I liked the old Kaylee Better! by SimonSays

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I liked the old Kaylee Better!

POSTED BY: SIMONSAYS
UPDATED: Friday, October 14, 2005 20:40
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Sunday, October 9, 2005 9:22 PM

I thought that the old, full figured, Firefly Kaylee was a lot sexier than the new Serenity Kaylee.

Remember what LOUIS VUITTON said: "It's in the bag!"

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Monday, October 10, 2005 12:28 AM

THELONECROUTON

My only complaint about Kaylee in the BDM is that she didn't have nearly enough screen time.

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Monday, October 10, 2005 12:45 AM

DAELUS

Yet she had some of the best lines in the film.

"My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."

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Monday, October 10, 2005 12:56 AM

RELFEXIVE

Can't we all just accept that she's simply gorgeous however she looks? Even when she's all made up as a half-Wraith?

I mean... have you not seen the pictures from the LA premiere?

Mind you... it's hard to choose between the Firefly ladies really, isn't it? We're not really spoiled for choice, after all... mmmm...

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Monday, October 10, 2005 1:15 AM

KHIMBAR

My other half was disappointed that she didn't wear her dungarees or overalls as shes got a pair of Kaylee dungarees with a Serenity patch on which she wore to the preview. Mind you I was in my Blue Sun tshirt and I'm not sure anyone recognised that!

Curse you Birmingham and your apathy!

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Monday, October 10, 2005 1:30 AM

HAPPENSTANCE

I did think she looked a bit off in the movie but still damn fine! I quite liked her longer hair in Serenity aswell.

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Monday, October 10, 2005 3:48 AM

WEICHI

SPOILER POTENTIAL

As folk here no doubt no, Jewel had to gain 20lbs to be the Kaylee we all know and love. Not reasonable for her to do that for a movie - I know others have done it, but it was not necessary. I think she looked shiny, but I sympathize.

I think anyone with a favorite character will have some disapointments with the film. It seemed liked three episodes worth of fun, but we did not get three episodes worth of everyone.

We got plenty of Mal, of course, and plenty of River. Zoe did ok I think, and Jayne had his moments. Wash and Book?, well what can I say, they did have their moments. Inara and Kaylee seemed to have faired the worst in big moments - I suspect alot of Inara is on the cutting room floor, and we did not see any of mechanical genius Kaylee, things were so dark we did not see much of always cheerful Kaylee, and her great moments - and they were great - were strictly the yearning Kaylee.

But I think they all were true to what we knew before.

Cept Simon - I suspect he was everything a Simon fan might want him to be, but that was not the Simon from the show - he was much stronger, and I missed the socially awkward moments.

See how I'm not punching him, I think I've grown!

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Monday, October 10, 2005 4:20 AM

ENGINEANGEL

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Inara and Kaylee seemed to have faired the worst in big moments - I suspect alot of Inara is on the cutting room floor, and we did not see any of mechanical genius Kaylee, things were so dark we did not see much of always cheerful Kaylee, and her great moments - and they were great - were strictly the yearning Kaylee.

A lot of Inara is on the cutting room floor. There were some more Inara scenes. The only place where I think it was obvious that they cut stuff out of, was when Zoe says "sir" and Mal say "just tell me when we get there". I think there must have been something before that. It doesn't flow as well as the rest.

I agree with you about Kaylee - especially in the beginning of the film when she says "he'll be back befor eyou can spit. Not that you spit." I could tell what Joss was getting at, but i heard some people around me say "What?" I don't blame them. I also don't think that a lot of people saw what a great meachanic she was. I think she got better later on in the movie, though still notour Kaylee.

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But I think they all were true to what we knew before.
Cept Simon - I suspect he was everything a Simon fan might want him to be, but that was not the Simon from the show - he was much stronger, and I missed the socially awkward moments.

did anyone notice that in this movie Simon could lie wonderfully but in Jaynestown he was a bumbling idiot when lying?

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Monday, October 10, 2005 4:39 AM

PSYCHICRIVER

Thats how she is and she looks dayum good!!

This type of thing offends and upsets Jewel! Read her blog. http://users.ev1.net/~alternity/abadeo/jewel_staite/Jewel.html

And she does read here occasionally.

Think about it. Imagine Summer got like really fat between the time of Firefly and Serenity (wouldn't happen, I know.) would people be making threads saying that they liked the old Summer better?

PsychicRiver

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Monday, October 10, 2005 4:50 AM

DONCOAT

According to her interview for Empire Online (linked from another thread), Jewel was asked to gain 25 pounds to play Kaylee in Firefly. They compromised on 15 pounds, which she lost after the series was cancelled.

When it came time for the movie, Jewel didn't want to put the weight back on, and Joss told her he didn't care if she stayed thin.

We could, I suppose, see this as evidence of the lean times that have befallen Serenity's crew in the gap between the series and the movie.

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Monday, October 10, 2005 4:53 AM

In terms of looks I think I prefer the new Kaylee. But she doesn't fit the part as well. Her screen time was disappointing, but could they have really had her in it any more? For Serenity 2 the plot should be designed with 'have more kaylee' as one of the main criteria.

I didn't think Kaylee was the most changed character, that award would go to Simon. When did Simon becomes a badass?? He punched Mal and everything, awesome. I think I like the new Simon more

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Monday, October 10, 2005 5:06 AM

Mal must have been a bad influence on him, too. Everyone seems to wind up hitting him.

JK

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Monday, October 10, 2005 7:05 AM

VERASNEWOWNER

I had no problem with Kaylee in Serenity, so shes lost the weight, i didnt even notice that much until i really looked.

