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Serenity 2 -what have you?

POSTED BY: WISHIMAY
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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 9:51 AM

WISHIMAY


I was on the way home today and was trying to come up with what the premise of a sequel could be.

The first idea that popped in my head was "The Revenge of Atherton Wing"

I mean, the guy has means and motive and drive, and since he probably would have to kill Mal to try to regain his honor, I could see him taking this to epic heights. I'm sure he could find some Alliance people who would be more than happy to assist... So,he kidnaps Inara to bait Mal. I mean, it's not exactly taking on a corrupt system, but it's got teeth- and it could be done from the perspective of a few years down the road, which is where we are. I 've only read 2 fanfics so I appologize if it's been said.

So what other ideas have we?

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 9:52 AM

STORYMARK


I'd be far, far more interested in "The Revenge of Jubal Early", "The Vengance of Niska" or "The Undressing of YoSaffBridge".

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 10:09 AM

WISHIMAY


There's plenty o' room for all that in Serenity 3, hon.

And if not maybe Ath can team up with 'em...

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 10:18 AM

ZEEK


Atherton wasn't a very interesting character IMO. Saffron all the way. Especially with how high Christina Hendrick's stock is soaring these days.

It would have a whole doublecross, triplecross, etc. thing going. Maybe like a Ocean's Eleven set in space. Except with 7...and Mal's instead of Ocean's.

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 10:40 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Atherton wasn't a very interesting character IMO. Saffron all the way. Especially with how high Christina Hendrick's stock is soaring these days.

It would have a whole doublecross, triplecross, etc. thing going. Maybe like a Ocean's Eleven set in space. Except with 7...and Mal's instead of Ocean's.



Exactly. Lots of potential there.

Atherton is just a rich douche. Not as interesting. Though I love me some Shindig, he's the weakest element.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 10:44 AM

WISHIMAY


Ha, If Atherton had a D-cup I'm sure he would've grown on ya'll...

I don't think a Jubal movie would make it, we've already had a scary black man movie, and I don't think we wanna turn FF into the living embodiement of "black vs. white".

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 10:48 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
It would have a whole doublecross, triplecross, etc. thing going. Maybe like a Ocean's Eleven set in space. Except with 7...and Mal's instead of Ocean's.



Wait- didn't we have an eppisode like that... Oh yeah- I think it was called "Trash"!


Also, Saff would be in jail on Bellarophon, and even if she could talk her way out of max security-not that I'm saying she couldn't- I gotta think she'd think twice about messin' with Mal and Crew. She's devious allright, but most gals aren't extremely proficient in the revenge business...


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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 10:57 AM

LILI

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Do you mind if I ask why you're so rudely shooting down everything anyone says, just because they (rightly) think that Saffron is a more interesting villain than some guy who got lucky with Inara and can use a sword but not his brain?


Facts are stubborn things.

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 11:01 AM

STORYMARK


Apparently, this isn't for what people want to see in Serenity 2, but an Atherton Wing appreciation thread....

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 11:07 AM

WISHIMAY


No, LiLi-Only if you mind me "asking" why everything you post sounds snarky....

I'm more than willing to change my mind if someone would give logical reason as to why I should. I am also not opposed to a Niska revisit but I am exploring the less reviewed options here, ones that don't involve boobage as an inspiration...

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 11:11 AM

STORYMARK


Uh, we responded with what we wanted to see. You're the one that was snarkily shooting down anything that didn't fit your notion. Blaming it all "boobage" is not openly inaccurate (as there have been other suggestions) but also reveals a bit of bias that might be clouding your responses.


"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 11:11 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Wait- didn't we have an eppisode like that... Oh yeah- I think it was called "Trash"!


Also, Saff would be in jail on Bellarophon, and even if she could talk her way out of max security-not that I'm saying she couldn't- I gotta think she'd think twice about messin' with Mal and Crew. She's devious allright, but most gals aren't extremely proficient in the revenge business...



What was wrong with Trash? It was a good episode and a movie in the same vein would be fine with me. If you've seen Buffy think about how many times they had Ethan Rein show up to cast a spell or create some kind of crazy havok. Just because the character is a one trick pony doesn't mean they aren't fun.

