Jayne Costume, pics and instructions. by FearTheMullet

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Jayne Costume, pics and instructions.

POSTED BY: FEARTHEMULLET
UPDATED: Monday, March 24, 2008 07:44
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Sunday, February 10, 2008 7:03 PM

Just joined this website and thought I would share some things that might be helpful to other members here on their path to recreating a jayne costume from scratch.

I am planning on having this costume complete in october so it may take awhile. I will give as much detail on what I do as I do it to make it easy to follow. I started out with some of the belt pieces because they looked the easiest to do. First up is the front right side pouch.

This is a partial list of tools and websites where you can get them.
First you will need some sort of string. For the smaller things you see, use Colored Sinew. It can be found below for ordering. Also you will need a stich spacer. I found the cheapest at Tandy Leather.
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Colored Sinew String http://www.leatherunltd.com/hardware/laces/laces.html

Stich Spacer http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/products.asp?number=8091-00

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Needed = All leather, thin from either old used cloths from a thrift store or from a leather store.
1: (A) 5"(wide)x12.5"(long)
1: (B) 5"x8.5
1: (C) 4"x4"

Instructions = First up, cut C into strips appx. 3/8" thick. Make them 3.5" long leaving .5" on top to be sewed. Put A onto B with C on the inside. Make sure that A and B are facing each other with the inside having the desired outside finish. Sew three sides together to make a pouch with the stitching on the outside. Turn the pouch inside out and their should be an excess 4” sticking out from the top and the fraying sticking out the bottom. Next sew misc. jewel bits on the front. I went with some Chinese lettering and western symbols found at a local Ben Franklins. I put a simple fastener on in the middle and sewed a circular bit to the front to hide the fastener. Next just sew two strips of leather to the back to hold it to a belt.

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Needed = Single piece of leather, thick (cow, preferably from the underbelly region 2/16” thick)
1: (A) 4”x10”x15”
1: (B) 4”x3”
8: Washers
4: ¾” bolts with smooth backs
4: hex nuts

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Instructions = Start by creasing the leather. I wasn’t sure on the best way of doing this so I used a wood vise. Soak creasing areas with water before you start creasing, once dried, take material out of vise. This keeps the leather in the desired shape. Crease at points seen in the picture. Make sure that the leather is even before tightening the vise. Crease leaving a 1” area in the middle of two creases. Next you can do this a few different ways. The way I did it was use nuts and bolts to hold the pouch together along with the belt loop. I used approx. ¾”long bolts and hex heads but really anything would work. Drill 4 congruent holes through the back of the pouch and through the two sides. Use the 4 holes as a template for the belt loop. Drill 4 holes into the belt loop (B) and put the 4 bolts into the holes. Now put two washers used as spaces on each of the bolts and attach the belt loop B to A through the holes. View image #1 #2 below to see details. Put it all together and attach the nuts to the heads through the leather on the inside of the pouch. See pic #3 (still have to dye) and #4. I put two western snaps on the front. I still need to pick up the pewter bits for it. The photo #5 looks like it holds a sharpening stone.

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Im currently starting the bandolier and almost finished the 3 mag pouch holder. I will get them up as soon as possible. Look for an update within a week. Also if anyone’s interested, I can get the Jayne hats which were seen in Jaynestown and The Train Job.

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*edit* I made the pictures smaller for easier browsing. Is their an in-post limit for the size of pictures?

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Sunday, February 10, 2008 9:58 PM

THOLO

love it, I think this is great. Good Work.

I would like to make a Mal's pistol holster. Do you know how to make one? Can you post those steps/pics?

Keep Flying!!

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Monday, February 11, 2008 3:03 AM

KEELHAULER

"Heard tell they used to keelhaul traitors back in the day" ~ Malcolm Reynolds

Great work! Thanks for sharing! I could be interested in a Jayne hat. How much are they? Who's the manufacturer? Do they come with different liner colors? I think Jayne's was darker.

KH

"Heard tell they used to keelhaul traitors back in the day" - Mal Reynolds

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Monday, February 11, 2008 4:22 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Welcome to the site FearTheMullet! Glad to have you here posting with us, and what a first post it is too. Excellent looking pouch. Thanks for the pictoral walk through. This will be very valuable info to any putting together a Jayne costume.

