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lol. Don't you just love Joss' openess? Gotta wonder where his next TV series will go whatever it is. I don't think he would touch Fox anymore and he doesn't seem to happy with The WB right now.

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1) Don't shop at Barnes & Noble, shop at Borders. They're the bomb.

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I don't live in the UK. But if I'm there, I'll look them up. ;)


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Originally posted by DarkHood:
lol. Don't you just love Joss' openess? Gotta wonder where his next TV series will go whatever it is. I don't think he would touch Fox anymore and he doesn't seem to happy with The WB right now.

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What's a writer to do when his three beloved TV shows--'Buffy,' 'Angel,' and 'Firefly'--are off the air? If you're Joss Whedon, you move into movies and mess with Marvel's comic-book mutants.

JW: ...(talked about WB cancelling Angel, and then how there is no one with vision.) Even though Fox invested millions of dollars in Firefly, they ultimately didn't believe in it. They scheduled it in the death slot [Friday] and let it die.
EW: So they invested millions in a show they didn't like, just to kill it? Why would they do that?
JW: [Bewildered] Because Fox is a bad network that makes bad decisions. [While The WB would not comment, a Fox spokesperson said, "We wish Firefly had found an audience, and we would like nothing better than to be in business with Joss again."]
EW: About Serenity: There were rumors you were asked to make some changes to your screen play to accommodate Universal's vision for franchising. True?
JW: Absolute nonsense....Obviously Universal does see this as a potential franchise-springboard marketing vehicle. But none of that matters unless I make a movie that not only people who loved Firefly will respect, but people who never heard of it can walk in and have a wonderful time.
EW: Are you losing any cast members?
JW. Every. Single. Member. Of. The. TV. Show. Is. Back. I wouldn't have done it without everybody.

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But apart from that. Evil.

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Hey, in the States, Barnes & Noble is the evil one, and you know this because Starbucks is Evil, and by extension, so is the Bookstore that has Starbucks within it.

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But apart from that. Evil.

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Hey, in the States, Barnes & Noble is the evil one, and you know this because Starbucks is Evil, and by extension, so is the Bookstore that has Starbucks within it.

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My point precisely - cos guess which coffee shop is in our borders ....Starbucks. I knew there was a reason borders were evil.

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This sounds like a job for Tyler Durden!

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I subscribe to Entertainment Weekly. The interview is in the May 21st, 2004 issue, on page 47-48. The article is titled: "The X Factor." Below are the quotes where Firefly was mentioned:

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What's a writer to do when his three beloved TV shows--'Buffy,' 'Angel,' and 'Firefly'--are off the air? If you're Joss Whedon, you move into movies and mess with Marvel's comic-book mutants.

JW: ...(talked about WB cancelling Angel, and then how there is no one with vision.) Even though Fox invested millions of dollars in Firefly, they ultimately didn't believe in it. They scheduled it in the death slot [Friday] and let it die.
EW: So they invested millions in a show they didn't like, just to kill it? Why would they do that?
JW: [Bewildered] Because Fox is a bad network that makes bad decisions. [While The WB would not comment, a Fox spokesperson said, "We wish Firefly had found an audience, and we would like nothing better than to be in business with Joss again."]
EW: About Serenity: There were rumors you were asked to make some changes to your screen play to accommodate Universal's vision for franchising. True?
JW: Absolute nonsense....Obviously Universal does see this as a potential franchise-springboard marketing vehicle. But none of that matters unless I make a movie that not only people who loved Firefly will respect, but people who never heard of it can walk in and have a wonderful time.
EW: Are you losing any cast members?
JW. Every. Single. Member. Of. The. TV. Show. Is. Back. I wouldn't have done it without everybody.

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Subject: Firefly, a lost treasure...

In your latest issue of Entertainment Weekly magazine you published an article entitled "X-Factor" in which Writer/Director/Genius Joss Whedon was interviewed. In this article Whedon mentioned his opinions about Fox broadcasting company and a reply from Fox was quoted as saying: "We wish Firefly had found an audience, and we would like nothing better than to be in business with Joss again".
That statement enrages me. I am a newfound fan of the series Firefly. I heard of the series from a webcomic called Player vs. Player. ( http://www.pvponline.com) After watching the show on rented DVD's I immediatly went out and bought the set of DVDs. In the last 2 months I have watched the entire series 6 times through and spread the joy of the series to 9 other people. Not yet has anyone who watched this series on my recommendation disliked it.
If Firefly were still on television and NOT under the control of a broadcasting company like Fox I believe it would be the most popular show on TV. Firefly has done nothing but GROW in fanbase since it was taken off the air. With the release of the DVD set the fanbase continues to grow exponentially and (as you know) a movie is even in production for this show which Fox claims to have no fanbase? If Firefly were a proven "flop" as Fox seems to think, why would a group like Universal Studios be willing to make a film based on the series?
There is no show on television these days that can claim to have what Firefly does. It is witty, dramatic, heart-wrenching, exciting, scary and even hilarious. The show has elements for ALL audiences. It has a great "dry humor" as well as more obvious humor; it has action, adventure; elements of science fiction, western, comedy and drama.
Please let the readers of Entertainment Weekly know that Firefly is MUCH more than Fox believes it to be. The numbers don't lie. Amazon.com rates the Firefly DVD set as number 71 on their list for DVDs. 71 out of some thousands and thousands of DVD's available. And this is supposed to be a show with "no fanbase". Simply put, Fox has no idea what it is talking about.

