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The Lie of True Happiness that Firefly/Serenity blows away-

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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 4:54 PM

CHRISISALL


It's a dopey dream that we ALL have, and one that Joss takes aim at in most of his works IMO.
What IS happiness?

The absence of conflict?
Total acceptance of the *real you* by your lover?
Not getting killed by Reavers?
Not having the *real you* discovered over a volcano?
Having a cool ride with a Capisin 38 engine that WORKS WELL?

IMHO, happiness is accepting that not every moment or day will be, er, HAPPY.

Accepting that people in general can suck- even your loved ones.

That even YOU can suck, on occasion.

I know I can suck.

I must be U-man.


Thoughts?


The laughing Chrisisall



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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:56 AM

BYTEMITE


Joss Whedon steeps all of his characters in unhappiness from their very design concept. Then he nails them where it hurts.

Yes, even Kaylee. Most of the time she is actually genuinely optimistic and happy, but deep down I see her as troubled by things they have to do and tensions that rise among the crew because of it. Look at the movie when Mal's fighting with everyone, the times when danger comes home. The crew tries to keep her sheltered, but she knows. She tries to justify it, tries to pass it off to Simon in The Train Job as exciting and adventurous, but she's trying to convince herself as much as anyone. Out of Gas, Objects in Space, War Stories, in these episodes, Kaylee is reminded of how dangerous and uncertain life out in space is, as has to try to forget, move past the fear, but she ends up just carrying it with her.

Similarly, Zoe and Wash are a happy couple, but individually, they have their shares of troubles. Zoe's stoicism hides a lot of pain and anger, even more than Mal (judging by her stint with the dust devils), she just doesn't express it outwardly. Wash is a happy-go-lucky guy on the outside, but like Kaylee he has his own concerns about how dangerous their lives are, which is why he kept trying to convince Zoe to LEAVE the ship before they tried to start a family.

Fortunately, a Serenity doesn't have a Capisen 38 engine.

I think your "things can suck, but still be okay" idea can be part of happiness. In the very least, it's a well-adjusted outlook on the realities of life; that everything, even discomfort, hard times, and grief really are fleeting.

However, I don't think by itself your concept is happiness. I think happiness comes from a security and confidence with the self, followed by a security and confidence in how the self fits in the situation at hand and the broader picture. When you get something you want, your favourite meal, a job you wanted, even romantic reciprocation of affection or what have you, even just surviving to the end of the day with enough coin in your pocket to keep going, that's really a validation of the worth of the self.

Other sources of happiness, such as being happy for someone else, have a more obscure source. I assume that to be happy for someone else, first they have to have something that they themselves are happy about, which you also see as a good, happy thing. For them, this ties into the validation thing I mentioned above. Second, you have to know the happy party well enough to know their struggles to really appreciate their triumphs.

Perhaps we see ourselves in others, which allows us to rejoice in their successes by proxy, which then the positivity we feel rewards us for caring about them and interacting with them.

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Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:18 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by beatupplenty:

If true happiness can simply be the absence of conflict that would explain why many of us don't recognize the happiness when we have it.




How's that any different than saying peace is the absence of conflict?

Some conflict is good. Some struggles are healthy. Having NO conflict, means you're completely submissive, or dead.

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Thursday, September 30, 2010 8:39 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by beatupplenty:
It can get really hard to see to the happy ones, they can be so sporadic and fleeting if you see one embrace it so you can carry it with you later on.

^^^^That.


The laughing Chrisisall


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Thursday, September 30, 2010 8:51 AM

JONGSSTRAW


I'm generally a happy person because it doesn't take much for me to feel good about life. Any number of stupid little things can make me happy, and as I get older those are the moments I set aside for myself. Then there are the cherished family moments that no amount of money can replace. When you see your children grow into interesting, productive, and caring people, the pride you feel is the happiest feeling on Earth.






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Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:14 AM

CHRISISALL


^^^^ That too.


The laughing Chrisisall


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Saturday, October 2, 2010 3:13 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


A History Of Happiness

By Darrin M. McMahon, Ph.D.

02 October, 2010
YES! Magazine

We've forgotten much of what older traditions knew about happiness

I think it is probably fair to assume that most Americans today consider happiness not only something that would be nice to have, but something that we really ought to have—and, moreover, something that’s within our power to bring about, if only we set our minds to it. We can be happy, we tell ourselves, teeth gritted. We should be happy. We will be happy.

