Firefly books and comics by Eagyn

Actually, I'd say Better Days is after the series, but before Those Left Behind.

Better Days, the crew has the new hovermule they got after they blew the old one up on Niska's complex, and the cargo-bay has had it's redesign for the movie, and I suspect the engine has been upgraded as well. So all of that was after the series ended, but before Inara leaves.

The upgrades were supposedly paid for with the Lassiter money, when they finally sold it.

It doesn't really matter with Better Days, though, it's more just a fun lark/heist thing.

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Monday, June 21, 2010 7:44 AM

Anyone get Still Flyin'?
Been waiting to hear if it was good or not...

The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, June 21, 2010 12:54 PM

Uh, yeah, there's been a few discussion threads, mostly about the new stories.

They both reveal stuff, and don't. But in a foreshadowy way.

The interviews are fun too, although people who watch for that kinda thing on the web won't see anything new. But if that doesn't interest you, there's a lot of explanation about the production and stuff, and conversations about a few practical jokes.

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Monday, June 21, 2010 2:11 PM

I could be mistaken, but I believe the continuity goes like this:

1-Firefly: The Complete Series
1a-Better Days (seems to occur within the series)
2-Those Left Behind
3-The Other Half
4-Serenity: The Movie
5-Float Oat

Despite Bytemite's well-reasoned thoughts on visuals, I think that character has to trump comsetics, and the Mal/Inara dynamic in BETTER DAYS is clearly pre-HEART OF GOLD. I think things like which mule they have, what the cargo bay looks like, etc, are explained by the fact that this is a "SERENITY" comic, and uses the movie (not the series) as visual reference.

Or, it could just be sloppy editing, like Jayne refering to River as a psychic killer an episode before he realizes she is...

THOSE LEFT BEHIND basically serves as the Season One finale, and the bridge to the movie, but THE OTHER HALF seems, character-wise, to take place after (both in who's in the crew, and the Mal/River dynamic).

FLOAT OUT stands as the ONLY piece of post-SERENITY continuity we have to date.

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

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Monday, June 21, 2010 2:16 PM

Mal strikes me as very belligerent and confrontational towards Inara in Better Days, which I always took to be as a result of her leaving. (And his suspicions about a Simon/Inara affair)

But I guess your mileage could vary.

The Message used to be after Objects in Space, so it didn't use to be an edit mistake.

The Other Half is definitely after Those Left Behind.

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Monday, June 21, 2010 4:40 PM

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Originally posted by GWEK:

3-The Other Half

I missed this!! Now I just read it- excellent.

Sorry peeps, so hard at work on my models & stuff...

The laughing Chrisisall

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Monday, June 21, 2010 4:57 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Mal strikes me as very belligerent and confrontational towards Inara in Better Days, which I always took to be as a result of her leaving. (And his suspicions about a Simon/Inara affair)

I don't wholly agree--or disagree--about Mal's demeanor toward Inara... but Inara's toward Mal... THAT'S what's key. Once Mal sleeps with Nandi, she shuts herself off from him emotionally. The conversation at the end of BETTER DAYS simply can't take place before HEART OF GOLD.

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The Message used to be after Objects in Space, so it didn't use to be an edit mistake.

It's debatable that THE MESSAGE was ever supposed to be after OBJECTS IN SPACE. The episodes were actually written roughly concurrently, and the writers have admitted that when they were working on the episodes, they weren't sure what order they would air in because they didn't know how many episodes FOX would let them have (and have as much as admitted that Jayne's line was basically an editorial oversight).

It's my understanding that Whedon's plan (assuming the series wasn't getting a full season) was ALWAYS to have OBJECTS IN SPACE be the last episode. When he had the option the film more episodes, he figured he would cram as many in as he could... as long as he ended with OIS.

The "fallback plan," if the series got picked up by another network (or if FOX reversed its decision) was that the other episodes MIGHT occur after OIS... or they might not. (After all, FOX had already altered his continuity at least 2 or 3 times by that point... what's another bump in the road?).

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The Other Half is definitely after Those Left Behind.

I was pretty sure, but it's been a while since I read it so I wasn't COMPLETELY positive that Inara was absent. Figured I'd hedge my bets. :)

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

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Monday, June 21, 2010 5:06 PM

I thought you were saying it was during the series? Heart of Gold is towards the end.

Mal and Inara are always either pulling apart or moth to flame. Always either or. It's difficult to tell anything based on behaviour towards each other, because it's not even consistent through Those Left Behind into the movie.

Well, like I was saying, it doesn't particularly matter. It's a lark.

