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SERENITY at 36,000 feet... Kept me sane.

POSTED BY: THESOMNAMBULIST
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Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:57 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Curious title I know but let me explain.

Recently I returned from a holiday to Melbourne Australia where my girlfriends family come from. As I'm sure many of you know a trip to Australia from just about anywhere on the planet is a long old journey. Well from the UK you are looking around the 24hours mark. Not 24hours straight, but with a mid-way stop at Hong Kong and general waiting around in terminals you accumulate the hours.

Such an endeavour requires a certian amount of distraction. Now much of that distration, for me, comes from being able to stare outside the window and wonder at the cloud formations, or at the 'cartographic' imagery that the world seems to take on at such great heights and I marvel at the fact that there are no borders between continents!

However with such a long journey nightfall comes quickly and readily. (Twice I think) due to a spinning planet and adverse navigation - I'm not sure. Anyway these eager dark moments for an insomniac are an annoyance, so distrations must come from elsewhere, or insanity sets in or scurvy can't remember!! Well on my particular Qantas flight the 'In flight' entertainment system had failed!!! Yes 24hours of no entertainment whatsoever. I was fearful! Fearful that by the time I reach the UK I would be found having eaten the inards of my seat, or that the oxygen mask may have become an item of play and that at heathrow, upon touchdown I would have become a silly gibbering idiot laughing out of context at the back of the plane having made a paper hat out of the in-flight menu. All credible scenarios I'm sure!

However! In my wisdom I had purchased a PSP for just such an eventuality. Better still was the very great fortune that a friend had given me, not more than a week earlier, his copy of the SERENITY UMD (Universal Media Device) What luck! This is probably one of the few films that I can watch again and again and again!!! And trust me I had to! In all I think I watched it four times and I never tired of it. In fact much of the turbulence we went through added much authenticity to the reaver chase. It was fantastic!!

I was very grateful of SERENITY at 36,000 feet and yet again very apprecitative of Joss and his wonderful imagination.



Anyone else see SERENITY at such a great height?

Just thought I'd share that.
Cheers
Ric



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Sunday, June 29, 2008 9:03 AM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
...Now much of that distration, for me, comes from being able to stare outside the window and wonder at the cloud formations, or at the 'cartographic' imagery that the world seems to take on at such great heights and I marvel at the fact that there are no borders between continents!

However with such a long journey nightfall comes quickly and readily. (Twice I think) due to a spinning planet and adverse navigation - I'm not sure.

I was very grateful of SERENITY at 36,000 feet and yet again very apprecitative of Joss and his wonderful imagination.

Anyone else see SERENITY at such a great height?

Just thought I'd share that.
Cheers
Ric




Thanks for sharing your latest Serenity experience , Ric !

I think you mean that the countries have no borders...The Continents surely do...They're generally called shorelines...

You were probably on a 'great circle' route , which is an oddity to terrestrial folk , generally...There was probably a somewhat 'polar' leg to the journey , which could account for your notions about the evening seeming to come a couple of times...The sun is far south against the face of the globe at this time of year , so a flight leg with a polar component would account for the sun being below the horizon more than one would generally expect...

The astronauts aboard the Int'l Space Station probably get to enjoy Serenity at a height of more than 200 miles...Which is , no doubt , a heavenly experience...

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Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:06 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


out2theblack wrote:

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I think you mean that the countries have no borders...The Continents surely do...They're generally called shorelines...


Ha. Yes indeed Except Turkey of course... or North, Central and South America... But yes I get you're point

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You were probably on a 'great circle' route , which is an oddity to terrestrial folk , generally...There was probably a somewhat 'polar' leg to the journey , which could account for your notions about the evening seeming to come a couple of times...The sun is far south against the face of the globe at this time of year , so a flight leg with a polar component would account for the sun being below the horizon more than one would generally expect...


Fascinating. Out of curiosity how do you know this, about the 'polar' leg of a flight? Is that a common route for commercial flights? I'm always interested in all that lark when it comes to flying, I wish they'd be a little more informative during these things because it is incredible.

Cheers for the feedback.



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Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:03 PM

PHYRELIGHT


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
In fact much of the turbulence we went through added much authenticity to the reaver chase. It was fantastic!!