Aslong as the lines are well written and acted, im not bothered, apart from lack of screen time.

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Monday, October 10, 2005 1:20 PM

BRUISERSMOM

I thought the same thing. I posted my response on a SoCal Browncoats Yahoo board. Basically, I liked the courage that it took to put an actress that looked thin but not starving on the screen in Firefly. It made Kaylee more approachable and her personality more endearing. Her body was like part of her costume in that way.

"You can keep a dog; but it is the cat who keeps people, because cats find humans useful domestic animals."--George Mikes

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Monday, October 10, 2005 1:25 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

*curse you and your inevitable double post! *

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Monday, October 10, 2005 1:26 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by SimonSays:
I thought that the old, full figured, Firefly Kaylee was a lot sexier than the new Serenity Kaylee.

Remember what LOUIS VUITTON said: "It's in the bag!"

Just think of her as having gone on a crash diet, from thems not having enough coin to buy enough oaty bars. Jayne looks a bit thinner too, but becasue of his muscle, it doesn't show as well. Thinner Kaylee is still sexy as all get out. Maybe TOO sexy for a ship's mechanic.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Monday, October 10, 2005 1:50 PM

SQWISHIE

Hey folks. Honestly I am a bit lost in the woods here, was Kaylee heavier? Really? I didn't know that, I couldn't tell. Obviously some can to turn it into some kind of discussion, when others (me) really had no clue at all.

Rachel C.

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Monday, October 10, 2005 5:59 PM

CHRISTHECYNIC

Since this has come up here:
Simon was always a badass.

Now I have a feeling that everyone is looking at their screens funny having read that, but hear me out, it only takes one sentence.

Simon jumped off the catwalk to save River.

There, I have proven he was a badass. If you are not convinced you can read more at your own risk. I will use only the catwalk as an example from the series because it’s more than enough.

It takes a lot more guts to do something immediately and visibly dangerous than to put yourself in a situation that will result in almost certain death. That fall could have easily killed him. I knew an army Parachuter who broke his ankle as a result of a completely controlled jump off a two-foot tall ladder. (Ironically it was part of a demonstration to say, "If you do things right it is no more dangerous than this.") I broke my arm quite thoroughly from a height of three feet.

Simon jumped down a hell of a lot more than that, and he must have treated people who were injured from falls at the hospital. It doesn’t take much, people are fragile, he’s a doctor, he has to know that. That could have easily killed or crippled him (or just as easily left him completely unharmed, but work with me here) and he did it anyway.

When it comes to River he was always a badass.

What we see in Serenity starts out with him using a non-lethal weapon and putting himself in a position where the real danger started long after he was unable to back out. I think the catwalk thing took a hell of a lot more badassness than that. Cut to the present and he’s hitting Mal, someone not incredibly likely to damage him in response, in defense of River. Later on he stands up to Mal again, and it all ends up with a dramatic fight in which he is no more badass than Kaylee.

(Ha! I did manage to vaguely connect it to the thread’s topic.)

I’m not a "Simon fan," I like the character, love the character even, but that doesn’t make him any different from the rest. I just really didn’t see a change in him other than being less socially awkward, but that would come from being stuck with the crew for that long. Hell, we saw that change starting in the series.

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Monday, October 10, 2005 7:22 PM

SQWISHIE

Quote:
Simon was always a badass.

Simon jumped off the catwalk to save River.

There, I have proven he was a badass.

Well that convinced me..!

Simon kicks ASS.

Rachel C.

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Friday, October 14, 2005 7:08 PM

SIMONSAYS

Quote:
Originally posted by PsychicRiver:
Thats how she is and she looks dayum good!!

This type of thing offends and upsets Jewel! Read her blog. http://users.ev1.net/~alternity/abadeo/jewel_staite/Jewel.html

And she does read here occasionally.

Think about it. Imagine Summer got like really fat between the time of Firefly and Serenity (wouldn't happen, I know.) would people be making threads saying that they liked the old Summer better?

PsychicRiver

"Two by two, hands of blue."
"We'll take care of each other. I'll knit!"
"I swallowed a bug."

"I love Matt, he's great!!" Summer Glau, re me!

There is a lot of pressure on people, especially women, to be thin! My point is.....women don't have to be thin to look good! I was merely stating, that in my humble opinion, she looked better in Firefly. Heavy or thin Kaylee (Jewel) is HOT!

Remember what LOUIS VUITTON said: "It's in the bag!"

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Friday, October 14, 2005 7:18 PM

JCDELATORRE

Well, Inara has always had me drooling but Kaylee is so cute and sexy. Like someone else said, Its hard to choose one of Serenity's women. They're all beautiful.

JC De La Torre
Author of Ancient Rising
[url] http://www.delatorrewriting.com/ancientrising.html [/url]

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Friday, October 14, 2005 7:22 PM

SIMONSAYS

<---Jayne making an attitude adjustment

<---Reaver after run in with Jayne

<---Simon greeting Kaylee

<---River kicking some Reaver butt

Remember what LOUIS VUITTON said: "It's in the bag!"

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Friday, October 14, 2005 8:40 PM

SIMONSAYS

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Originally posted by jcdelatorre:
Well, Inara has always had me drooling but Kaylee is so cute and sexy. Like someone else said, Its hard to choose one of Serenity's women. They're all beautiful.

JC De La Torre
Author of Ancient Rising
[url] http://www.delatorrewriting.com/ancientrising.html [/url]

That's funny.....Inara always had me stuttering!

Remember what LOUIS VUITTON said: "It's in the bag!"

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