I'm pretty sure Saffron could talk or deal her way out of jail. Heck I don't know why she wouldn't hand the crew over on a silver platter for a half hour off her sentence.

Also she seemed to go pretty revengy on Mal in Trash.

Basically I guess I disagree with all your points in that post.

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 11:17 AM

WISHIMAY


The thing about Saffron, though, is that she always loses out when it comes to the crew.

Do you really want her to get away with something against them in movie form? Maybe if there'd been more eppisodes, sure.

All I'm saying is I think Ath could grow to BECOME an epic ass, and it's apparent he's already hated, so making him into the guy you love to hate should'nt be too hard...

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 11:19 AM

WISHIMAY


Ok,what do you say to Yo-saff's ex taking revenge, then?

After all, they did steal his prized phallic symbol.

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 11:20 AM

LILI

Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.


Saying everything I post sounds snarky might be taking it a bit far. Everything I posted in this thread may have sounded snarky, because I was snarking at you, but I think you'll find that the word everything encompasses more than a single post to someone who is being irrationally rude.


Facts are stubborn things.

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 11:22 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
The thing about Saffron, though, is that she always loses out when it comes to the crew.

Do you really want her to get away with something against them in movie form? Maybe if there'd been more eppisodes, sure.

All I'm saying is I think Ath could grow to BECOME an epic ass, and it's apparent he's already hated, so making him into the guy you love to hate should'nt be too hard...



I'm not sure I understand the question - she loses out, but would get away with it, huh?

Anyway, I've little doubt that Joss could come up with a fun story that involved her if he so chose.

And I don't know that Ath is so much hated, as he gets a big ol' "Meh". Just not interesting.

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Ok,what do you say to Yo-saff's ex taking revenge, then?



That could maybe have some potential. Except he didn't really strike me as much if a revenge guy. Now, I could see him hiring Saff and our crew for another job....

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 11:30 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by LiLi:
Saying everything I post sounds snarky might be taking it a bit far. Everything I posted in this thread may have sounded snarky, because I was snarking at you, but I think you'll find that the word everything encompasses more than a single post to someone who is being irrationally rude.


Facts are stubborn things.



First, you should know I am hardly ever angry, and that most things I say should be taken in jest... I find it annoying to put smiley faces after everything... Also, people who belittle other people's simple questions with snarky "Are we caring about this" comments (as you have already done) shouldn't call others "irrationally rude"...

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 11:35 AM

WISHIMAY


Originally posted by Storymark:
I'm not sure I understand the question - she loses out, but would get away with it, huh?


I'm saying if she does get away with something, it probably would take a long time(if ever!) to resolve the story, and that would be irritating...




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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 11:40 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Originally posted by Storymark:
I'm not sure I understand the question - she loses out, but would get away with it, huh?


I'm saying if she does get away with something, it probably would take a long time(if ever!) to resolve the story, and that would be irritating...






Eh, that's only one way to go with a story, and wouldn't really work unless it was Saffron: The Movie.

A more workable format would be her stealing something in the first act, which the crew gets back by the end, or somesuch. A whole movie of her just screwing the crew would be dull, and not likely something Joss would ever write.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 11:43 AM

WISHIMAY


Have you people never heard of "playing devil's advocate?" I just thought I'd debate the less easy options, I think you all are taking this personally or somethin'.


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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 12:03 PM

THEHAPPYTRADER


I'm thinking a revenge of blue sun or the academy or something. We only know that the operative killed Dr. Mathias and a couple of blue hands, but there could be many more and River's message to Simon was they are hurting 'us' not just 'me.'

Personally, I think that is the best direction we could go in. We really don't know that much about Blue Sun. Maybe Blue Sun even wants revenge on the Alliance it self for what the Operative did? So many possibilities.

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 12:21 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Have you people never heard of "playing devil's advocate?" I just thought I'd debate the less easy options, I think you all are taking this personally or somethin'.




Sheesh, I think you might be projecting a bit. I discussed the possible merits and possible shortcomings - and you seem to be taking it personally. Don't get upset because the story you throw out there, after snarkily complaining about any other idea, has easy to spot problems.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 1:00 PM

LILI

Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
people who belittle other people's simple questions with snarky "Are we caring about this" comments (as you have already done) shouldn't call others "irrationally rude"...