Oooooooooooohhhhh!!! My mind is stiring in an electric cloud of enthusiasm at the thought! Sounds like fun!

(And, yes. I've been through really rough turbulance on a plane before.)



Darksiders can keep their cookies. We have better writers.

Grrr. Argghh.

Really can't wait to see Cap'n Tightpants sing!
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Sunday, June 29, 2008 9:38 PM

SCHO


Scho adds it to the list of things to get before his next flight.


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Monday, June 30, 2008 10:08 AM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
out2theblack wrote:

Quote:

I think you mean that the countries have no borders...The Continents surely do...They're generally called shorelines...


Ha. Yes indeed Except Turkey of course... or North, Central and South America... But yes I get you're point

Quote:

You were probably on a 'great circle' route , which is an oddity to terrestrial folk , generally...There was probably a somewhat 'polar' leg to the journey , which could account for your notions about the evening seeming to come a couple of times...The sun is far south against the face of the globe at this time of year , so a flight leg with a polar component would account for the sun being below the horizon more than one would generally expect...


Fascinating. Out of curiosity how do you know this, about the 'polar' leg of a flight? Is that a common route for commercial flights?




Flyer for more than 25 years now...They expect us to learn and retain a lot of this stuff , and who can blame 'em ?

Yes , the great circle routes are very common , and used every day in long-haul flying , especially if a crossing between hemispheres is part of the flight path .

Turkey's a continent ?

Oh , I think you mean it connects Europe and Asia...OK , that's correct...

Interesting side note , among glider pilots , which I also happen to be , what airplane pilots call 'turbulence' , we frequently employ as 'lift', so that we may Soar...Like a 'leaf on the wind'...

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Monday, June 30, 2008 10:57 AM

MSB


Ok I love the turbulence enhanced reaver scene

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Monday, June 30, 2008 12:37 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Originally posted by out2theblack:

Quote:

Flyer for more than 25 years now...They expect us to learn and retain a lot of this stuff , and who can blame 'em ?

Yes , the great circle routes are very common , and used every day in long-haul flying , especially if a crossing between hemispheres is part of the flight path .

Turkey's a continent ?

Oh , I think you mean it connects Europe and Asia...OK , that's correct...

Interesting side note , among glider pilots , which I also happen to be , what airplane pilots call 'turbulence' , we frequently employ as 'lift', so that we may Soar...Like a 'leaf on the wind'...



Wonderful!! Glad to read you didn't acquire all this knowledge playing a microsoft flight sim!

Gliding too eh! There is a gliding club very near me here in Kent, and last year I did some work with a web designer who was waxing lyrical about it. I came very close to having a go, then work became very busy and I've not found the impetus to look at it again.

One more question if I may please.... Does a video camera interfere with instrumentation on a plane? Because I really wanted to take some footage of a landing on this trip, but everytime on approach about twenty minutes from landing the message would come over: could we switch all electronic equipment off! It's so frustrating! I love landings!!! Just once I'd like to capture it all on film....

Cheers






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Monday, June 30, 2008 12:42 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


PhyreLight and MSB.

Yup! The turbulance added a great sense of interaction. It was cool. Luckily though it wasn't that kind of turbulence where your dinner ends up on your head! Just the gentle kind that lets you know you are flying, and that it's not just a blue screen out the window with landscapes projected over it :D

Cheers


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Monday, June 30, 2008 12:45 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Originally posted by Scho:
Quote:

Scho adds it to the list of things to get before his next flight.


Indeed do. I use it for listening to music too. It is a lot less fussy than the iPod interface.


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Tuesday, July 1, 2008 11:26 AM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:


Wonderful!! Glad to read you didn't acquire all this knowledge playing a microsoft flight sim!

Gliding too eh! There is a gliding club very near me here in Kent, and last year I did some work with a web designer who was waxing lyrical about it. I came very close to having a go, then work became very busy and I've not found the impetus to look at it again.

One more question if I may please.... Does a video camera interfere with instrumentation on a plane? Because I really wanted to take some footage of a landing on this trip, but everytime on approach about twenty minutes from landing the message would come over: could we switch all electronic equipment off! It's so frustrating! I love landings!!! Just once I'd like to capture it all on film....





