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"Happy Gilmore" Neilsen ratings

POSTED BY: DOUG
UPDATED: Sunday, November 24, 2002 19:08
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Saturday, November 23, 2002 1:12 PM

DOUG


The movie "Happy Gilmore," airing for the umpteenth time Friday night in the FIREFLY/JOHN DOE time slots, scored a 4.3/8 in the Neilsens. That's not good news. This tells Fox that there are people out there on Fridays willing to watch Fox.


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Saturday, November 23, 2002 1:22 PM

HOBBES


(Tugging at collar) Gulp.

That movie has been on so many times it's insane - and it still gets a better rating then most Firefly episodes?

This is bad.

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Saturday, November 23, 2002 2:03 PM

DOUG


Exactly Hobbes. I hope that FOX will realize from this that if they really want to support FIREFLY they have to move it out of that Friday night timeslot. Otherwise, FIREFLY is going to end up collecting dust on some shelf along with VR5, STRANGE LUCK, THE VISITOR, FREAKYLINKS, and LONE GUNMEN.

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Saturday, November 23, 2002 2:15 PM

HOBBES


Not to mention Harsh Realm, and of course - SAAB.

I think Monday nights at 9 PM would be good, after all that slot is open since Girls Club vanished.

The funny thing is that Firelfy is the #6 Sci-Fi show last week, according to that sidebar at Sci Fi Wire. Ahead of Angel, and Enterprise,and just behind Buffy - but they are on smaller networks.

Oh, and those "Happy Gilmore" ratings are the overnight, right - which means they will probably go up (I think)

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Saturday, November 23, 2002 2:18 PM

DELVO


This is nothing. Specials and movies routinely score higher than the regular series in the same time slots on the same networks. That's why the networks put them there for sweeps periods. It's common knowledge. And if you say that this particular movie has been on a lot, then that should tell you that it must keep doing well, so OF COURSE it was to be expected that it would get good ratings.

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Saturday, November 23, 2002 2:21 PM

HOBBES


Then why doesn't Fox just replace Firefly with a constant stream of specials and movies?

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Saturday, November 23, 2002 3:22 PM

OUTLANDER


The reason why Fox doesn’t show movies every week is because even though they got a 4.3 this week there is no guaranty that they will get the same ratings next week and the week after and so on. At least with Firefly they know they are going to get a consistent 2.9 every week and have potential to get even higher ratings over time. It makes more sense for Fox to have a show with a strong core audience which they can build on than having to select a different movie every week, giving them wildly fluctuating gatings with no core audience to build on.

In The Immortal Words of Douglas Adams DON'T PANIC

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Saturday, November 23, 2002 3:53 PM

HOBBES


Now I understand, thank you.


DON'T PANIC - The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. entry Earth - Harmless. Later amended to - Mostly Harmless.

Gotta love those books, though I think the first 3 were the best.

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May the wind be always at your back.
May you be in heaven an hour before
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Saturday, November 23, 2002 4:32 PM

DELVO


Actually, the put-in-another-movie-every-time thing has been tried by some channels at some time slots. But the results weren't ever nearly as good as a good series, and sometimes were worse than a bad one. And they'd usually try to sell it as a faux-series ("movies for guys who like movies") or turn it into a series by adding their own material (the one with the "hosts" cooking different recipes and commenting on the movies at the start or end of each commercial break).

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Saturday, November 23, 2002 4:35 PM

HOBBES


I see you've watched TBS (or at least a channel that does the exact same thing still).

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Saturday, November 23, 2002 5:28 PM

DOUG


Delvo makes a good point that might apply to other networks on other nights. But you have to look at FOX's history on Friday nights over the past decade. All those shows that Hobbes and I listed were gone in less than a season, and most performed better than FIREFLY. FOX doesn't seem to possess that wait-and-let-the-ratings-build attitude anymore, not since THE X-FILES anyway. Perhaps FOX should abandon science-fiction on Fridays and try HAPPY GILMORE: THE SERIES.

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Sunday, November 24, 2002 6:48 AM

KLAUREL


Well, duh! The 18-35 or so crowd would be the ones that are interested in Firefly. And most of that age are out that nite as they have a life, and of course, also, many won't qualify as a "Nielsen family".

Fox really needs to put it on Tuesday or Sunday, tag teaming it with Angel or Buffy, with the established Joss Whedon audience.

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Sunday, November 24, 2002 3:32 PM

CHRISSY


Fox is totally unreliable when it comes to series loyalty. They produce an interesting show, get people committed to watching it, then yank it, leaving the faithful "high and dry".

After my experience with "that 80's show" (yes, I know it was silly, but it was also fun) I should know better than to get hooked on another Fox series, but...

As far as "Happy Gilmore", and "the Brady" movie that's supposed to air next week instead of Firefly, I've got better things to do...

a discerning viewer

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Sunday, November 24, 2002 7:08 PM

SAINTOFCHEESE


WHY CAN'T FIREFLY BE ON ANY OTHER STATION! *sigh*

~*Saint of Cheese*~

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