So you think Wash is an unpleasant or unquotable character? Huh.


Facts are stubborn things.

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 2:51 PM

WISHIMAY


You do realize you are defending somethin' said in a damn script, not an actual person, right?

Just because it was said by someone on FF don't mean it ain't a jerkwad question when used out here in the real world...

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 2:56 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:
I'm thinking a revenge of blue sun or the academy or something. We only know that the operative killed Dr. Mathias and a couple of blue hands, but there could be many more and River's message to Simon was they are hurting 'us' not just 'me.'



Now that's not a half bad idea, but I doubt that many people escaped on thier own. I am intrigued by River searching out or even busting out a person or two. Maybe that could be her new mission in life or something?

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 3:06 PM

THEHAPPYTRADER


I was thinking the same. I dunno if it's firefly cannon, but the serenity rpg book says Serenity is actually a decommissioned medship conversion firefly. Maybe they're new mission of sorts could be to rescue the other academy students and for Simon to help them get better. All the while Blue Sun is playing playing public would-be revolutionaries against the Alliance's suddenly shaky grip on power while trying to track down Serenity's crew and reclaim River, their greatest success, maybe with a student mole!

Maybe I should write something like that after I finish 'Secret Agent Tam.' Only I don't know I could do the concept justice. I enjoy the funny stuff way too much.

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 3:17 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
What was wrong with Trash? It was a good episode and a movie in the same vein would be fine with me.

Heck I don't know why she wouldn't hand the crew over on a silver platter for a half hour off her sentence.

Also she seemed to go pretty revengy on Mal in Trash.


Weren't nothin' wrong with "Trash" my only problem is -it's been done. Why rehash if we ain't gotta? I'm sure there's enough of the 'verse we haven't seen.

Hand over who? I'm pretty sure most of the 'verse knows where ta find 'em after Serenity...My problem is I don't see the Crew getting away with any heist, after.

Gettin in a fight and making Mal get nekkid were moments of opportunity, hell, it took her seven years to come up with stealing the lassiter (or she woulda taken it with her when she left) and she wasn't even looking for or planning revenge when she ran into him. All she wanted was the gun and gettin away...

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 3:24 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:
I was thinking the same. I dunno if it's firefly cannon, but the serenity rpg book says Serenity is actually a decommissioned medship conversion firefly. Maybe they're new mission of sorts could be to rescue the other academy students and for Simon to help them get better. All the while Blue Sun is playing playing public would-be revolutionaries against the Alliance's suddenly shaky grip on power while trying to track down Serenity's crew and reclaim River, their greatest success, maybe with a student mole!

Maybe I should write something like that after I finish 'Secret Agent Tam.' Only I don't know I could do the concept justice. I enjoy the funny stuff way too much.



Mmmm, I like it, it tastes sneaky!

I understand the funny trouble, I'm the kinda gal who laughs at a funeral. Few people get that, or me- for that matter...

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 3:33 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:

Hand over who? I'm pretty sure most of the 'verse knows where ta find 'em after Serenity...My problem is I don't see the Crew getting away with any heist, after.



Why would you think that? It's not like they were in the broadcast, or signed their names to it. Sure, the Alliance knows they did it, but they've always been after the crew, so no huge change in status quo there.

Not saying their lives wouldn't change at all afterward, but I can't imagine they'd suddenly become known across the 'verse.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 4:00 PM

LILI

Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
You do realize you are defending ... not an actual person, right?


Hence my use of the word "character." Would you like the definition of that word, in the context I was using it?

char·ac·ter
-noun
a person represented in a drama, story, etc.
a part or role, as in a play or film.

You do realize that favorite lines and characters are often quoted by fans, right? Obsession with a show will often manifest in this way.

Also? Nobody did care. It was applicable.


Facts are stubborn things.

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 4:08 PM

WISHIMAY


So now you are going down to fighting over semantics? And you say I'm boring...

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 4:13 PM

LILI

Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.


Semantics is what I do. Speaking of which, kindly point out where exactly I ever said you were boring, because I'm quite sure I didn't. I am, in fact, mildly entertained, else I wouldn't be responding. If you could see me, you'd know I'm giggling and also snorting.


