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A regular character is a prostitute. Is this a first?

POSTED BY: MOJOECA
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 17:08
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Monday, May 27, 2002 5:16 PM

MOJOECA


*startin' my first thread*

I'm not well-versed at all in the spate of western tv that existed in the 50's and 60's, though I think it unlikely in an era where Lucille Ball couldn't say 'pregnant' that anyone would have tolerated a character of 'ill-repute.'

Nowadays, we do have recurring characters as prostitutes (there's that hooker on The Shield). If Firefly is really just a western with space ships, then you need to explore the 'ambassador' angle of the genre/period. Will there be a conservative backlash? Will anyone care?



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Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:02 AM

SHAMUS


The "madame" at the local saloon was a staple of westerns, on the tube and silver screen. On Bonanza the madame was an opening-credits character. So, if the Doc is a drunk and the preacher a gunslinger, we'll have it all covered ... and then Joss will stand all the cliches on their heads.


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Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:55 AM

RINGWRAITH



Originally posted by shamus:
... and then Joss will stand all the cliches on their heads.




That's what I love about that guy. Think about it, if someone were to come up to you and say they have a great idea for a TV show, it's about a teenage girl who has superhuman strength and she fights vampires and also dates one of them, you'd laugh. I know I would, and in fact the title alone, Buffy the Vampire Slayer was one of the reasons I *didn't* watch the show years ago, and has now become one of my all-time favorites. As G'Kar says in Babylon 5, "No one here is exactly what he appears."

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:40 PM

NOVAGRASS



Originally posted by Ringwraith:

I know I would, and in fact the title alone, Buffy the Vampire Slayer was one of the reasons I *didn't* watch the show years ago, and has now become one of my all-time favorites. As G'Kar says in Babylon 5, "No one here is exactly what he appears."



The title is actually what initially drew me to it! It seemed so strange and weird and cool that I just had to give it a try. And guess what... I was right!

I think Joss has mentioned that he chose the title very carefully, and that there was a *lot* of opposition to it at the WB. He said that the people that weren't open minded enough to watch the show due to its title are not the people he was making the show for.

It's a good thing you gave the show a chance Ringwraith... I bet you're wishing you'd have given it a try earlier!

--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:02 PM

TIEKA



Originally posted by mojoeca:
*startin' my first thread*

I'm not well-versed at all in the spate of western tv that existed in the 50's and 60's, though I think it unlikely in an era where Lucille Ball couldn't say 'pregnant' that anyone would have tolerated a character of 'ill-repute.'
...




I don't think it was a case of not tolerating a hooker, it's just they didn't want it obvious. Everybody knew exactly what Miss Kitty did on Gunsmoke, but for family TV, you just didn't show it.

Today's TV audience is a bit more accepting, so as long as the episode isn't XXX, they can use the character and thier actions to further the plot. (What we need is a male prostitute )

Now what I am looking forward to is the small town sheriff. Whether they are a drunk, or are seriously trying to do a good job, I've always been fascinated with the sheriff. Especially when they were criminals to start with and then converted to law abiding citizen.

Tieka,
for the house!

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Wednesday, May 29, 2002 5:08 PM

PHOENIX


Also, Marg Helgenberger's K.C Koloski character on China Beach was openly a prostitute.

T.H. Phoenix

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