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Monday, February 11, 2008 10:01 AM

FEARTHEMULLET

Jayne hats would be available for around $20 shipping included. The hats cost $10 plus tax, I get them from a thrift shop in town. I dont know the manufacturer. I figure since im not buying in bulk the shipping per item will be around $5. I will let you know if your still interested.

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Monday, February 11, 2008 10:11 AM

KEELHAULER

"Heard tell they used to keelhaul traitors back in the day" ~ Malcolm Reynolds

Quote:
Originally posted by FearTheMullet:
Jayne hats would be available for around $20 shipping included. The hats cost $10 plus tax, I get them from a thrift shop in town. I dont know the manufacturer. I figure since im not buying in bulk the shipping per item will be around $5. I will let you know if your still interested.

$20 shipped is pretty good! Do you know if they all have the bright green liner? The lining in Jayne's hat was dark, probably olive drab or something. I guess the lining could be died.

"Heard tell they use to keelhaul traitors back in the day" - Mal Reynolds

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Monday, February 11, 2008 12:48 PM

FEARTHEMULLET

Ok here is the Mag pouch.

Needed =
1: 8.5”x 7” thick
3: 17”x 4” x 5”
>60” waxed thread

Instructions: The back piece still needs to be dyed black, but the front three pouches are complete. Start with making a template for the next two pouches with the first. Dimensions are above see pic #1 below as to the layout. Its similar to the stone pouch in the first post. I found it helpful to draw lines where the two pieces get sewn together. Start at the bottom as seen in the 2nd pic. Go a few stitches up and then start from the other side as in pic #3. I had a feeling that stitching through the pouch through to the thick back piece would be troublesome, so I put a snap on the back of the pouch with the intention to putting a few stitches in the back to help with the snap. Set them up three of the pouches across and sew them to the thick piece of the back. I still have to do this and will put pics up as soon as possible. Use two separate belt loops to hold it to the belt.

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Monday, February 11, 2008 2:12 PM

FEARTHEMULLET

Quote:
Originally posted by keelhauler:

$20 shipped is pretty good! Do you know if they all have the bright green liner? The lining in Jayne's hat was dark, probably olive drab or something. I guess the lining could be died.

"Heard tell they use to keelhaul traitors back in the day" - Mal Reynolds

All they have is the green liner, I took a second look after buying the hat to see how off the color is, it seems that Jaynes hat liner is the same color, but the dark lighting makes it appear to be much darker than it actually is. The color can be seen clearly on The Train Job just before he jumps onto the train from Serenity.

The liner seems quite able to be dyed but the problem stems from how thin it is. I cant see how one could dye it without it soaking through to the top.

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Monday, February 11, 2008 2:27 PM

FEARTHEMULLET

Quote:
Originally posted by Tholo:

I would like to make a Mal's pistol holster. Do you know how to make one? Can you post those steps/pics?

If you can get me a nice picture to work from, I'll see what I can do.

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Monday, February 11, 2008 2:46 PM

THOLO

Quote:
Originally posted by FearTheMullet:
Quote:
Originally posted by Tholo:

I would like to make a Mal's pistol holster. Do you know how to make one? Can you post those steps/pics?

If you can get me a nice picture to work from, I'll see what I can do.

Here ya go.

http://www.ashtonomicon.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=57

Keep Flying!!

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Monday, February 11, 2008 2:59 PM

KEELHAULER

"Heard tell they used to keelhaul traitors back in the day" ~ Malcolm Reynolds

I looked at the scene again and I still think it's a bit darker. Not arguing, mind you. ;) It is darn hard to tell for sure. Maybe the prop guys did some sort of weathering on the inside like they did on the outside. I have some pics of a hat that was reportedly one of three used on the set of Train Job. It's not Jayne's hero hat though.

Still, for $20, what you're offering is super close (if not spot on) with the screen used hat. Probably as close as us out here on the rim are likely to get!!

KH

"Heard tell they use to keelhaul traitors back in the day" - Mal Reynolds

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Monday, February 11, 2008 3:18 PM

FEARTHEMULLET

Quote:
Originally posted by keelhauler:
I looked at the scene again and I still think it's a bit darker.

