The virtual series (3) by LegalBegal

Just wanted to start a new one as the old one was getting a bit large again.

G tell me what your thinking.

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Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:21 AM

Good thing you started a new thread.

And I'm not G, but had a couple questions anyway.

Isn't Isis a moon of Osiris? Or did I make that up? If it's the case, that would make it Tam Central. Bad news. Or, very risky and therefore exciting. Also, I could have made it up.

Then I forgot my second question.

Sarah

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Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:46 AM

I think it was originally called Iris, but a typo kind of stuck. Unless that was something I wanted to call it and the typo was mine to begin with.

All this has made me realize that I really need a computer at home. Trying to keep up is confusing, especially since G is in Texas and I'm in Jersey. But, there are good points, I'm exercising more brain cells than I have since college!

Legal:
Who's Phil?

Haken:
Where's our room?

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WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?

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Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:38 AM

Again, not the person you asked the question of, but Phil, I think, is short for Philomel. See her fic. She writes phenomenal. She write specifically phenomenal Zoe. But also, otherwise, tremendous writing in general.

Had to get in there to give her huge props cos she beta'd by "The Heart of Her" so well and hopefully she'll do more in the future.

And hopefully, too, we'll work together on Virtual Episode #5 "Washtastic." That's a working title. :)

If we get to ep 5. There are a lot of cooks fretting over this soup.

Which is my cue to bug out, probably, and to stop answering questions directed at other people. :)

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Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:02 AM

KAYLEEHOLIC

So, as I understand it ...

Virtual Season

Ep 1. Objects In Motion I/II LostAngel & Co

Meet Hui. Agree to do job. Someone plants bomb on Serenity. Shuttle crashes.

Ep 2. Objects At Rest II/II LostAngel & Co

OIM but from the point of view of Inara, Book, Jayne and River who r stranded on Isis.

Ep 3. Kaywinnit Lee Fry: Registered Companion Kayleeholic & Co

Inara is ill and Kaylee is forced to impersonate her with Jayne masquerading as her client. But an unexpected appearance of Atherton Wing complicates things ...

Ep 4. Testimony

It features the Reavers.

Ep 5. Washtastic

A flashback episode in the spirit of Out of Gas.

Ep 6. The Importance of Being Inara

didn't someone mention something about Inara having doubts about being a companion ? Maybe this episode could be slipped in after Ep 3 to form a looser two parter than Ep 1 and Ep 2 ...

Ep 7. TBA
Ep 8. TBA
Ep 9. TBA

I think we need to decide on the details first of the character relationships.

Such as:

Kaylee/Simon - kiss at the end of OIM and have a 'relationship' through to (?) when she realises that he can't love her until River is better.

Kaylee/Jayne - previously feelings expressed as a big brother figure become romantic and, after her relationship with Simon ends, temporarily takes up with Jayne ( just a rebound though )( and even considers whether she 'loves' Inara ) ...

NOTE: Perhaps the couple split up in 3 and in 4 (work: The Importance of Being Inara) considers whether she could fall in love with Inara ?

Jayne - someone suggested Jayne forming some sort of friendship with River. Perhaps he discovers a vital link about her but chooses to keep it secret ( for monetary reasons ? ) but must keep her alive until she can be cured ?

Book - is he former Military or is he related to the Blue Hand Project ?

Opinions ?

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Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:41 AM

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Ep 1. Objects In Motion I/II LostAngel & Co

Meet Hui. Agree to do job. Someone plants bomb on Serenity. Shuttle crashes.

Ep 2. Objects At Rest II/II LostAngel & Co

OIM but from the point of view of Inara, Book, Jayne and River who r stranded on Isis.

Actually there wont be a shuttle crash in these two.

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Ep 3. Kaywinnit Lee Fry: Registered Companion Kayleeholic & Co

Inara is ill and Kaylee is forced to impersonate her with Jayne masquerading as her client. But an unexpected appearance of Atherton Wing complicates things ...

Yep and EP 4 will be Testimony

The crew of serenity journey to a supply depot on the edge of space. While at the depot they pick up two Religious Pilgrams looking for transport.

Oh and the Reavers will be in this one.