All the consumer electronic devices are 'unknown unknowns' , which means that they've not been certified for use in-flight...Some have been shown to create types of interference with some radios and navigation equipment...And , with the advent of the 'glass cockpits' , the potential for interference issues is increased...

On a critical phase like landing , it's just good practice to eliminate as many unknown unknowns as possible...

Do have a go at the gliding...You'll be pleased that you did !

Speaking of sims , there are some good soaring sims available nowadays !

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Tuesday, July 1, 2008 11:32 AM

MSB


Well Mythbusters ran several trials of a variety of electrical devices and they were unable to replicate interference of any kind...but apparently it's a possibility so why take chances??

I really may have to try that on my trip to D*C. Think I can get the pilot to intentionally fly into turbulence to enhance my viewing experience??

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Wednesday, July 2, 2008 9:02 AM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by MSB:
Well Mythbusters ran several trials of a variety of electrical devices and they were unable to replicate interference of any kind...but apparently it's a possibility so why take chances??




The 'Mythbusters' guys , while entertaining , claim to be 'professionals' , but they're not scientists...

They could stand to take a few high school refresher courses in the sciences...I've noticed that they're frequently empty-handed when it comes to their 'homework' , to the point that they occasionally make some boneheaded claims and statements...Besides doing some things that are dangerous to the point of idiocy...One day , one of them is gonna fall down and die , and I'm not cleaning it up !

The name of that show really should be ,
" Hey , y'all , Watch THIS ! "

One of my friends IS a scientist , and one of the principal causes of com interference ( and there are many ) is the consumer-grade electronics (vid-cams) that are flown with their scientific experiment packages...

I remember a directive issued by FAA concerning these sorts of issues in flight , and a lot of med-evac choppers had experienced issues in proximity to radios and other equipment on the ground at event scenes and hospitals...

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Wednesday, July 2, 2008 11:34 AM

MSB


good to know

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Wednesday, July 2, 2008 10:51 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


out2theblack wrote:
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One of my friends IS a scientist , and one of the principal causes of com interference ( and there are many ) is the consumer-grade electronics (vid-cams) that are flown with their scientific experiment packages...

I remember a directive issued by FAA concerning these sorts of issues in flight , and a lot of med-evac choppers had experienced issues in proximity to radios and other equipment on the ground at event scenes and hospitals...



See that was what was confussing me about this. Have you seen a modern airport these days. How many gazzillion people pass through those things. What is the first thing anyone ever does... Switch on their mobile. How many invisible 'signal's must be beaming from an airport terminal! By rights there shouldn't be a plane anywhere near those things. As we all know... "You can't stop the signal."
Armed with this knowledge I fully appreciate the concern.

Cheers Out2theblack You have been a great help with all this.

MSB d'you know by chance I saw that very episode yesterday. I thought it was a little inconclucive, as is most of their experiments. Re-stating what 'Out2theblack' said, those guys are frequently off with their approach... I think they just like to blow things up! Which is kinda fun :D

Cheers



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Thursday, July 3, 2008 2:40 AM

ORAM


I live in Australia, but every now and then I have to travel down to Sydney (I live in the country area, a town calle Orange) which is boring in a sense.

So, one day, when doctors decided I needed to have a kidney biopsy that afternoon, I took my laptop, and Firefly and Serenity DVDs.

At one point, mum (who was diving like Wash on a bad day) told me to turn it off as it was distracting her... she could hear it, but couldn't see what Mal was doing... didn't help I told her he was topless in the scene I was watching also.


Many times it's cured boring times in hospital, it even entralled a bunch of young kids at one point (We had 6 in the ward, they had no beds, so shoved me with them and they were terrified by the Reavers... so cute) and kept nurses and doctors wondering why their patiens are suddenly saying 'Shiny' to every bit of good news.


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Thursday, July 3, 2008 4:01 AM

FUTCHFACTOR


damn, what a good idea. i just flew to Oz and back out of Florida. i should have taken FF with me...much better than the 5" LCD seat in front of me with audio you can barely hear above the engines.

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