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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't think that "Broadcast Network Show" was specified in the OP.

The 100 is pretty damn good today, although I don't know if you'd consider that cable or not. It does have commercials and doesn't have the budget that HBO or Showtime would.. I'm not even sure what network it's on since I watched it on Netflix. Fringe was great, and that was a network show.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Without regard to cultural impact:

When I am comparing other shows to Firefly, it seems that the death-defying facet of our episodes is hard to beat. In each of our shows, there is plausible concern that our BDH might not survive. But they are not Special Forces, not Super Heroes, not Gifted with Special Powers, not Superhumans, not a Government trained team, not a specially selected group by The Powers That Be. And not super-wealthy. But their lives are genuinely at risk in each episode.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Without regard to cultural impact:

When I am comparing other shows to Firefly, it seems that the death-defying facet of our episodes is hard to beat. In each of our shows, there is plausible concern that our BDH might not survive. But they are not Special Forces, not Super Heroes, not Gifted with Special Powers, not Superhumans, not a Government trained team, not a specially selected group by The Powers That Be. And not super-wealthy. But their lives are genuinely at risk in each episode.

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Would Firefly eventually have gone off the rails, jumped the shark and would have Joss finally made a mess, made greatness but also made mistakes like he did so many other shows and movies series for example the Alien franchise

Firefly is great
and still has a huge following

groups eventually fade, website close and maybe Firefly's status, its legendary status, its cult status, 90% all its fandom will probably be lost in the mist and sands of time.

We are the old time fans

Honestly and being real with your self has it made the same impact as the other scifis the Matrix, the Japanese animations like Cowboy Beebop. The Star Trek television series, movies Inception? 'Superhero Genre' Dark Knight, the Avengers, the Disney Pixar style films, the Blaxpoiltaion flicks, the Horror genre, Martial Arts oldie movies, Post Apocalypse Terminator and Mad Max movies, the the Fantasy genre like Lord Of the Rings and the tv series Game of Thrones, StarWars, Twin Peaks? Nosferatu Murnau, Citizen Kane, Shawshank Redemption?
Will 'Firely' its only lasting impact now be matters such that it paved the way for tyhe return of the Fantasy Western like West World or the Sci-Fi Western PROSPECT or maybe Firefly will have made it more acceptable to mix Asian Orient culture with Western American culture? WHAT DID FIREFLY CHANGE , WHAT IMPACT?

I remember one time people also claimed Farscape and Battlestar were the best things ever made.... tv and film would never be the same they said?



Is Firefly now in retro cult mode, sleeping and laying dormant until someone else re-brands, re-imagines and revamps an old show for relaunch?

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Originally posted by OLDGUY:
closest (2) series for me:
1) The Expanse - similar feel - small group, becomes a "crew", have to fly under/off the radar, hide, be smart, not able to hang nose to nose against a professionally equipped and funded Federated govt military... Each character is unique, backstories yet to be learned about them...no shortage of folks getting killed, or loosing a fight in any given episode...excellent production quality - movie level graphics etc.

2) Last Ship - season 1 - I never watched it after that...I've heard it's great..but to me, part of the Firefly flavor was captured in season1 where you had a crew, limited power ship, need for refueling, supplies, isolated in a very hostile world, etc.

but to the question of Firefly - no, not always the greatest stories/production, and certainly will become more "dated" with time. What drew me in so deep, was the feeling of being such an underdog, having to use your smarts cause your guns and muscle were only going to get so far in a fight. That whole hide,run,dodge,fight enough to create the oppty to dodge again...and survive...and as they did, more character development of such a variety, that it couldn't help but be interesting when all those worlds collided aboard ship.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Since Firefly only a handful measure up ...

Breaking Bad
Entourage
Game Of Thrones
Big Bang Theory
Dice

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Since Firefly only a handful measure up ...

Breaking Bad
Entourage
Game Of Thrones
Big Bang Theory
Dice

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GoT is starting to sound like a binge-worthy experience, when I get to start watching it. Assuming it will become available on DVD.

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Originally posted by OLDGUY:
closest (2) series for me:
1) The Expanse - similar feel - small group, becomes a "crew", have to fly under/off the radar, hide, be smart, not able to hang nose to nose against a professionally equipped and funded Federated govt military... Each character is unique, backstories yet to be learned about them...no shortage of folks getting killed, or loosing a fight in any given episode...excellent production quality - movie level graphics etc.

2) Last Ship - season 1 - I never watched it after that...I've heard it's great..but to me, part of the Firefly flavor was captured in season1 where you had a crew, limited power ship, need for refueling, supplies, isolated in a very hostile world, etc.

but to the question of Firefly - no, not always the greatest stories/production, and certainly will become more "dated" with time. What drew me in so deep, was the feeling of being such an underdog, having to use your smarts cause your guns and muscle were only going to get so far in a fight. That whole hide,run,dodge,fight enough to create the oppty to dodge again...and survive...and as they did, more character development of such a variety, that it couldn't help but be interesting when all those worlds collided aboard ship.

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Just because you like Firefly, does not mean you are obligated to not watch more than one season.

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