I think well move Ep 6. The Importance of Being Inara into the 5 spot. Making Ep 6 Washtastic. Then we will move on to the episode tentitivley titled Panic in which the ship is highjacked by Badger.

Next we need Ep 8, 9 and 10. Any ideas here.

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Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:53 AM

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Originally posted by kayleeholic:
I think we need to decide on the details first of the character relationships.

Agreed

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Such as:

Kaylee/Simon - kiss at the end of OIM and have a 'relationship' through to (?) when she realises that he can't love her until River is better.

If she desides she cant love him in an episode such as this we are going to need a River story. Most likely one in which River's condition forces Simon to leave a function he and Kaylee are at. Some sort of date. He's gonna take her out but as River deteriates he has to keep putting it off untill she finally gives up on going out with him.

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Kaylee/Jayne - previously feelings expressed as a big brother figure become romantic and, after her relationship with Simon ends, temporarily takes up with Jayne ( just a rebound though )( and even considers whether she 'loves' Inara ) ...

NOTE: Perhaps the couple split up in 3 and in 4 (work: The Importance of Being Inara) considers whether she could fall in love with Inara ?

I don't know about the Idea of her loving Inara maby though we will see what the writer does if he/ she wants to it is fine but will have to rearange the eps a bit so their breakup occurs before this.

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Jayne - someone suggested Jayne forming some sort of friendship with River. Perhaps he discovers a vital link about her but chooses to keep it secret ( for monetary reasons ? ) but must keep her alive until she can be cured ?

this is an excellent idea I like the thought of him forming a mutual relationship with River and maby some sort of relationship with Simon.

Book - is he former Military or is he related to the Blue Hand Project? I still think it was probably inteligence or something but we will see.

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Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:41 AM

Legal:

Thanks for setting me straight on the order of things. G-man (Guailo) and I are halfway through the first episode, and I'm just waiting on him to finish work before we continue.

BTW, don't mind my constantly renaming people. It might be a local thing.

Are there any deadlines or anything?

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WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?

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Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:22 AM

No deadlines on the first few but once we get going and stuff I would like to set up some deadlines just so that if we say we are going to post an episode every week for so long or every other week we can.

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Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:29 PM

DANIELKURLAND

I am ready to start some episode after the planned one with Inara. I have also written the first episode which I was told to do and that it will contain 6 acts. I guess it won't be used though since apparently LA is writing it. That's fine.

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Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:51 PM

Daniel your episode Panic is now episode number 7.

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Friday, January 31, 2003 3:59 AM

Daniel:

You don't have to throw it in the scrap heap. I'm sure that people would still like to read it. It's not like this is for money or anything, just to tide us over until Joss gets things back on track.

Just because Gauilo and I are writing a script for episode I that doesn't mean you can't too. I would love to read it, and I'm sure I'm not alone. We were all assigned the episodes we were so that it would break up the work and we wouldn't have too many people on one idea and not enough on another.

Post your script, I definitely would like to read it, as reading fanfic is the only way that I can get my Simon fix, and since you have had more experience than I have, I could definitely learn something from you.

don't be mad?!

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WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?

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Friday, January 31, 2003 4:56 AM

Thanks for the above post LA. I think and hope that we have everything worked out now. Will see soon enough.

When you finish an ep you can email it to me at legal_chaos@yahoo.com thanks and have a great day.

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Friday, January 31, 2003 8:12 AM

About those of us who are working on (or fixin' to work on) later eps-- will we get notes on arcs? Or will we wait for the eps to go online or whatever?

Chomping at the bit.

Sarah

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Friday, January 31, 2003 9:25 AM

LOSTSAINT

Sad to say Firefly on the usenet is now deceased.

I do not think that Kaylee would give up on Simon, she is one of those women that know what they want and quietly work toward it.

Kaylee comes across as one of those women that men remember fondly if she is there mother, or the mother of a friend. She is not flighty and probably comes across as very forgiving, plus Jayne, Book, Mal and Zoe would stomp anyone in a mudhole that upset her.

I am sorry I can see Kaylee on the farm with a half dozen kids looking positively beatific.

