Imponderables: In The Whole World... by nvghostrider

blarg! Well if today wasn't gross enough now I get to be uber nervous for a while. Layoff talks have been swirling around the office for a while now and tomorrow is judgment day. My manager just asked me if I'm going to work at the office or from home tomorrow so he'll know whether to set up a call or a meeting in his office for us. ugh.

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Monday, January 26, 2009 10:26 AM

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Favorite weather? 80 and sunny with a light breeze. Anything 95+ is fun too, because that means it’s 80 and breezy at the beach, lol. The weather here in SoCal is pretty much perfect for me, though I do wish we had more thunderstorms. When it does rain here, it’s pretty light. Every now and then I want a serious, batten down the hatches storm – wind, lightning, thunder, power outages, the whole bit. If we could have one or two storms like that each winter, I would be 100% happy with the weather here.

FLT, on the creative writing prof, he may be trying to push you to find your artistic voice under less than optimal working conditions, which will make you grow as a writer. I think college students typically take creative writing courses for two reasons, either as a “fluff” class to fill out their general ed requirement, or because they want to have a career that involves writing of some sort. Making a class non-fluffy for the first students will help your course be taken more seriously. And putting tight restrictions on the aspiring writers will help them become better writers and be better prepared to actually go into a career involving writing.

My experience working in a creative profession (game design, which has a lot in common with writing, though it’s much less linear) has been that anything that comes with money attached is going to have crazy tight restrictions. And anything you try to get going yourself (I’ve worked multiple start-ups) comes with the restrictions involved in not really having any money and needing to get everything done asap. Anything that doesn’t come with tight restrictions in one way or another is a hobby, not a profession. If you do anything creative for a living, I really think you almost never have any room to breathe. It’s still about your creative vision, but only within the confines of the allotted time and money, and within what your boss likes, and within what the CEO or studio head likes, and within what the publisher or funder thinks the market will like. Either you can learn to thrive within these tiny spaces, figuring out ways to be more creative and clever because of the restrictions, or you go back to writing/designing/painting/whatever “for yourself”, with no one else’s restrictions on it. And there’s nothing wrong with that, but it won’t pay the bills.

So don’t be too hard on your prof. His job is to teach you something, to help you be a better writer, not to give you college credit for writing for yourself. Look at it as a learning opportunity (obviously) and work within the given restrictions. It may actually help you find your creative strengths in the long run.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Monday, January 26, 2009 10:41 AM

You're just sooo articulate CK ( are you naked too??()

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, January 26, 2009 11:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by MsA:
You're just sooo articulate CK ( are you naked too??()

Is that how you picture her too? :-P

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Monday, January 26, 2009 12:04 PM

I don't think I could do anything creative professionally. I get too distracted and fly off on tangents so easily. Unless it was something fun that I could apply and research at will. Character research is always fun.

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Monday, January 26, 2009 12:07 PM

TRAVELER

I took two writing courses. One was essays and the other was technical reports. Essays was a soso course. I never knew there were different types. The technical was easy because everything was spelled out for you.

My favorite essay was a comparison. A compared steam to diesel locomotives. I may still have copies buried somewhere.

But poetry. I no nothing about poetry. I just know Robert Frost is depressing.

http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler

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Monday, January 26, 2009 2:18 PM

there u go bein all articulate with ur werds CK -_- i know, it just sucks is all ><

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Monday, January 26, 2009 2:55 PM

TRAVELER

I can be terse.

http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler

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Monday, January 26, 2009 4:10 PM

Were you laconic in flight school??

Ok small headache but mostly just wow my schedule is so packed I can't blink.. probably won't be around much this week.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, January 26, 2009 5:17 PM

*gets MsA some advil and sets a diet coke with lime aside in the bar* ;)

aaaaah i miss the BDS...unfortunately school is currently preventing me from watching it with its scholarly studyishness @_@

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Monday, January 26, 2009 7:26 PM

TRAVELER

I actually talk to much. Also I talk about things I really have no clue about. People are always correcting my ignorance. But it is fun.

http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler

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Tuesday, January 27, 2009 3:35 AM

See that's why u gotta talk about things that no one else knows anything about, cuz then no one can call you on it, and if it's something reeeeeally strange, they'll rush back to their cubicles to look it up and u can watch em scramble XD lolz

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Tuesday, January 27, 2009 5:44 AM

*nervous* My meeting to find out whether I'm laid off or not is at 3:45. I'm gonna be fidgeting all day.

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Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8:52 AM

That sucks Zeek.

Working. Distracted.

Gaseous?

Definately hungry.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

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Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:50 AM

HUGS Zeek you will be fine:)

NV

Ok back to work

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:50 AM

I survived. Some very good people did not. This year is going to suck. I don't know how we're going to get our work done. What a crappy day.

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Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:02 PM

*phew* glad you survived zeek, sorry about the good ppl who didnt

why is it they cut people who actually *know* what theyre doing?

