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The man they call Jayne
Sunday, April 4, 2004 4:38 AM
CROWLEY
Sunday, April 4, 2004 5:18 AM
MAUGWAI
Sunday, April 4, 2004 5:56 AM
JEBBYPAL
Sunday, April 4, 2004 7:42 AM
Quote:Originally posted by jebbypal: not wanting the crew to know what he did, I think he is acutely aware of how the crew judges him, but knows its in his best interests if they don't think too badly of him.
Sunday, April 4, 2004 8:36 AM
WREN
Quote:Originally posted by Crowley: I thought that Jayne has a change of heart when Simon explains to him what was done to River. Why else would he suddenly want to get them out of there? I think he could've easily let Simon keep himself busy until the authorities came.
Sunday, April 4, 2004 10:04 AM
SHINY
Quote:Originally posted by maugwai: He seems to completely trust Mal and respect him. He obeys Mal, albeit reluctantly, when nobody else can control Jayne.
Sunday, April 4, 2004 12:40 PM
LEAFY
Sunday, April 4, 2004 4:44 PM
LJOSALF
Quote:Originally posted by Crowley: ...Furthermore, Jayne seems to be always on the lookout for big bucks, but in The Message we learn that he sends some home for his family.
Sunday, April 4, 2004 5:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by ljosalf: All we really, absolutely know for sure is that Jayne got a package in the mail that had a very funny hat in it and that Jayne identified the package as coming from his mother. (Book, by the way, suggests that the package might actually be dangerous. I have my suspicions as to why.) Way back, at the very beginning of Serenity, Joss uses a dramatic storytelling trick--juxtaposition--to tag Jayne as a "motherless son of a bitch." (I know, I know, the phrase literally refers to the situation the crew of Serenity suddenly find themselves in when the Alliance cruiser shows up, but it nevertheless very subtly tags Jayne as well.) So what if this is more or less true--the motherless part--and Jayne sent the package to himself as way to relieve some of the tension that had been developing between himself and the rest of the crew.? Think back to the opening sequence in Out of Gas, where we (and Wash) come in at the end of a funny story told by Book about a fellow shepherd or other religious who appeared utterly ridiculous but whom no one was willing to disillusion by even so much as a off-hand comment, one must suppose out of Christian charity, because he was so proud of whatever it was. Jayne's hat is the rough equivalent of this story and has the effect of altering the way at least some of the crew perceive him. Kaylee, Inara and Wash all cock their heads to one side in a way that is suggestive of this changed point of view. Kaylee pronounces the hat sweet, and, although Wash makes a hilariously ironic comment about the hat, he says it in such a way that it can be taken as an affirmation.
Sunday, April 4, 2004 6:17 PM
MCNALLY
Quote:Originally posted by Wren: Replace the W with the J and you get Jayne. Equally, John Waynes real name was a girls name (I think it was Marion). His parents called him that to toughen him up.
Quote:Originally posted by Maugwai: I think Mal must have done something for him at some point, maybe saved his life or something.
Sunday, April 4, 2004 7:17 PM
Quote:A) Jayne's a mama's boy, religious -
Monday, April 5, 2004 3:31 AM
MUTT999
Monday, April 5, 2004 5:02 AM
BLAZINGBUG
Monday, April 5, 2004 6:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by jebbypal: Quote:A) Jayne's a mama's boy, religious - Okay, just a little curious where you draw that conclusion from McNally. I mean, yes there's the package, but well, there's very little in Jayne's character that we've seen actually onscreen to be interpretted as a mama's boy (or at least the way I've always seen it interpreted). Pretty much the same feeling on religion -> to me it appears that he most likely views religion in the same way that he does the law. That is if no one appears to be watching it doesn't much matter what you do. Just curious as to where you are drawing your opinions from:)
Monday, April 5, 2004 7:31 AM
RIJPE
Monday, April 5, 2004 1:32 PM
Quote:does anyone remember signs of Jayne considering betrayal after this [Ariel]?
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