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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 1:19 AM

STICKS


Hello all.
right to the point

the " making it open to new people " outset for our bdm has got me a little peeved...whoa wait making new fans is good but my point is this....

i DONT want to see, mal and the others seeing simon and river like they've only just met for the first time. you no what i mean.

the write up for the movie starts with: when mal picks up 2 new passengers a brother and a sister.

NEW ? there NOT bloody new. ok rant over with.


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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 2:05 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


I was kind of hoping that there would some sort of flashback sequence or something of that nature explaining to the uninitiated who Simon & River are and why they are on Serenity. It will be very odd if all the BDHs start acting as if they do not know one another.

The word is that the movie takes place 6 months to a year after the events in OiS. Inara has left the ship and Mal is a dark, brooding Mal, not our jovial Capt Tightpants. If the movie takes place after OiS, how are they going to explain Simon & River just arriving on the ship? Early would never had set foot on Serenity if the Tams were not there.

Should be interesting to see what Joss does w/ it.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."


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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 2:27 AM

NEDWARD


There was a slightly spoilerish AICN review of a screenplay draft back in June:

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=17749

Quote:

The first ten or so pages of Serenity are a lesson in graceful screenwriting – Whedon manages to set up more or less the entire Firefly universe, from Earth-That-Was to the Reavers to the War for Unification to River and Simon and right on down to the ubiquity of the Chinese language all in a concise, folding-flashback format that should prove intriguing to new viewers even as it offers faithful fans of the series some expanded information that hasn’t been explicitly covered before.

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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:01 AM

GOJIRO


A page of screenplay roughly equals a minute of screen time, so it sounds like the first ten minutes is flashback. That's pretty daring, and is usually a huge no-no (flashbacks of any kind are usually huge no-nos in a movie), but it sounds like 'Versal understands the nature of the film and the fans. Plus, perhaps they just trust Joss. I would.

That said, scripts change daily during shooting, so what this lil' lady was reviewing may not be what ends up on screen.

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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:43 AM

NEDWARD


Quote:

Originally posted by gojiro:
That said, scripts change daily during shooting, so what this lil' lady was reviewing may not be what ends up on screen.gojiro

True enough. Also that "ain't it cool news" is English for "with a pinch of salt".

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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 6:52 AM

THEGREYJEDI


Quote:

Originally posted by gojiro:
A page of screenplay roughly equals a minute of screen time, so it sounds like the first ten minutes is flashback. That's pretty daring, and is usually a huge no-no (flashbacks of any kind are usually huge no-nos in a movie)



But in Firefly, we've seen Joss do many "no-nos" like fade to black, zooms and close-ups, and the like. I don't think Joss is afraid to use "cliches" because they've been avoided so long, they're almost new.

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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 11:22 AM

MISGUIDED BY VOICES


Quote:

Originally posted by TheGreyJedi:
But in Firefly, we've seen Joss do many "no-nos" like fade to black, zooms and close-ups, and the like. I don't think Joss is afraid to use "cliches" because they've been avoided so long, they're almost new.



I don't see a problem - not all movies start at the beginning of a relationship for people, and those characters still need to be introduced to the audience.



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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:12 PM

LADYDISDAIN


I have no fears about the BDM (Except for one really wacky dream I had, but we won't go into that here...). If it's a flashback, why shouldn't it work? The theatre version of Lord of the Rings opened with a flashback... and I seem to recall that did okay...

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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:13 PM

JK


I'm thinking of it in terms of 'The Train Job'. What Joss has to do with the film (introduce the world and the people) is a lot like what he had to do in the second episode. After all, the first had done it all beautifully, but now he had to do it again whilst telling a story at the same time. And he did it well. If the BDM is indeed a flashback jobby, fair enough. I'd have thought he'd pull another 'Train Job' (see what I did there? Aren't I just side-splittingly hilarious?), but I suppose he doesn't want to do the same trick twice in his 'verse.

He's not starting from scratch, though; River and Simon don't join the crew at the beginning of the film. This we can be certain of, if we can be certain of nothing else.

JK

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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:35 PM

AURAPTOR

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I just wasn't sure how Joss was going to introduce our BDH's to the vast numbers of newbies who've never seen or only had a vague idea about Firefly. RE-introduce,or just carry on from where we left off, and toss in a couple of flahsbacks to fill in rest of the folks on the historyonics. This is Joss's baby, so I'm not gonna sweat the small stuff. I'm O.K. with him telling his story on the big screen as he sees fit. It's the BIG DAMN MOVIE, and I'm mighty glad about that.

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