That is a modern article of faith. But it is also a relatively recent idea in the West which dates from the 17th and 18th centuries, a time that ushered in a dramatic shift in what human beings could legitimately hope to expect in and from their lives. People prior to the late 17th century thought happiness was a matter of luck or virtue or divine favor. Today we think of happiness as a right and a skill that can be developed. This has been liberating, in some respects, because it asks us to strive to improve our lots in life, individually and collectively. But there have been downsides as well. It seems that when we want to be happy all of the time, we can forget that the pursuit of happiness can entail struggle, sacrifice, even pain.

Roots of happiness

Language reveals ancient definitions of happiness. It is a striking fact that in every Indo-European language, without exception, going all the way back to ancient Greek, the word for happiness is a cognate with the word for luck. Hap is the Old Norse and Old English root of happiness, and it just means luck or chance, as did the Old French heur, giving us bonheur, good fortune or happiness. German gives us the word Gluck, which to this day means both happiness and chance.

What does this linguistic pattern suggest? For a good many ancient peoples—and for many others long after that—happiness was not something you could control. It was in the hands of the gods, dictated by Fate or Fortune, controlled by the stars, not something that you or I could really count upon or make for ourselves. Happiness, literally, was what happened to us, and that was ultimately out of our hands. As the monk in Chaucer’s Canterbury Tales declares:

And thus does Fortune’s wheel turn treacherously And out of happiness bring men to sorrow.

In other words, the wheel of fortune controls our happenstance, and hence our happiness.

There were, of course, other ways of thinking about happiness. Those who have studied Greek or Roman philosophy will know that happiness—what the Greeks called, in one of several words, eudaimonia—was the goal of all Classical philosophy, beginning with Socrates and Plato, then taken up even more centrally by Aristotle, then featured prominently in all the major “schools” of Classical thought, including that of the Epicureans, Stoics, and so forth. In their view, happiness could be earned, a perspective that anticipates our modern one.

But there is a crucial difference between their ideas of happiness and ours. For most of these Classical philosophers, happiness is never simply a function of good feeling—of what puts a smile on our face—but rather of living good lives, lives that will almost certainly include a good deal of pain. The most dramatic illustration of this is the Roman statesman and philosopher Cicero’s claim that the happy man will be happy even on the torture wrack.

That sounds ludicrous to us today—and perhaps it is—but it very nicely captures the way the ancients thought of happiness, not as an emotional state but as an outcome of moral comportment. “Happiness is a life lived according to virtue,” Aristotle famously says. It is measured in lifetimes, not moments. And it has far more to do with how we order ourselves and our lives as a whole than anything that might happen individually to any one of us.

Given these presuppositions, the ancients tended to agree that very few would ever succeed in being happy, because happiness takes an incredible amount of work, discipline, and devotion, and most people, in the end, are simply not up to the task. The happy are what Aristotle calls “happy few.” They are, if you like, the ethical elite. This is not a democratic conception of happiness.

After the Greek and Roman traditions, we have Jewish and Christian ideas about happiness. In the prevailing Christian understanding, happiness can occur in one of three circumstances. It can be found in the past in a lost Golden Age, in the Garden of Eden when Adam and Eve were perfectly content. It can be revealed in the future—the millennium when Christ will return and the Kingdom of God will genuinely be at hand. Or we can find happiness in heaven, when the saints shall know the “perfect felicity,” as Thomas Aquinas puts it, the pure bliss of union with God. Strictly speaking, this is the happiness of death.

And so in the dominant Christian worldview, happiness is not something we can obtain in this life. It is not our natural state. On the contrary, it is an exalted condition, reserved for the elect in a time outside of time, at the end of history. This is the opposite of today’s egalitarian, feel-good-now conception of happiness.

Happiness revolution

Enter the 17th and 18th centuries, when a revolution in human expectations overthrew these old ideas of happiness. It is in this time that the French Encyclopédie, the Bible of the European Enlightenment, declares in its article on happiness that everyone has a right to be happy. It is in this time that Thomas Jefferson declares the right to pursue happiness to be a self-evident truth, while his colleague George Mason, in the Virginia Declaration of Rights, speaks of pursuing and obtaining happiness as a natural endowment and right. And it is in this time that the French revolutionary leader St. Just can stand up during the height of the Jacobin revolution in France in 1794 and declare: “Happiness is a new idea in Europe.” In many ways it was.