Facts are stubborn things.

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 4:22 PM

THEHAPPYTRADER


lol, while this is all mildly entertaining, anybody got anymore shiney ideas?

Personally, I see both Atherton and YoSaffBridge as interesting complications, but not enough to be a real plot device. The only reason I hold Niska above those two is because he has a powerful organization under his control, but even Niska I see more as a complication than a focus.

How about something focused on the Guild? That's another thing we haven't really heard much about. Maybe the guild has some nefarious plan to rule the galaxy through it's concubines! Maybe that's why they said many planets woudn't even let them land without a registered companion on board.


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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 4:32 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

Not saying their lives wouldn't change at all afterward, but I can't imagine they'd suddenly become known across the 'verse.




That's why the operative let them go, 'cause now everybody knows, and if they get killed it'll just damage the Aliance's rep that much more...Don't think they would've let them go if they could have covered up who sent the signal, unfortunately there was 90 dozen ships and 90 dozen officers who saw Serenity aimed right at 'em with a screen blaring "lookout for this Captain" Oh, and what a coincidence there just happened to be this signal explaining Miranda 10 minutes later... The word of mouth alone would cover a dozen worlds in a dozen days. People are still passing along the tiniest trivia from our civil war, and that was without a Cortex.


Yeah, Mal's gettin' away with anything days would be long done.

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 5:03 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by LiLi:

Also? Nobody did care. It was applicable.




You might want to look up the words "implied inference"

200+ people read that thread. I didn't take that to mean nobody cared just that nobody knew otherwise why would they be here if no one cared 'bout it...

I just happen to like inane trivia and Dwier Brown more than most, and I'm just fine with that...

I find his voice soothing.

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 5:11 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:

Personally, I see both Atherton and YoSaffBridge as interesting complications, but not enough to be a real plot device. The only reason I hold Niska above those two is because he has a powerful organization under his control, but even Niska I see more as a complication than a focus.



Yes, I completely agree, that was my only problem with using those characters. Maybe have a whole new villian?

Hmm, the companions take over? Oh, good, ritualized sex for everyone!!! Now I know what to do with my Tuesday nights!

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 5:19 PM

LILI

Doing it backwards. Walking up the downslide.


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
200+ people read that thread.


And yet nobody replied to it except me. And you. The thread title was possibly intriguing. The subject was not interesting, so nobody cared to discuss it. Ergo, not one of those 200 plus reads made anyone care. I cared the most of anyone, and only bothered to say that I didn't care. Implied inference indeed.

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why would they be here if no one cared 'bout it...

You were discussing TMZ, a vacuous show about people who harass other people with the hope of appealing to Joe Everymoron. Many, many people are here and don't care about that.


Facts are stubborn things.

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 5:59 PM

WISHIMAY


Wow, that's interesting... I didn't know you were an approved representative to speak for many people here...

Maybe people were busy, or were interested but didn't have anything to say. Not every post needs discussion, some are just read threads... Besides, I think Harvey Levin is funny, and I don't need your approval for that either...

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 6:37 PM

RAHLMACLAREN

"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it." - Jayne Cobb


Wow, 38 posts! This must be a hot thread! Oh wait, 19 (HALF!) of those posts are by the same person. And most of those posts are either shooting down other peoples ideas or going off topic.


I'll post my thoughts when there's a more welcoming environment. (Never thought I'd say that at FFF.net, in a non-RWED thread.)


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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 7:55 PM

WISHIMAY


Ahgh don't worry, you're fairly safe, as long as ya don't mind some good natured debate. Was all I was looking for, anyhow.

Come on in, the water's fine...

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 8:45 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Personally I always thought if we got another movie it would deal with Inara in some way, her history being one of the most-discussed topics I've seen next to the Shepherd.


Quote:

Originally posted by LiLi:
Many, many people are here and don't care about that.


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
I didn't know you were an approved representative to speak for many people here...


Incidentally, she does speak for me on that subject. She's a longstanding and possibly even respected member of this board. (yes, she is longstanding, her account pre-name-change dates back nearly as far as mine.)
Lisa, keep your debate spirit in rwed, it's not nice to scare the newbies. Wishimay, if you have any desire for my advice, she's not likely to stop snarking until you do, it's not her way. Let it go. Now would you stop pecking at each other? You're scaring away the conversation.