I think your right seeing that photo. Im not sure the easiest way to do it while keeping it clean. The weathering seems pretty simple. Just a little oil and some salt water.

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Originally posted by Tholo:
Here ya go.

http://www.ashtonomicon.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=57

Is their a back view as well? Also, is the length of the gun known? It would greatly help considering I dont actually have the gun.

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Tuesday, February 12, 2008 5:36 PM

FEARTHEMULLET

I just recieved my Patrick Henry Rough Rider bowie knife today. Im sorry to say that the handle arrived broken and am awaiting further reply from BladeMatrix.
Purchased from http://www.bladematrix.tv/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=45088

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Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:55 AM

MICJWELCH

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Originally posted by FearTheMullet:
Also, is the length of the gun known? It would greatly help considering I dont actually have the gun.

"We may experience some slight turbulence, and then... explode."

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Wednesday, February 13, 2008 6:19 PM

FEARTHEMULLET

Quote:
Originally posted by Tholo:

I would like to make a Mal's pistol holster. Do you know how to make one? Can you post those steps/pics?

I gave it a try

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=32635&m=584583#584583

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Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:56 PM

FEARTHEMULLET

Ok here is a little more hat details.
Its made in Srilanka.

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Friday, February 15, 2008 2:38 AM

KEELHAULER

"Heard tell they used to keelhaul traitors back in the day" ~ Malcolm Reynolds

fearthemullet, thanks for the hat info! I wonder why they removed the other label? Huh!? Oh, well. Hey, what sizes can you get? Only XL? No matter, really, I definitely want this hat! I may be interested in getting two, if possible! I will probably try and darken the liner and if I mess up, I'd like to have a second shot! Or, if it works on the first go, I'll probably give the other hat to my friend who is also a die hard browncoat!! Anyway, send me a message with details for purchase, at your convenience. thanks!

"Heard tell they use to keelhaul traitors back in the day" - Mal Reynolds

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Friday, February 22, 2008 5:24 PM

KEELHAULER

"Heard tell they used to keelhaul traitors back in the day" ~ Malcolm Reynolds

Hey mullet,

haven't heard back from you yet. are you getting my messages?

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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:44 PM

FEARTHEMULLET

No I havent. I have waited but recieved nothing in either of my fireflyfans page, or my email. You can send messages direct to
ruberducky6@hotmail.com

I have concluded that my magazines pouches are way off. It looks like they are all a single piece of leather sewed into place. I will update the work in progress soon.

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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:45 PM

FEARTHEMULLET

Knife sheath.

Needed:
A.2 pieces of 8-10oz leather shape of knife but approx 3/8" in larger than the knife
B. 1 piece of 8-10oz leather snaped the same size but with the knife size removed.
Plenty of waxed thread
C. 1 piece 8-10oz leather 2.5"by 4" (belt loop)

Instructions =
Step 1. First start with the knife and trace the dimentions on the back piece of leather. Use this like and extend it out by .5", this will be the size of the front and back. Cut 3 pieces out at the same size. The third trace and cut out the exact size of the knife from the oversized leather. This will be used as a mock knife when assembling the three pieces and stiching them together. I used this to test a few patterns for the final embossing. (see pic #1) After you have the hole thing assembled and stiched, you can begin the cosmetic stuff. Start by razoring the edges even from top layer to bottom on a side. Next wet the leather on the edge lightly. Run a smooth rounded metal object along the side pushing against the leather to get a nice and smooth surface. After all edges have been smooth prepare the top leather for embossing. I am yet waiting for a star stamp and will continue with instructions and dyeing afterwards.

Step 2. Trace around the leather with a 1/8" stick spacer. Put a few small nails into it to hold the general shape. (see pic #2)

Step 3. Belt loop. Use the C piece of leather and sew it to the back of the sheath. Do this before sewing the sides together. A few things to make sure of: the inside sheath is facing the correct direction, (see pics). It looks like the knife is on a tilt with the hilt forward of the blade. This can be accounted for by angling the belt loop slightly.

Step 4. Stiching. I found it easiest to use a small nail and pre-hole the leather after the spacer to make it easier for my needles (after I broke 3). Place the three pieces together sandwich style with the leather faces facing the correct direction. The stiching I used was pretty common and simple (see pic's). If anyone needs detailed instructions on how this is done, just leave a reply.