When the English philosopher and revolutionary John Locke declared at the end of the 17th century that the “business of man is to be happy,” he meant that we shouldn’t assume that suffering is our natural lot, and that we shouldn’t have to apologize for our pleasures here on earth. On the contrary, we should work to increase them. It wasn’t a sin to enjoy our bodies, his contemporaries began to argue. It wasn’t gluttony and greed to work to improve our standards of living. It wasn’t a sign of luxury and depravity to pursue pleasures of the flesh, and whatever other kind as well. Pleasure was good. Pain was bad. We should maximize the one and minimize the other, yielding the greatest happiness for the greatest number..

This was a liberating perspective. Starting in Locke’s time, men and women in the West dared to think of happiness as something more than a divine gift, less fortuitous than fortune, less exalted than a millenarian dream. For the first time in human history, comparatively large numbers of people were exposed to the novel prospect that they might not have to suffer as an unfailing law of the universe, that they could—and should—expect happiness in the form of good feeling, and pleasure as a right of existence. This is a prospect that has gradually spread from the originally rather narrow universe of white men to include women, people of color, children—indeed, humanity as a whole.

This new orientation towards happiness was, as I say, liberating in many respects. I would argue that it continues to lie behind some of our most noble humanitarian sentiments—the belief that suffering is inherently wrong, and that all people, in all places, should have the opportunity, the right, to be happy.

Unnatural happiness

But there is a dark side to this vision of happiness as well, one that may help explain why so many of us are snapping up books about happiness and coming to happiness conferences, searching for an emotion that we worry is absent from our lives.

For all its pleasures and benefits, this new perspective on happiness as a given right, tends to imagine happiness not as something won through moral cultivation, carried out over the course of a well-lived life, but as something “out there” that could be pursued, caught, and consumed. Happiness has increasingly been thought to be more about getting little infusions of pleasure, about feeling good rather than being good, less about living the well-lived life than about experiencing the well-felt moment.

Don’t get me wrong, there is nothing bad about feeling good. But I would suggest that something of value may have been lost or forgotten in our transition to modern ideas of happiness. We can’t feel good all the time; nor, I think, should we want to. Nor should we assume that happiness can be had (maybe a better word?) without a certain degree of effort, and possibly even sacrifice and pain. These are things that the older traditions knew—in the West and the East alike—and that we have forgotten.

Today, science is rediscovering the validity of ancient perspectives on happiness—that there are important connections between hope and happiness, for example, or between gratitude and forgiving and happiness, altruism and happiness. Science is often painted as being opposed to matters of the spirit, but new discoveries by researchers like Michael McCullough, Robert Emmons, and many others remind us how important non-materialistic, spiritual cultivation is to our happiness and well-being. It is all the more important to revive and cultivate this older wisdom today, given that so many of us assume that we ought to be happy as a matter of course, that this is our natural state.

Indeed, if you think about it, this idea of happiness as a natural state creates a curious problem. What if I’m not happy? Does that mean that I’m unnatural? Am I ill, or bad, or deficient? Is there something wrong with me? Is there something wrong with the society in which I live? These are all symptoms of a condition that I call the unhappiness of not being happy, and it is a peculiarly modern condition.

To cure this condition, we might focus less on our own personal happiness and instead on the happiness of those around us, for relentless focus on one’s own happiness has the potential to be self-defeating. The 19th century philosopher John Stuart Mill once said, “Ask yourself whether you are happy, and you cease to be so.” Whether that is really true or not, I don’t know. But given that we live in a world that asks this question of us every day, it is a paradox worth pondering.

Darrin M. McMahon, Ph.D., originally wrote this article for Greater Good, the UC Berkeley-based magazine that covers research into the roots of compassion, happiness, and altruism. It is republished through a special collaboration between Greater Good and YES! Magazine, a national, nonprofit media organization that fuses powerful ideas with practical actions. Darrin McMahon is a professor of history at Florida State University and the author of Happiness, A History. This piece is based on a talk he delivered at the 2008 "Happiness and Its Causes" conference in San Francisco, co-sponsored by the Greater Good Science Center.

http://www.countercurrents.org/mcmahon021010A.htm

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