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Book's past
Friday, January 20, 2006 2:39 AM
PHATCORNS
Friday, January 20, 2006 4:34 AM
NANDIFAN
Friday, January 20, 2006 4:39 AM
MALFORPRESIDENT
Friday, January 20, 2006 4:49 AM
GWEK
Friday, January 20, 2006 5:03 AM
AMITON
Friday, January 20, 2006 6:26 AM
BROWNCOAT1
May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.
Friday, January 20, 2006 8:11 AM
Friday, January 20, 2006 8:24 AM
TREVOR
Friday, January 20, 2006 8:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by MalforPresident: There are Comic books? Good thing I have veterans to keep me aware. Tell me how I can get my paws on those...
Friday, January 20, 2006 8:45 AM
NIRVANA
Quote:There is also the obvious weight his ident card carries w/ the Alliance in the episode "Safe".
Friday, January 20, 2006 8:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by nirvana: Quote:There is also the obvious weight his ident card carries w/ the Alliance in the episode "Safe". This is also what intrigues me... If he was an ex-Operative, then why would they show him respect? I think he had some sort of important role to play with the Alliance, but I wonder if it was a more political one. I am curious about how the storyline in the comics explain it -- I am by no means a comic book person, but I am planning on buying the compilation when it comes out at the end of the month.
Friday, January 20, 2006 8:53 AM
Friday, January 20, 2006 9:36 AM
STAKETHELURK
Friday, January 20, 2006 8:52 PM
MISBEHAVIN
Quote:Originally posted by Amiton: ...Also, there is only supposed to be about six months between the end of the series and the BDM, and that's what the comics were written to cover. I'm pretty sure they're considered cannon, so unless they made episodes to rehash what was already written, I don't know that they could fit stuff in between the series and the BDM.
Friday, January 20, 2006 9:36 PM
RCAT
Friday, January 20, 2006 9:53 PM
KYLELITKE
Friday, January 20, 2006 10:09 PM
THUNDAR
Friday, January 20, 2006 11:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Thundar: Maybe Book was the one responsible for Miranda.
Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:04 AM
AERIN
Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:53 AM
SUBTORPMAN
Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:27 AM
QUIXOTIC
Quote:Originally posted by subtorpman: However I am not 100% sure of this as it seems his hand to hand combat skills are not too good. His weapon skill seems to be at a marksman level. Good aim hitting kneecaps.
Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:10 AM
MYCROFTXXX
Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Aerin: After the movie I also thought Book was an ex-operative, retired and continuing the work to build a better world while atoning for his sins. Maybe that's what all operatives do. I never saw any evidence Book was disloyal to the Alliance. If he quit on bad terms the Alliance would not have patched him up and sent him off in Safe. He would be a threat to be eliminated. If Book was an ex-operative the Alliance must have had reason to believe he was completely trustworthy. I can think of two other related options. Book could have been a sleeper operative. Maybe when they dropped him off before Ariel it was actually for a mission. Perhaps since finding River wasn't his mission he decided not to report it. If the Alliance ever thought to ask he could still tell them where she is. Or Book could have left the Alliance and forged influential ID cards for himself. Whether or not he left under friendly conditions, he's smart and well trained enough to stay hidden. But again, I didn't see any signs he opposed the Alliance. I notice he never even seemed upset at about what was done to River. But if Joss said he wasn't an operative...
Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:29 AM
CARTOON
Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:09 AM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:"It means an Operative... That's trouble you've not known.... They'll come at you sideways. That's how They think, that's how They move. Sidle up with a smile. Hit you where you're weak. That sort of man is hard. Kills and never asks why." -Shepherd Book (Alliance Operative, retired, in fear of assassination by Alliance "to keep his official secrets secret"), STM "I don't murder children." -Mal, STM "I do, if I have to. I'm a monster. What I do is evil. I have no allusions about that but it must be done. You will never understand how... -The Operative (Commie MI6/CIA), STM "It's worse than you know." -The Operative (Commie MI6/CIA), STM "It usually is." -Mal, STM "As a member of the FBI execution squad, and of the OSS before that, I was a professional killer. I dealt with both sides, the government and the Families, La Familia, or The Good People, put aside all their differences with Uncle Sam, and even local authorities. That was the type of alliance J. Edgar Hoover had with the Familes. We used the ways of evil. First of all, I'm Jewish. I made my bones for the Luchese Family in 1944, just before I went into the Navy. They were holding a rat in the drunk tank at the Lower East Side precinct house. The cops tossed me in the lockup with the rest of the drunks, then slipped a knife into my pocket. Then I cut him. They let me out of the lockup, packed me in a car, and we [the cops] ditched the knife in the East River. I went down to Atlanta for Mr. Hoover to turn up informants who'd testify against the Ku Klux Klan. I had to join them, fight along side them, carry a baseball bat and bust windows in Baptist churches and synagogues. The most lucrative work I had was for the boys in the Fortune 500 who wanted jobs done but couldn't get the police to do them. The real news never hits the Wall Street Journal. I could pretend I was a homicide dick when I was really going over the police intelligence files to make secret hits for Mr. Hoover. 