When Did You Know . . . by Delia

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When Did You Know . . .

POSTED BY: DELIA
UPDATED: Saturday, May 1, 2004 15:27
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Saturday, May 1, 2004 7:39 AM

. . . that Firefly was doomed?

Was there a moment during its brief but glorious run when you knew the show wasn't going to make it? I'm curious to know what the warning signs for other people were.

For me, it came at about Week 5, when I was looking for a name to use on a you-must-have-a-unique-log-in type site, with 1000's of users. After trying all my usuals with no luck (and some of these are names I made up), I typed in "Inara" in desperation. And no one had claimed it yet. And that's when I knew Firefly was in trouble.

Although, on the shiny side, I did get a very cool name for that site.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 7:48 AM

GHOULMAN

The first ep of course.

Terrible time slot.
No marketing of note.
No previews for critics.
Network interferance.
Sabotaged premier.

It's obvious there are people out at FOX (and maybe elswhere) who have a real hate on for Joss and crew. Or at least, from where I sit - someone hated Firefly enough to cancel it before it even was on the frickin' TV.

Why? Don' ask me.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 7:53 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Not sure I'm all clear on your user name reference, but I honestly didn't think Firefly was 'done' till after they kept it off the air. A friend , who is vastly more up on the Entertainment news, made some comment that it was cancelled. I scoffed, internally, thinking that she had no clue of what she spoke. She didn't even WATCH it , so what did she know?

However, when I heard that they were showing the 'pilot' of the show which had already been on the air..I did become a bit suspicious.

Fox TV pin head execs!

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 7:53 AM

NEROLI

I first started to worry about Firefly's fate when it kept getting preempted, which any show in that time slot would have. The telling part was that Fox made no effort that I ever saw to let us know when it would be shown.

At the time it was on I was working late Friday nights, as was my brother, he's a fan too. So I was taping Firefly and John Doe for us to watch later. It was frustrating beyond belief to get home from work and find you had taped two hours of

.

Even more frustrating to scan through said

and find no hint of when the program you wanted was going to be shown.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 8:04 AM

FIREFLYTHEMOVIE

I maintain that it's still not doomed. We've got the BDM coming, right? As far as its life on Fox goes, I didn't really believe it until...I don't remember the moment, but it was weeks after the official cancellation, if not months.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 10:29 AM

DELIA

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Not sure I'm all clear on your user name reference, but I honestly didn't think Firefly was 'done' till after they kept it off the air. A friend , who is vastly more up on the Entertainment news, made some comment that it was cancelled. I scoffed, internally, thinking that she had no clue of what she spoke. She didn't even WATCH it , so what did she know?

However, when I heard that they were showing the 'pilot' of the show which had already been on the air..I did become a bit suspicious.

Fox TV pin head execs!

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I'll try again. I figured that once the show had been on for over a month, the characters' names should all have been snapped up as user names, but a major one wasn't, and that made me wonder just how many people were watching, since quality doesn't matter a bit, just numbers (insert the crappy yet popular reality show of your choice as an example here).

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 10:48 AM

BADGERSHAT

I knew when my friend's uncle (in the "biz") told me that it had been cancelled--right around Thanksgiving Weekend, in fact--and they were gonna show the pilot last. Even he was scratching his head ("Bring a show on Fridays, skip the pilot, cancel it, THEN show the pilot after the fact? Muct be sone pretty good crack at FOX..."

--The Hat/Jefé

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"I like smackin 'em"--Jayne

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 11:21 AM

34CYGNI

The show was doomed from the moment I decided that I liked it. Any show I genuinely enjoy inevitably dies on the vine if I'm there watching it during its first season -- I'm like some sort of Unholy Nielsen Family of Doom.

Off the top of my head, I killed "The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr."... I killed "Brimstone"... I killed "Max Headroom"... Jah forgive me, but I killed "My So-Called Life," "Freaks and Geeks," and most recently, "Wonderfalls."

Please accept my sincere apologies for what happened to "Firefly"... Mea saurus, mea saurus, mea maxima saurus.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 11:25 AM

GUNSLINGINBROWNCOAT

I think I knew it's chances were pretty slim when I realized I had only caught the pilot by accident, and that I wasn't seeing any commercials whatsoever for it at other times during the week.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 12:00 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.

I really knew, in my hear of hearts, that Firefly wasn't going to make it when it was prempted to show Happy Gilmore the weekend they were to release some Adam Sandler flick.

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 12:08 PM

DRACOS

Before the show started airing I never thought for a moment that Firefly would make it.

I can honestly say that I didnt like the look of the show before I watched it and never would have if Sci-fi hadnt pushed Farscape back an extra hour that season (which ironically helped kill that too).

I basically caught "The Train Job" by chance. I had hated the preveiws for the show, the title sounded goofy, and I quite frankly didnt have the time to get hooked on another show. I had an hour to kill though and turned it on hoping at the very least that it would give me the opportunity to make more than a couple of good wisecracks.

I had no idea what I was in for.

-Dracos: Impromptu Authoritarian Dark Tower Geek-

Dont ask me silly questions.
I wont play silly games.
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Somebody tries to kill you you go ahead and try to kill them right on back!

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 12:51 PM

DARKJESTER

I agree with Neroli - it was when the show was being pre-empted for the Monarch Butterfly Mating Season Special or some such

But when it really hit home was when I missed "Ariel" AND had forgotten to set my VCR to tape it (My son took me out for my birthday {to McD's - he was 9}). When I got home and realized that I hadn't taped it, I almost cried, because I KNEW I would never see the episode in a re-run. I assumed I would NEVER see it. That's when it finally broke out of my sub-conscious mind, and I realized that Firefly was doomed.

MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."

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Saturday, May 1, 2004 1:12 PM

ZOID

Delia:

Look up clueless in a dictionary and you'll find a picture of me alongside the definition. I skipped all over, following it around Fox' World Series coverage. Then after watching OiS, Fox announced that there would be a special 2-hour episode the next week. "Cool!", I thought (being the big dumb animal I am).

After the 2-hour ep, which I looooved, I very clearly remember thinking, "I love this show! This is the best series television in history." I ranted and raved to all my friends. I forced my children to watch on Fridays before Farscape. I could hardly wait until what I perceived as a midseason break was over (figured it had to do with rescheduling for NFL playoffs). After a couple of weeks, I went to Fox' website to see if maybe they had moved it to another day. Y'all know the rest.

I wanted to just go ahead and curl up for the Big Dirt Nap. And I'm still not over it. As Mal says in OoG, "I'm never leaving Serenity."

Thanks for digging a spoon into that wound for me... ;)

Respectfully,

zoid
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Saturday, May 1, 2004 3:27 PM

HOWDYROCKERBABY1

It must be a regional thing because on my Fox station they showed lots of Firefly commercials, they were always the same one before the season started, but i saw them quite often, they started here maybe 2 months before the show even premiered.

I didn't even know it was cancelled until my mom looked on the internet and found one of the many petitions made for saving the show. When she told me i was very very sad....

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