Also: Ah @ OIS. That makes sense.

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Monday, June 21, 2010 5:24 PM

D'oh! I typo'd! I meant it couldn't be AFTER Heart of Gold! :)

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

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Monday, June 21, 2010 5:42 PM

Better.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:41 AM

WARFIRE

Slightly off topic, I just got an email from Legion of Comics in the UK saying that Those Left Behind is coming up for preorder - anyone know if it's being rereleased?

http://www.legionofcomics.co.uk/acatalog/PRE-ORDER_SERENITY_COMIC.html
#aDKHSER_a31

I have the TPB so I'm not worried but it seems a little odd and might be good for new readers!

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Warfire

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Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:51 AM

Hmm, THAT'S interesting. I wouldn't know, I'm not in the UK. But I'm wondering if there's anything similar going on in the US.

Maybe a lot of people bought Float Out?

Or maybe they're gearing up for something, and this is promotional...

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Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:59 AM

WARFIRE

Doing it for a £1 ($1.48) is really cheap too - I normally pay £2.45 ($3.64) per copy of a normal comic.

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Warfire

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Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:51 AM

Oh wait, I think I might know. They might have gotten mixed up. It's possible the Shepherd's Tale comics are up for pre-order.

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Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:52 AM

WARFIRE

Well for a £1 I'll preorder!

Economic Comics (another UK site) has it too - behind paywall so can't link. I've preordered there as I get a discount on shipping.

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Warfire

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Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:54 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

My wife just got me "Float Out", which is the first of the Firefly/Serenity comix I've gotten my hands on. She just got in late last night, so I haven't had a chance to look at it very close, but it was still way shiny of her to get it for me!

"I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal."

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

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Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:07 AM

Fun! Hope nothing's been spoiled for you yet. Float Out's kind of a pick up for everyone who was sad about Wash.

If after you read it you're interested in the others, both of the other two are a pretty good read. Those Left Behind, you kind of get the sense the artists were still getting a feel for the character design, but the writing is pitch perfect.

I'd say Better Days is my favourite, though. Character designs and art are more consistent, it carries on having the pitch perfect dialogue and writing, it has some excellent what ifs and character development/moments. And what's more Firefly than "there's an exciting action-packed heist, lots of big laughs, then some consequences?"

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Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:18 AM

KWICKO

Thanks, Byte; no, no spoilers yet. I haven't really had that much luck finding the Firefly/Serenity comix locally; the local comic store with the best rep seems to not be that much into our 'verse. That, or they just sell out really quickly. But the wife found a really cool place in Seattle that had some great stuff, and they were REALLY into Firefly, so were happy and proud to show her all their goodies.

Oh, and she picked me up another of the Buffy Season 8 comix as well.

I'm not way into the comix and graphic novels, but I like picking up Buffy, Angel, and Firefly stuff when I get a chance, just because I loved all three of those universes, and like to spend time there when I can.

She also picked me up what purports to be a "shooting script" of "The Train Job" episode, but is probably just a bound bunch of Xeroxed pages that looks like a script. But it's still pretty cool, anyway, and I like it. And it's timely, too, since I just watched that episode on the Blu-Ray collection I picked up off Amazon.

Just a few little things to add to my FF/SerenityWhedon collection. I'm not obsessed. Really! I'm NOT! I can stop anytime! (But who would want to?)

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Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:12 PM

Gorram it! I can't print up "The Other Half!!"
How do I get a hard copy?

The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:41 AM

Kwicko,

These days, you don't need to hit a comic store for most of your Joss comics, especially if you're willing to wait.

Both of the SERENITY miniseries have been collected into trade paperbacks that are available at sources like Amazon (I'm sure they were also available at major book chains, but don't know how well they've kept them stocked). You can get THOSE LEFT BEHIND and BETTER DAYS for less than 25 bucks (just make sure you're getting the TPBs, and not individual issues, some of which are quite expensive these days).

BUFFY: SEASON EIGHT and ANGEL: AFTER THE FALL have also been collected into trade paperbacks (generally of about 4-6 issues each, I think), so if you're interested in those ongoing stories, you can actually just hit Amazon two or three times a year rather than the comic store once a month.

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

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Friday, June 25, 2010 1:55 PM

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Originally posted by GWEK:

Both of the SERENITY miniseries have been collected into trade paperbacks that are available at sources like Amazon (I'm sure they were also available at major book chains, but don't know how well they've kept them stocked).

My local B&N has them, but not "The Other Half!!"
That was gorram cool!

The laughing Chrisisall

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Friday, June 25, 2010 4:10 PM