010 6:23 AM

QUANDOM


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
Joss likes him some naked starlets. Makes casting calls more fun. That's what a man does.

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Nandi was ugly. That's why she was forced to whore on that barren rock of a planet in some forsaken t.v. dinner of a ' house'.



You mean forced to whore in that barren rock of Hollywood.


(...)



Ugly? Unfair! Ungallent! Wie ungallant! Nandi was broke. 'No shame to be poor, but no great honor either'. The Companion Guild has a monopoly on Companions. Like other people who are broke, you drift out to the fringes. The business she built was classic sweat equity.

The first picture you posted is ...sweet and lovely. In presenting the female form, the world has forgotten subtlety, but this photographer remembered. Thank you for posting.


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