Step 5. Stamping. Look for a star and a flower stamp on any source for leather goods. Also some sort of embossing would work on the edges. Im going for the "looks good to me" approach and not going for authenticity. Stamp the flower in the corners and bottom and emboss along the connections.

Step 6. Dyeing and coloring. There is a bit to much red in the dye I used so I will be going over it lightly with a light brown to try and bring out the natural colors before I do the weathering and sealing. Dye it lightly a good one over and then go into detailing. You can see the difference between a regular dye and detail in a few pictures. To give it a singular type of feel just rub a few areas longer with a q-tip. The red in the pictures is much stronger than in natural light. The camera accentuated it a little to much.

This is still a work in progress and plan on updating it within a few days time. The sheather still needs edge finishing, dyeing, and weathering.

Step #1

Step #2

Step #3

Step #4

Misc Pics.

Sewing Done.

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Friday, February 29, 2008 9:48 PM

FEARTHEMULLET

Im having a go at another version of the mag pouches. The first ones were to flimsy and didnt seem accurate. This is made out of two pieces of leather and a few belt buckles on the oppisite side. Its not as of yet complete but I would hate for someone to start on the mag pouches without seeing this update.

Pics only as of now, but you get the gist. When I find time I will include instructions.

Something to keep me going

I included a little chinese symbol for a little style. Of course nobody but me will know about it.

Dyeing.

Complete Stich layout for back.

Backpiece of leather to snap down in the front.

First mag pouch

First and second

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Saturday, March 1, 2008 5:45 AM

KEELHAULER

"Heard tell they used to keelhaul traitors back in the day" ~ Malcolm Reynolds

Hey mullet,

I sent you an email the other day but haven't heard back. I'm still interested in getting a Jayne hat. contact me at lscrow@hotmail.com

thanks

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Monday, March 3, 2008 1:43 PM

FEARTHEMULLET

Well I finished two things today. First I finished off a long awaited stone pouch (see first post) with bits of foo-farah. Secondly, I finished off the mag pouch to hold the straight MP5 mags for the mp5k which will be going on the front of the bandolier. When I feel like it, I will included instructions on the mag pouch, the most time consuming piece I have done yet.

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Monday, March 10, 2008 4:40 PM

FEARTHEMULLET

Jaynes Belt

With the larger pieces I went with a much more specific type of leather. For the belt I wanted something that sort of shined while having a quality front and back which had some real heft to it.

Needed:
-60" x 2" 1/4 (I choose 3/8" cause im a big guy) I choose 15/16 oz harness belly leather. Harness leather has been infused with wax giving the surface a nice shine after a short rubbing. (I have a 36" belt size so you can just add or subtract to the total length based on your own belt size.)

-Waxed thread I started with white but I didnt have the right kind so I switched to black. (Movie version = white (Make sure its at least 35lbs breaking strength)

-Stiching awel

- 2.5" roller buckle

Instructions:
Start by cutting the leather to size mentioned see pics for exact measurements (#1). Secondly stich the length of the leather on either size about 1/4" away from the edge (#2). This will take awhile even with the awel. The stich chisel is a 1/8" spacing on a 45 degree angle. I choose the angle because it would show the stiching better. The picture from the prop store shows the leather going under the belt side into a belt loop. See #3 for this. Its about 13.5" from the left end. The left end appears to fold back to hold the roller buckle.

Soon I will be putting the buckle in and stich another belt loop on. Look for the update in a week or two.

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Monday, March 24, 2008 7:44 AM

FEARTHEMULLET

Well I finshed off the belt and all the side accessories. Next I will be starting on the really fun stuff. MP5K and the bandolier will be the next several weeks when I have time, followed by the nylon holster and the le mat pistol. The belt keepers were very simple to make, two snaps and two bends. After completion of the belt I decided to put a few things on it. The only accessory not handmade is the 1956 Magazine pouch I got off ebay. Jayne wears it in a few of the series episodes and it looks better than the civil was percussion cap pouch. The bandolier loop can be seen next to it where the bandoiler will attach to the back. I also need another Patrick Henry bowie knife but that can wait for now.
Well, here ya go.

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