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'Verse Theory

POSTED BY: UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION
UPDATED: Saturday, February 25, 2006 11:07
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Friday, February 24, 2006 5:50 AM

I was rewatching the episodes when a random thought struck me.....

Is it possible that 500 years ago, when they "left earth", they were actually kicked out? The new solar system with all the moons wasn't a refuge for the teaming masses, it was an Autralian style prison colony!

They packed up all the troublemakers and criminals and sent them out in to space. Meanwhile, back on earth, all the hoidy toidy good-2-shoes are sipping tea and laughing.

Mal and friends are all decendents of troublemakers. The Parliment types are decendents of the warden types and still feel that the people need to be controlled.

Am I nuts here or what?

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"Funny and sexy. You have no idea. And you never will."

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Friday, February 24, 2006 6:49 AM

THEMANTHEYCALLEDJAMES

no, that makes perfect since

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Friday, February 24, 2006 7:16 AM

STILLFREE

They're all in purgatory!

Sorry, read too many silly Lost theories. I thought that was a great show until Firefly came into my life.

Your theory makes perfect sense. It never crossed my mind.

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Friday, February 24, 2006 8:28 AM

CHRISTHECYNIC

The thing is that they were in transit for more than a generation, the trouble makers and their children, and the wardens and the children, would all have been every dead when they got there.

Unless you think being a troublemaker is genetic I think they'd have ironed out and differences by the time the first planet was ready.

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The idea is fun, but I think it's more likely that they left earth like rats from a sinking ship and left the poor (or those they thought useless) to clean up their mess, if possible.

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Friday, February 24, 2006 8:37 AM

MYCROFTXXX

Sounds a bit like "Alien Nation"...

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Friday, February 24, 2006 8:49 AM

UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION

"Unless you think being a troublemaker is genetic"

Wel...based on my sons...hummmmmm

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Friday, February 24, 2006 10:25 AM

ISAACSHEPHERD

That is an interresting theory. They never say too much about the reason for leaving besides numbers. Most Sci-fi series leave Earth because it was destroyed or used up. You'd think that if numbers were getting too great maybe population control would go into effect like in China. It seems possible, or the Alliance's foundations were on the Earth and caused people to leave. Or maybe once the Alliance formed, they wanted to expand their grasp. Who knows? What do people (Alliance) with more power want? More power.
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Friday, February 24, 2006 4:33 PM

CORWYN

Getting EVERYBODY off the Earth is a near impossible task (with Firefly tech). Currently you would need to ship 250,000 every day just to keep the popoulation the same.

Given that, it is likely the rich ones or the ones with something to offer got to go; the meek inherited the earth.

Thank You Kindly.

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Friday, February 24, 2006 4:43 PM

CHRISMOORHEAD

Sounds like the backstory to StarCraft.

Have you ever:
Used your teeth as wire strippers?
Given yourself stitches?
Made improvised munitions with no base supplies?
Pissed in a canteen?
Gone a month without bathing?

If so, you MIGHT just be a !HOOAH MOTHERF*CKER!

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Friday, February 24, 2006 4:55 PM

CHRISTHECYNIC

Quote:
Originally posted by corwyn:
Given that, it is likely the rich ones or the ones with something to offer got to go; the meek inherited the earth.

Finally someone who agrees with me. I've been saying that for ages.

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Saturday, February 25, 2006 8:59 AM

UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION

I play Star Craft...I read alot of history...and I am a Hitch Hiker's Guide fan. I think all the stuff mashed together somehow...LOL

Since the people of earth are really just descendents of phone sanatizers that got shot into space...what do you expect?

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Saturday, February 25, 2006 9:47 AM

ARCADIA

Only a little nuts...

I don't think Joss was lying when he said that Earth was left because it was used up. It was in the show. It was reinforced in the movie. It is a fun thoery... but, I doubt it. Plus, then how do you account for people like Kaylee? :-)

Also, I really don't see the Alliance as the warden types. They're more like... like Mustafa from Brave New World, they think that everything they do they are doing for the best. They end up enslaving the public... but they aren't doing it for spite, or power, or justice, or revenge. They just want everyone to be peaceful and happy, the bastards.

It is an interesting theory, though.

"Objects in Space"
River: It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think...

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Saturday, February 25, 2006 11:07 AM

ASARIAN

Quote:
Originally posted by UnregisteredCompanion:

Is it possible that 500 years ago, when they "left earth", they were actually kicked out? The new solar system with all the moons wasn't a refuge for the teaming masses, it was an Autralian style prison colony!

They packed up all the troublemakers and criminals and sent them out in to space. Meanwhile, back on earth, all the hoidy toidy good-2-shoes are sipping tea and laughing.

Mal and friends are all decendents of troublemakers. The Parliment types are decendents of the warden types and still feel that the people need to be controlled.

Am I nuts here or what?

Let's start with Serenity, the pilot:

ZOE
All those moons --
just like the central planets,
they're as close to Earth-That-Was as
we could make 'em: atmosphere,
gravity and such, but...

MAL
Once they're terraformed, they'll
dump settlers on there with nothing
but blankets and hatchets and maybe
a herd. Some of them make it, some
of them ...

So, I'd be inclined to say poor folks got dumped on the moons; and rich people got the nice planets. Things ain't that simple, unfortunately. Take Osiris, for instance, homeworld of Simon and River. It's a very wealthy Core world. But Ariel, supposedly a moon of Osiris, is also very prosperous. So, I think it's likely Dobson is telling the truth, and really only the border moons are in bad shape.

Also, because Osiris is the Capital of the Alliance, and very prestigious, it stands to reason that some very "important" people also live there; and that the new solar system certainly isn't meant for the outcast alone.

Who was left on Earth-That-Was when they went? Hard to say. But usually it's the wealthy, rich folks that inhabit the newly formed planets first. I say "inhabit"; doesn't mean they went first. Remember Bowden's Malady?

ZOE
Affliction of the bone and muscle.
Degenerative.

BOURNE
Very. Every planet that's been
terraformed for human life has its
own little quirks. Turns out the
air down underground, mixed up
with the ore processors, it's a
perfect recipe for Bowden's.

Like the film Aliens, it's likely they first sent generations of terraformers; takes decades. Probably people volunteering (or with otherwise no real prospects on Earth).

All of this is highly speculative, of course. And your guess is as good as mine.

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

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