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Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:25 AM
MIKER
Once I found Serenity
Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:54 AM
MUTT999
Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:04 AM
Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:27 AM
ZEEK
Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:46 AM
Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:54 PM
BYTEMITE
Quote:Originally posted by Zeek: I think it's still unclear whether he turned on Mal in Serenity or not. I tend to think he took the Fed's offer. I think he gave him a way to cut himself free so that he'd be able to claim he didn't know how he got loose if things didn't work out.
Quote:Jayne might not like Mal, but he does respect him as a man, and as the Captain.
Thursday, May 29, 2014 5:06 PM
OONJERAH
Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MUTT999: And don't forget that in Ariel, Jayne has a change of heart and tries to get River and Simon out before the Feds arrive, but he's too late.
Thursday, May 29, 2014 8:07 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Friday, May 30, 2014 3:29 AM
VERASAMUELS
Friday, May 30, 2014 9:53 AM
Friday, May 30, 2014 2:11 PM
Quote:Jayne is family/crew [according to Mal's definition]. Jayne is more than 'just a thug'.
Friday, May 30, 2014 5:47 PM
Friday, May 30, 2014 10:15 PM
Friday, May 30, 2014 11:46 PM
EBFIDDLER
Quote:Originally posted by MIKER: Why in Serenity when the Alliance mole offered Jayne the reward did Jayne not turn on the captain? He was offered enough to get his own ship; a nice ship. So why did he not take it?
Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:12 AM
Saturday, May 31, 2014 11:17 AM
Monday, June 2, 2014 7:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MIKER: Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: I think that all of that probably does apply EB, but I think Jayne was also kinda hedging his bets what with sneaking something to Dobson to cut his bindings. That way he had plausible deniability in case it didn't work out. I seem to remember Jayne's face showing an intense look of interest when asking the Fed agent, "How Much" in the pilot Serenity.
Quote:Originally posted by BYTEMITE: I think that all of that probably does apply EB, but I think Jayne was also kinda hedging his bets what with sneaking something to Dobson to cut his bindings. That way he had plausible deniability in case it didn't work out.
Monday, June 2, 2014 8:50 PM
DICKKING
Monday, June 2, 2014 8:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by ebfiddler: Quote:Originally posted by MIKER: Why in Serenity when the Alliance mole offered Jayne the reward did Jayne not turn on the captain? He was offered enough to get his own ship; a nice ship. So why did he not take it? Jayne looks after Jayne's interest. He's not dumb, he has street smarts. He is uneducated and ignorant, but not stupid. I think what it comes down to is that he decided it was not in his best interest to turn on Mal at that point. Dobson said he'd give him money, enough to buy his own ship. But Dobson had done nothing to impress Jayne with his abilities at that stage, had no track record with Jayne of making good on his promises, and Mal, on the other hand, had. After all, when Mal first met Jayne, he turned around a situation in which he was held at gunpoint, and made good on his promises -- bunk to himself, no sad seven, and all that. Jayne already knows that Mal could, and would, turn him away, hurt him, or kill him, if he thought it necessary. (He'd already shut Jayne down and made him leave the table, with little more than a look, earlier in the episode.) My conclusion is that Jayne was unwilling to accept Dobson's vague promises of money and put himself in the hands of a Fed -- why would he want to put himself in the hands of the Feds? It wasn't a better deal than sticking with Mal, doing the job that Mal was doing, and getting paid his share for that job.
Wednesday, June 4, 2014 6:59 PM
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