Afraid to love this show by bugdog

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Afraid to love this show

POSTED BY: BUGDOG
UPDATED: Tuesday, October 8, 2002 06:25
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Monday, September 30, 2002 4:00 PM

Fox kills shows I really love. Can't live without Greg the Bunny, yet it's gone all the same.

So, I've decided to watch every episode of Firefly so I can hate it properly. Maybe if I hate it enough it won't get cancelled!

So that said, I love (er, I mean HATE) this show. I got the pilot off of IMesh this morning and I'm sitting here at work watching it.

I wish it were better quality, but hey, the sound is good and that's half the battle.

~bugdog

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Tuesday, October 1, 2002 5:13 AM

LIVINGIMPAIRED

What work do you do that you can sit around and watch scifi all day? 'Cause I want your job.

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"You still don't get it. It's not about right, not about wrong... It's about Power." —Morph-O-Monster, "Lessons"

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Tuesday, October 1, 2002 1:41 PM

BUGDOG

Basically I man the phones between 7pm and 7am Friday thru Monday night for a really big computer company. The help desk is technically closed after midnight, so I get to decide how business critical a help desk call is and if I'm going to fix the problem or it will wait until 7am. In addition to that, I make sure major issues get fixed within their SLA (service level agreement) time. I get to wake up all sorts of people who make more money than I do and put them to work.
Of course, the really cool part is that I get maybe two calls a night. I'm there as insurance against the next Code Red or when mail servers die. Yeah, the NOC might be there too, but the help desk almost always gets the first calls denoting big trouble.

I installed a DVD player and a good video card in my second PC at work and spend most of my nights watching movies and things I've downloaded online. It's a great job... but I'm a contractor and my lease (so to speak) is up soon. This is the second time they've called me back (you can only work for a year at this place then they force you to take off 100 days before re-hiring you - stupid, stupid policy)

~bugdog (who really enjoyed the pilot)

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Wednesday, October 2, 2002 7:15 AM

ZICSOFT

If they really need you on a permanent basis, they should offer you a proper job. Reliance on contractors for this kind of job is a sign of inept managers who don't know how to make a business case for permanent staffing. The 100-day thing is obviously meant to prevent this -- and just as obviously doesn't work.

I contracted in one place that had a rule against used contractors for more than six months. But of course, exceptions to this rule were the rule. So the only effect was that I had to get a new badge photo every six months. Stupid.

About goofing off at work. I do my share -- games, online movies, etc. And of course, online scmoozing! My boss knows I do this. But she also knows I pull long hours and work hard. And she's smart enough to know that she can get more out of me if she forces me to set goals and stick to them, than if she babysits me all the time. Were that all bosses that smart!

JOSS, WHERE'S MY CHECK???!!!

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Friday, October 4, 2002 5:31 AM

WILLIAM

Fox will cancel it soon...Not !

Fox will cancel it after the second season... Yes !

Fox has a thing about cancelling shows when the show is at it's peak. They'll make some excuse like the ratings although maintaining aren't increasing, then they'll bring in a new show and like before put it at the Dead Slot Friday and expect it to do really well.

One thing is confirmed... FOX don't really know how to schedule shows, promote shows and have faith in shows.

Dark Angel is a great example.

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Friday, October 4, 2002 8:04 AM

ZICSOFT

Quote:
Originally posted by William:

One thing is confirmed... FOX don't really know how to schedule shows, promote shows and have faith in shows.

Which makes them exactly like all the other TV networks. The people who run them would rather walk to work naked than take any real risks with programming. The only mystery is that interesting, original programming gets any air time at all.

JOSS, WHERE'S MY CHECK???!!!

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Friday, October 4, 2002 10:26 AM

KAYLEE

I less than 30 minutes ago just watched 'The Train Job' being in the UK. I am in LOVE with this show. I alway's thought it would be a show i watched, just because it's from Joss Whedon (my idol). But, this show is great. I luv it, and i've only seen one episode. I haven't felt this way about a pilot since, this little show, you guy's probably haven't heard of, apparently some girl slays Vampires *wacky*.

I remember watching the little clips on yahoo and thinking, this handheld camera thing is going to piss me off through the whole episode. It didn't. Infact, it only improved the episode. Mal's great, hate Jayne! Hate him. Book could be interesting and Kaylee is just so damn cute.

Can't wait to download 'Bushwacked'.

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Friday, October 4, 2002 1:06 PM

ZICSOFT

Don't you just love the internet? If it went away, I'd just have to kill myself!

If you liked "The Train Job" you'll like the eps you haven't seen yet even better. TTJ is a good ep, but it's a long way from the best of the eps of seen.

Note that TTJ is not the pilot, it's just the first ep broadcast. The pilot episode, "Serenity" has never been broadcast, though a bad-quality bootleg is making the rounds of the net. It's very, very good, and I'm hoping that when they finish retooling it to satisfy the network, it'll still be good enough to blow your socks off. Supposedly it will air in a couple of months.

JOSS, WHERE'S MY CHECK???!!!