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 9:18 PM

STINKYSTU


I don't think you could make a full movie out of this but I would love to see Mal get revenge against the guy who shot him in the episode Out of Gas.

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Wednesday, October 6, 2010 10:13 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Hello - some nice ideas out there. I particularly like the Blue Sun angle. Would be fun also if during the darker more severe moments Jayne continues to wear his Blue Sun T-shirt.

For me personally I was always fascinated with Book and his back-story. I would be very interested in a story that involved his past catching up with and affecting the crew. Obviosuly in a negative way that would incur a rift within the group - in particular Zoe and Mal going their seperate ways.
Just what Books past may be is tricky, as any notion that one comes up with seems strangely inadequate for Book, but lets say for arguments sake that, his association with the Crew (while he was alive) has resulted in a 'Hit' being put out on them, and just about every low down bounty hunter and 'would be hero' out there is trying to destroy them.

....and if that isn't enough a wave comes in from a young woman on one of the 'fancier alliance friendly planets' claiming to be Book's daughter asking for help from Mal and co.





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Thursday, October 7, 2010 2:42 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Incidentally, she does speak for me on that subject. She's a longstanding and possibly even respected member of this board.
Lisa, keep your debate spirit in rwed, it's not nice to scare the newbies.

Wishimay, if you have any desire for my advice, she's not likely to stop snarking until you do, it's not her way. Let it go. Now would you stop pecking at each other? You're scaring away the conversation.



Yeah, not a newbie!!! The people who pay attention here know who I am.

This is why I don't usually talk to women, because they use emotional warfare, and guys will tell you plain what they don't like about you. Someone snarks at me, you'll see me start a war. Now I know, I will avoid snarky people in the future, which is a shame 'cause I like normal conversation here...

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 2:44 AM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by StinkyStu:
I don't think you could make a full movie out of this but I would love to see Mal get revenge against the guy who shot him in the episode Out of Gas.



Hey, at least you got your thinking cap on, I hadn't thought of that one!

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 3:33 AM

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May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


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Atherton wasn't a very interesting character IMO. Saffron all the way. Especially with how high Christina Hendrick's stock is soaring these days.

It would have a whole doublecross, triplecross, etc. thing going. Maybe like a Ocean's Eleven set in space. Except with 7...and Mal's instead of Ocean's.





Agreed. Atherton, while easy to dislike, was not at all interesting to me. I don't think he has what it takes to be the villian in a sequel. Niska on the other hand most assuredly does.

Christina's stock is soaring, but would she be willing to gamble that on Serenity 2? I would like to think she would and she would certainly be a draw, but then again so would Nathan thanks to his Castle following.

Why not have both Niska and Saffron? They could be working together or better yet, Saffron may have double crossed Niska and is on the run, using the crew to get away. Even better, Niska uses Saff to bait a trap to lead Mal in to another trap so he can exact his revenge left unfinished in Was Stories.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 3:50 AM

ZEEK


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Originally posted by Storymark:

Not saying their lives wouldn't change at all afterward, but I can't imagine they'd suddenly become known across the 'verse.




That's why the operative let them go, 'cause now everybody knows, and if they get killed it'll just damage the Aliance's rep that much more...Don't think they would've let them go if they could have covered up who sent the signal, unfortunately there was 90 dozen ships and 90 dozen officers who saw Serenity aimed right at 'em with a screen blaring "lookout for this Captain" Oh, and what a coincidence there just happened to be this signal explaining Miranda 10 minutes later... The word of mouth alone would cover a dozen worlds in a dozen days. People are still passing along the tiniest trivia from our civil war, and that was without a Cortex.


Yeah, Mal's gettin' away with anything days would be long done.


The operative let them go because he saw that the alliance was flawed and might not create the perfect worlds he was hoping for. He started to think in shades of gray. The alliance let them go because they aren't inherently evil. They aren't going to just lock up or execute people for no good reason. Their respected officer recommended letting Serenity and crew go. While they may have some inkling that his loyalty is waning, this is the first thing to tip them off. They likely went along with it only to find out that he's changed.