'Jews are damn smart people, Little Mike,' Brannel said. 'They control everything. Lot's of hebes look like decent white people. That's what makes 'em so dangerous.' 'There's only one thing worse than a nigger,' I said. 'And that's a goddamn fucking Jew! And what do you call a Jew fag? A fuckin' Jew cocksucker,' I said. The Big Man was dead serious: 'Mister, you sure can throw shit. Even I can tell that's pure shit, hot and smokin' right out of the goddamn bull. I'd swear you're a Jew rat sent down here from the government. You're gonna use your hands on somebody and I'm gonna watch.' The car stopped across the street from Temple Israel. I began to pray to myself. I knew God was watching me. We got out of the car and broke into the temple. There was the torah right in front of me. I wanted to kiss it like I was taught to do. I remembered how the rabbi loved the torah. I remembered how my father and brother carried it through the synagogoue. I had learned to read it and revere it. And now I was spitting on their graves. I could hear the Kol Nidra chant as I was committing the gravest of sins. Ray took the silver crowns and carried them away as booty. 'What's going on?' the rabbatical student demanded. 'I'm calling the police,' Cooper said. 'Get him Mike', the Big Man said. I knew this was my test, How could I hurt a rabbi? How could I have gone this far? I caught Mark Cooper by the neck and spun him down the stairs. I jumped on him and gave him a few sharp jabs to his ribs. Then I gave him a sharp rabbit punch to the back of his neck. I threw a hard right to Cooper's stomach, and then a left to his jaw. Then I put more body shots to his ribs. As he dropped to his knees I heard him chanting Kaddish, our prayor for the dead. I threw a right straight to his jaw. Cooper's head snapped out of the Big Man's hands and he flipped over backwards. He lay there unconscious. 'That's only a warning, Jew Boy,' he said to the rabbi. We got into the station wagon and drove off. I just kept asking God for forgiveness in the same breath I cursed J. Edgar Hoover. By the time we reached the temple in Westgate, they had set up a huge cross and set it aflame. Soon the giant windows in the sanctuary began to shatter and it was Kristallnacht all over again. Only this time, I was throwing the bricks and cursing the name of the God of my fathers. To my astonishment, the police just stood there. I tossed a torch through the open window of a police car. Nobody saw me do it, even the asshole cop standing in front of it and screaming, 'Jew, Jew, Jew!' Then the whole police car exploded. Hoover of the FBI had a message for me. My assignment in Atlanta was finished. I was proud of what I did. So what if I was a hitter? I saw what the cops were doing, and the FBI, CIA, and plenty of other government agencies with lots of lettrs that really stand for 'Blow their brains out and don't tell nobody.' I'll tell you something about the law and what it means to be inside it and outside of it. I was both at the same time and you can't tell one from the other. Because law is made by the lawyers for lawyers. It ain't made for people. When you wanna take something that's outside the law and bring it inside the law, you simply change the law. They did the same thing with the numbers racket, and called it a 'lottery'. The Old Man was crazed over an appellate judge out in Kansas. Knew he was bought and paid for. The judge had a real weak spot for little girls, buying and selling them like commodities futures. The local cops couldn't touch him. LBJ threw up his hands and told the Old Man the judge would be in office for 'the rest of his life', then winked. That was all the Old Man needed. They sent me down to do the hit. I gave this Kansas judge hs money's worth. Gun goes right in his mouth and ba-da-boom: the judge's brains are all over the cleaning locker. What a mess. I was an artist. When a guy got hit, he knew he was getting a hit. That's why they call it a hit." —"Michael Milan" (alias, "MI-KUL" = victim/survivor of MKULTRA Mafia/CIA-KGB/NAZI Mind-Kontrol lobotomy program by US Veterans Administration's "hospital" Death-Camp Gulag), OSS-CIA agent, FBI-NYPD homicide detective, Khazar Ashkenazi "Jewish" enforcer and hitman for Sicilian-Mafia, FBI assassin of CIA-KGB agents for Director of FBI J. Edgar Hoover, from his autobiography: "The Squad - the Shocking True Story of J. Edgar Hoover's Private Hit Team, and the US Government's Secret Alliance with Organized Crime", 1989 by Rose Ann Levy and Shadow Lawn Press, Shapolski Publishers, a Berkley Book, Amazon.com Knoxville News Sentinel banner headline: FBI assassinated Martin Luther King. "Ellsberg ties FBI to King shooting." -Knoxville News-Sentinel, Nov 12, 1978. http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/piratenewsrss/message/63 "Half of writing history is hiding the truth." -Mal, STM
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