Good luck with the order and I hope my take on Kaylee is on the mark.

pops

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Friday, January 31, 2003 10:49 AM

DANIELKURLAND

Thanks, yeha I decided to finish up the script, but yours will be the actual episode. Thanks for letting write episode 7 which I may start once I am done this one. I think yo might have been implying that may current script becoems episode 7, but most of its aspects are from episode 1, so it just wouldn't work. Oh, and I am glad you like Simon, I do too and I gave him some great stuff in the episode too. I hope you enjoy them. Thanks again.

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Friday, January 31, 2003 11:57 AM

OK that will work daniel.

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Monday, February 3, 2003 12:51 PM

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If she desides she cant love him in an episode such as this we are going to need a River story. Most likely one in which River's condition forces Simon to leave a function he and Kaylee are at. Some sort of date. He's gonna take her out but as River deteriates he has to keep putting it off untill she finally gives up on going out with him

I think that Simon acts the way he does towards Kaylee as a front anyway. He's rude, stand-off-ish and generally pissy when others are around with him and Kaylee because he's afraid they'll get close and his priority is River. It's all defense mechanism, in my interpretation of things anyway.

That's kinda how I'm going to approach things in OIM/OAR anyhow. I'm gonna make Kaylee the aggressor, to a certain extent pin him down to make a decision, and it takes crashing in a shuttle to do it. Simon is too dense and self centered otherwise.

Mal: “The next time you decide to stab me in the back, have the guts to do it to my face.”

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Monday, February 3, 2003 1:17 PM

Hey all,

Just dropping by to give you a story idea I came up with a while back while I was staying overnight at a friend's house, trying unsuccessfully to sleep without the aid of the bedtime meds I forgot to pick up before heading over there. Anyhoo, here's the gist of it:

Simon and Kaylee are having a serious "off-again" phase in their relationship when Serenity picks up some passengers. One passenger, whom we'll call Dann, is smitten with Kaylee and starts trying to charm her. His efforts are rewarded with interest on the part of the lovely Miss Frye, making Simon noticeably jealous. Some time later, Dann is injured and rushed to the infirmary, only to die on the operating table. We are left questioning whether Simon did all he could to save his patient's life...

What do you think?

Here lies my darling wife Zoe, my autumn flower.
Not quite so attractive now she's all corpsified and gross.

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Monday, February 3, 2003 1:31 PM

Actually, it might just be a grand little story as a number 8 and it woul dgive a place to head to between me and LostAngel's two parter where Simon and Kaylee "hook up".

Good one.

Mal: “The next time you decide to stab me in the back, have the guts to do it to my face.”

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Monday, February 3, 2003 2:18 PM

Who would do the questioning?

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Monday, February 3, 2003 2:49 PM

"We", the 'viewer' would question. What he's suggesting is disrupting the Simon/Kaylee relationship by using "uncertainty" as the conflict. However, in his idea, the conflict is indirect.

If you mean, "Which character would 'question' if Simon allowed him to die or truthfully couldn't save the man." Then the answer is "everyone on board." Whedon has been adamant about the idea that the show was based on the universe seen through the eyes of the group, and each one sees things differently.

I would say that it's going to have to be thought out a lot more to make and episode out of. Stretching that over an hour will be tough, but it can be done.

Also, the "answer" to the question has to start off clear in your mind when you write it, but then come up with the bits that make it vague. In other words, start off with "yes, Simon really tried to save the guy" but then put the circumstances surrounding everything into question. Or take it the other way (although I think Simon would only kill to protect/save River).

Mal: “The next time you decide to stab me in the back, have the guts to do it to my face.”

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Monday, February 3, 2003 4:01 PM

Now, now, I never said the audience should think that Simon deliberately killed his patient. They should think that he may have decided against a procedure that might save him, and rationalized his decision, or something like that. As far as how to establish that... maybe another of the passengers is a med student who's watching Simon and says something to the effect of "why aren't you trying (insert name of procedure)?"

Here lies my darling wife Zoe, my autumn flower.
Not quite so attractive now she's all corpsified and gross.

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Monday, February 3, 2003 4:35 PM

Yeah, that's what I meant. That the question is raise is often enough to keep th eaudience guessing, particularly if Simon has nothing to say as a response.