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Saturday, October 5, 2002 12:57 AM

KAYLEE

We'll it technically is the pilot. But i know of 'Serenity' and all that. I'm already a complete Firefly geek, (not that I'm a geek

I just think the Train job was amazing and i pray that today's ratings are an improvement

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Saturday, October 5, 2002 9:07 AM

ZICSOFT

Excuse my nitpicking. It's just that a pilot is a sort of test episode. It's not necessarily the first ep shown. Star Trek TOS had two pilots. One was never shown at all. The other (Where No Man Has Gone Before) was shown as the fourth episode.

JOSS, WHERE'S MY CHECK???!!!

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Saturday, October 5, 2002 3:24 PM

BUGDOG

Well, I'm back at work (after a long 4 days off, heh heh) and I'm probably going to see if I can find some of the other Firefly episodes to download.

My husband and I have a new ritual on Friday nights. Right after Firefly is over, we stand around in the kitchen and loudly discuss how much we hate the show and everyone on it, how much it sucks and how Fox had better cancel it, but how we can't help but watch it - like a train wreck, ya know?
With any luck, the kitchen demons

will pass this along to the TV demons and this will insure a long life for Firefly. And Mal. Because I love a man in suspenders.

If bashing the show doesn't work, maybe I'll make note of the advertisers, buy their stuff, buy some postcards and glue, glue the UPC codes from the stuff onto the postcards and send the postcards to the advertisers saying "I bought this because you bought time on Firefly." (Yeah, I have way too much free time on my hands.)

Do trucks have UPC codes?

~bugdog (who has good reason to fear TPTB at Fox - they killed Greg the Bunny, Titus and Futurama!)

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Sunday, October 6, 2002 8:45 AM

WILLIAM

I've not seen Firefly yet, since I live in Soctland, but from what I've seen and heard it looks far too good to miss.

Why is it that Firefly gets bad ratings, when it's following show John Doe is getting so much more ? I don't really understand.

Firefly is made by Joss Whedon, Do people know that ? Maybe all those Buffy and Angel fans out there should really check it out. It's made my Joss Whedon doesn't that mean something ?

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Sunday, October 6, 2002 8:53 AM

POSSESSION

Just because the show is created by Joss, doesn't mean all Buffy and Angel fans will watch. Granted, yes, that's why I started watching, but I've really gotten to love (I mean hate too!) this show. It's unique and amazingly written, and I love the plot. Maybe a "western in space" just isn't what some fans are interested in, just like how I'm not interested in checking out John Doe.

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Sunday, October 6, 2002 8:57 AM

WILLIAM

I guess you're right, but wouldn't it be great if Firefly gets a full first season.

Buffy and Angel fans should know that, Joss Whedon knows how to write for his characters. Isn't the Characters on the show more important, than the whole "It's a western set in space" thing ? I mean isn't the Characters on Buffy and Angel the reason why BTVS fans love the show so much ?

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Sunday, October 6, 2002 9:11 AM

POSSESSION

I get what you mean, it should be about the characters and the way it's written and so on, but if I person just isn't into any science fiction show, they're not going to give it a chance... they might like it, you never know.

A perfect example is myself, actually. I'm a big fan of the WB's Gilmore Girls, but when it first premiere I thought it was some crappy, 7th Heaven type show. It's just not my genre, so I didn't give it a chance. I eventually did, I realized I was wrong, and I adore it.

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Sunday, October 6, 2002 11:21 AM

ZICSOFT

Quote:
Originally posted by William:
I've not seen Firefly yet, since I live in Soctland, but from what I've seen and heard it looks far too good to miss.

Why is it that Firefly gets bad ratings, when it's following show John Doe is getting so much more ? I don't really understand.

Firefly is made by Joss Whedon, Do people know that ? Maybe all those Buffy and Angel fans out there should really check it out. It's made my Joss Whedon doesn't that mean something ?

Buffy and Angel have always had really weak ratings. But they're on networks with really weak market penetration (where I live you can't get WB or UPN unless you have cable; in some markets they're not available at all), so nobody expects them to do any better. Indeed, Buffy is often credited with saving WB from oblivion.

Despite its pseudo-quirky premise, John Doe is basically a kind of cop show. Those are always crowd pleasers. It's quite possible that Firefly will never have the kind of big ratings that mind candy shows generate. But Firefly doesn't need numbers to be successful -- it just needs an audience that advertisers want to buy access to. And Firefly has an edge there, because it's got to be popular among techno-geeks, and people like that have more than their share of disposable income.

JOSS, WHERE'S MY CHECK???!!!

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Tuesday, October 8, 2002 6:25 AM

QUILL

I doubt this show will last more than a season. Sci-fi scares the networks, and the best sci-fi shows of the last ten years went down the tubes very quickly (exception made for B5, which was in something of its own category). The only superior one to last was Farscape, and look what happened to it... But I will keep hoping.

Inside every cynic there's an idealist desperately yearning to be let out, and when they are let out they're usually a real pain and cause all sorts of trouble. --Chris Boucher

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