As for the other troops there's such a thing as top secret. I'm sure the alliance will be discrediting the broadcast right away. They will cover it up and the people who don't even believe in reavers will assume it's a hoax. The people who do believe it will be in the minority on the rim planets. Nothing much will come of it except a few more people on the rim hating on the alliance.

About the Blue Sun idea, I like it. However, I don't want to see it in Serenity 2 if it's going to be mostly focused on River. She had enough focus in Serenity. Time to move on to a story that the rest of the crew can have a bigger impact on. Maybe save Blue Sun for Serenity 3 (while we're dreaming)

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 4:41 AM

STORYMARK


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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:

Not saying their lives wouldn't change at all afterward, but I can't imagine they'd suddenly become known across the 'verse.




That's why the operative let them go, 'cause now everybody knows, and if they get killed it'll just damage the Aliance's rep that much more...Don't think they would've let them go if they could have covered up who sent the signal, unfortunately there was 90 dozen ships and 90 dozen officers who saw Serenity aimed right at 'em with a screen blaring "lookout for this Captain" Oh, and what a coincidence there just happened to be this signal explaining Miranda 10 minutes later... The word of mouth alone would cover a dozen worlds in a dozen days. People are still passing along the tiniest trivia from our civil war, and that was without a Cortex.


Yeah, Mal's gettin' away with anything days would be long done.



Hmm, well, if that's your take, cool. Little too broad for me, lots of holes in the logic. But to each their own.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 6:30 AM

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Good point, I would love to see some of the other characters get more of a focus in another Serenity movie. Maybe something the focuses on Inara or Zoe. They are both interesting characters that are bound to have interesting pasts. I'd love to see Simon take the lead, but it's hard to think of a plot where Simon isn't mostly an accessory to River or Kaylee or some other character. He's an interesting character, but he doesn't really doesn't seem to have his own goals, outside of helping River. But maybe a new movie could give him some.

Maybe a little something that shows whatever Simon and Inara's past connection was, or a race to find a cure for Inara's terminal illness.

Or maybe the Alliance (under new leadership) contracts Mal and his crew to look for a 'cure' of some sort for the reavers under the radar, on account of them not willing to openly admit the problem and their resources stretched thin maintaining order. That could make for interesting conflict, Mal not trusting or wanting anything to do with the Alliance, even under new leadership, and Simon wanting to help people cause that's what he does. Then, as an interesting twist, the Alliance or some rogue faction of it, deploys the PAX as some sort of chemical warfare and Serenity, armed with a cure or countermeasure or something swoops in to save this helpless Rim planet about to be made an example of.

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Thursday, October 7, 2010 6:37 AM

ZEEK


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Good point, I would love to see some of the other characters get more of a focus in another Serenity movie. Maybe something the focuses on Inara or Zoe. They are both interesting characters that are bound to have interesting pasts. I'd love to see Simon take the lead, but it's hard to think of a plot where Simon isn't mostly an accessory to River or Kaylee or some other character. He's an interesting character, but he doesn't really doesn't seem to have his own goals, outside of helping River. But maybe a new movie could give him some.

Maybe a little something that shows whatever Simon and Inara's past connection was, or a race to find a cure for Inara's terminal illness.

Or maybe the Alliance (under new leadership) contracts Mal and his crew to look for a 'cure' of some sort for the reavers under the radar, on account of them not willing to openly admit the problem and their resources stretched thin maintaining order. That could make for interesting conflict, Mal not trusting or wanting anything to do with the Alliance, even under new leadership, and Simon wanting to help people cause that's what he does. Then, as an interesting twist, the Alliance or some rogue faction of it, deploys the PAX as some sort of chemical warfare and Serenity, armed with a cure or countermeasure or something swoops in to save this helpless Rim planet about to be made an example of.


A potential Simon story could also involve his deal to bust River out. We assume he just used money in the deal, but that could always be changed. Maybe he promised more. The group who busted River out might come around to call in their favor and force Simon into a bad situation.

Simon seems like the type to deal with the consequences of his actions. I'd expect him to go through with a favor like that. Of course the rest of the crew would be trying to save him and get him back.

Just another thought for a Simon story that's more about him than River. Which I think is a good idea.

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