The hypocratic oath is very touchy in the sense that it is a promise to "do no harm" and if the cal that Simon makes is that action would cause undue harm rather than help, then that is what could be in question. Sometimes doctors have to decide to let patients die because doing anything else just isn't "help".

Mal: “The next time you decide to stab me in the back, have the guts to do it to my face.”

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Tuesday, February 4, 2003 5:59 AM

G:
Hey Buddy, funny seeing you here! (LOL

)

I like the idea. It could stretch into #8 for an hour because there would be the thrilling actions scenes that make him all hurt and leaky in the first place. It might even take yet another episode for Kaylee for forgive him, especially with the previous scenes of Simon with holding treatment flashing back in her mind (flashbacks take up time too.)

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WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?

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Tuesday, February 4, 2003 6:15 AM

My thoughts exactly.

I'd like to help out on this, but I warn you that I have absolutely NIL experience with creative writing.

One thought is to have Reavers involved-- either they board the ship and the crew barely manages to kill them all ('cuz they can't be driven off) or they try to board, but the crew pulls off some daring stunt that destroys the Reaver ship before they can get aboard. Either way, Dann gets all woundified and I... I mean he... dies tragically for daring to love Kaylee.

Early: You ever been raped, Kaylee?
Kaylee: You know, it's funny you should mention that... ever heard of the Fox network?

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Tuesday, February 4, 2003 6:18 AM

See if you can find a writing buddy. Guailo and I are teaming up, and I think Sarah and Phil are too. Besides, there'll be plenty of comments to steer you straight.

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WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?

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Tuesday, February 4, 2003 7:33 AM

I offer myself up as a writing buddy.

Philomel and I are working together on "Washtastic." I love that y'all ran with that, btw.

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Tuesday, February 4, 2003 7:45 AM

Thanx.

Email me haplo781 at adelphia dot net.

Early: You ever been raped, Kaylee?
Kaylee: You know, it's funny you should mention that... ever heard of the Fox network?

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Tuesday, February 4, 2003 10:08 AM

How about a situation where:

(A) The Reavers are sacking a ship and Serenity picks up thier distress signal

(B) They must decide wether to help or leave them

(C) The passengers (colonists perhaps?) unaware of the real danger decide to take control of Serenity and change her course to intercept

(D) Serenity's crew attack, kill off the Reavers, only to find out that the ship was the rest of the colonists to who the passengers belong.

(E) Dann is severely injured in the liberation raid and dies

How's that? Just some ideas...

Mal: ?The next time you decide to stab me in the back, have the guts to do it to my face.?

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Wednesday, February 5, 2003 8:26 AM

Excellent ideas for another great story. I have one comment though I dontthink they would be able to take over the ship with everyone on board.

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Wednesday, February 5, 2003 8:37 AM

Who wouldn't be able to take over a ship with everyone on board? Reavers?

My take on Reavers is that that is precisely what the do - come on board, kill everyone, take some losses and replace those with what few survivors are left. It would be rare that even a distress call woul dbe sent except by the Reavers after the fact to lure other ships in.

My input was following this logic, stepping on from what was initially suggested:

Some colonists are split up. Group A stays behind only to find out that Group B went on in precisely the direction into space they argued and split over in the first place - a path taking them close to Reaver space.

Group A hires Serenity to take them along the path knowing, but not mentioning, the potential plight of Group B. The distress is picked up, Serenity goes in and surprises the Reavers in the process. A rescue is reluctantly mounted and in the boarding battle, Dann is severly injured and eventually dies.

Al that is set against the back drop of Dann being a colonist, Kaylee being a former colonist, and the triangle betwee them and Simon.

I think that would make a great story.

Which "who" were you refering to, LB?

Mal: “The next time you decide to stab me in the back, have the guts to do it to my face.”

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Thursday, February 6, 2003 9:42 AM

Sarah- got your email but am having trouble responding. I think we need to wait a while before starting the story. See what all's goin' on in the ones preceedin' it. Plus I'm workin' on a Firefly RPG ATM.

Early: You ever been raped, Kaylee?
Kaylee: You know, it's funny you should mention that... ever heard of the Fox network?

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Friday, February 7, 2003 6:14 PM