Sincerely,
James Wright; a Firefly addict

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Joss stated that Fox TV is “a bad network that makes bad decisions”. Fox TV responded, "We wish Firefly had found an audience, and we would like nothing better than to be in business with Joss again." What was left unsaid by the network’s mouthpiece was that Fox thought so highly of Mr. Whedon’s work that they: 1.) Failed to air the 2-hour movie at the start of the series, as was necessary in order to introduce viewers to the characters and setting; 2.) Moved the start time of the weekly episodes and skipped weeks because of baseball and football coverage; 3.) Showed episodes out of order, which scrambled the plot arc. I believe it’s obvious that Fox TV had no appreciation of the art Joss had created, and no respect for Mr. Whedon himself. If Fox TV had made some concessions for the fact that Firefly’s poor showing in the ratings was due in majority to their own mismanagement of the property, their statement would hold more weight. In that light, their spokesperson’s statement sounds more like an impersonal boilerplate rejection letter than anything like a heartfelt attempt at reconciliation. Yet another insult from those ignoramuses, and proof positive that Joss’ analysis of their practices is accurate.

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Originally posted by Pselus:
I'm a man (23 year old to be precise)

letters@ew.com is the email address for letters about articles.

GET TO WRITING FOLKS!
the more letters we write the more chance they'll print something...
and if you must be insulting to Fox try to be nicely insulting...we want them to know we don't like Fox but we don't want to look like a group of 10 year olds who just learned how to swear.

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my email (probably WAY too long):

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Subject: Firefly, a lost treasure...

In your latest issue of Entertainment Weekly magazine you published an article entitled "X-Factor" in which Writer/Director/Genius Joss Whedon was interviewed. In this article Whedon mentioned his opinions about Fox broadcasting company and a reply from Fox was quoted as saying: "We wish Firefly had found an audience, and we would like nothing better than to be in business with Joss again".
That statement enrages me. I am a newfound fan of the series Firefly. I heard of the series from a webcomic called Player vs. Player. ( http://www.pvponline.com) After watching the show on rented DVD's I immediatly went out and bought the set of DVDs. In the last 2 months I have watched the entire series 6 times through and spread the joy of the series to 9 other people. Not yet has anyone who watched this series on my recommendation disliked it.
If Firefly were still on television and NOT under the control of a broadcasting company like Fox I believe it would be the most popular show on TV. Firefly has done nothing but GROW in fanbase since it was taken off the air. With the release of the DVD set the fanbase continues to grow exponentially and (as you know) a movie is even in production for this show which Fox claims to have no fanbase? If Firefly were a proven "flop" as Fox seems to think, why would a group like Universal Studios be willing to make a film based on the series?
There is no show on television these days that can claim to have what Firefly does. It is witty, dramatic, heart-wrenching, exciting, scary and even hilarious. The show has elements for ALL audiences. It has a great "dry humor" as well as more obvious humor; it has action, adventure; elements of science fiction, western, comedy and drama.
Please let the readers of Entertainment Weekly know that Firefly is MUCH more than Fox believes it to be. The numbers don't lie. Amazon.com rates the Firefly DVD set as number 71 on their list for DVDs. 71 out of some thousands and thousands of DVD's available. And this is supposed to be a show with "no fanbase". Simply put, Fox has no idea what it is talking about.

Sincerely,
James Wright; a Firefly addict

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even though we all love the series IMMENSLY...some people need to write small letters in...once I get going I can't shut up...so now it's up to all you.
WRITE!

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Originally posted by zoid:

Pselus:

Dude, again great idea, and sorry about any confusion over your plumbing (there wasn't anything on your Bio page).

I've written my letter. Here it is:

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Reader Comment on Article from May 21, 2004 issue, "The X Factor"

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Joss stated that Fox TV is “a bad network that makes bad decisions”. Fox TV responded, "We wish Firefly had found an audience, and we would like nothing better than to be in business with Joss again." What was left unsaid by the network’s mouthpiece was that Fox thought so highly of Mr. Whedon’s work that they: 1.) Failed to air the 2-hour movie at the start of the series, as was necessary in order to introduce viewers to the characters and setting; 2.) Moved the start time of the weekly episodes and skipped weeks because of baseball and football coverage; 3.) Showed episodes out of order, which scrambled the plot arc. I believe it’s obvious that Fox TV had no appreciation of the art Joss had created, and no respect for Mr. Whedon himself. If Fox TV had made some concessions for the fact that Firefly’s poor showing in the ratings was due in majority to their own mismanagement of the property, their statement would hold more weight. In that light, their spokesperson’s statement sounds more like an impersonal boilerplate rejection letter than anything like a heartfelt attempt at reconciliation. Yet another insult from those ignoramuses, and proof positive that Joss’ analysis of their practices is accurate.

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Anything y'all can think of before I mail it?



Respectfully,

zoid
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