*heads off to bar to ponder*

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Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:30 PM

HUGS I am so sorry sweety...I'm glad you're not outsourced though:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:28 AM

morning bump with a ponder

How do these people with no jobs get by?? I ask because I seem to deal with a large number of students who have parent or parents with no job. SO how does that work?? How do you pay rent, get food, etc??

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:07 AM

Mooching. Lots and lots of mooching.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:31 AM

I'd almost like not working but the boredom would kill me. Seems I'm always doing something on the side for extra bucks.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:48 AM

Every summer I end up coming up with chores and improvements 'cause the boredom of sitting around makes me nuts

NV

Interesting theory Zeek...but there are only so many people you can ask and how long before they'd get sick and tired of you taking from them without giving anything back?

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:56 AM

I think guilt is a big part of it. People feel guilty not helping someone if they problem is rubbed in their face all the time. My friend with the financially challenged roommate is now stuck giving her rides to work all the time because her finances are so bad she can't keep her car in working order. If this was just a random person she didn't see every day she's say "you're problem deal with it". Since it's right in front of her she'll keep helping out and just resent her roommate for it.

The moochers just need to constantly show up on someone's doorstep looking all hungry and helpless.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:12 AM

DANCINGNEKO

MsA: The ones I know the most of are the Micronesian/Bikini Atoll folks (they were promised to be cared for all their lives by the gov't for using their island as a testing site).

Someone told me that one way to "beat" the system is to apply for unemployment insurance, look for jobs, get hired and work for a day or two, then quit, claiming that the job wasn't a good fit. (I have no idea if that's true or not.)

Food-wise, I'd guess that they'd use food stamps and the WIC (women's and children's supplemental for families that qualify), and the free/reduced meals at school.

I know of someone who is currently living off of savings (frugally), the occasional side job, and occasional family support (money given by family -- not asked for, mind you....). But then again, that person has been really burned out, but has started looking for jobs again. (And that's probably not the kind of person you're asking about either.)

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:38 PM

I'd seen people make it from mooching. Not sure how they manage but they do.

Then again selling a dimes and quarters weekly can keep a person fed for quite a while.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:35 PM

according to the bf some ppl in our complex actually go dumpster-diving for returnables; not sure why cuz u can't get much from it unless the entire dumpster is filled with the things...dunno.

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Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:13 AM

HUGS Neko no I was not talking about those who live frugally and had their job taken from them. I'm thinking more of some of the parents I work with who haven't been employed in years and years and don't seem to have any interest in looking for work. I'm just trying to figure out how they manage and how best to help them because it's so stressful for the kids and it prevents the kids having access to all kinds of care they need.... sigh

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:53 AM

BUMPING
For slow morning wakeup. Just now gaining real conciousness.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

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Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:04 AM

I'm hear I'm just sleepy as hell (assuming hell is very sleepy). I don't know why my brain woke me up at 5am but my kitty was like "yay pets time?". So, I petted her for a while then rolled around trying to fall back asleep.

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Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:56 AM

Don't know if you've heard already NVG, but apparently they may be green lighting Ghost Rider 2 http://movies.ign.com/articles/949/949167p1.html Figured you'd like to know.

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Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:10 AM

As if he couldn't fuck it up enough the first time. If they could do something not so overblown some of the storylines are really worth seeing.
Just, Cage, sucks, blown, out donkey, rectum.
Meh, I'll still see it.
Can't be as bad as Pip fartin' on a snare drum.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

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Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:22 AM

ROTFLMAO... for some reason the Airheads reference just cracked me up

Zeek- gotta love the pet's version of events. " oh look my human is moving... must want to love me :)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:22 AM

lol I think I may have offended my friend by crying foul of her gift idea of getting tickets to a musical for her bf's birthday. I said it's the equivalent of a guy getting his gf tickets to a monster truck rally. This was over a messenger and I've gotten no response in over 10 minutes. I think it's a valid comparison unless he stated that he really enjoys musicals.

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Thursday, January 29, 2009 1:30 PM

Yeah I'd have stated it differently more... Are you sure he's really into musicals?? but hey valid comment

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:52 PM

Late afternoon bumpage for the thought of me owning muppets this weekend. I feel the need to set the hose on people and there is only one way to appease the feeling.

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Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:04 PM

DANCINGNEKO

NVG: Muppets? As in the Muppet Show? or an actual muppet? (and if it's the latter, which one are you getting?)
*suddenly remember a few of NVG's "hose" stories and backs away quickly* Make sure that you aim that thing away from me, or I'll aim a firehose at you... *stands next to MsA just in case NVG gets any ideas*

MsA: Yeah, I figured. My other guesses are: a) they're living off of disability (or something) which prohibits working and would cost them their benefits, b) subsistence-types (live mainly off what they can grow/hunt/fish/harvest), c) they (the parents) have become "comfortable" in their current lifestyle and they've got a "so what?" attitude towards the whole thing, d) the family is homeless and the parents are the ones who are taking care of their camp. (I know of families who are homeless because they can't afford rent, and make do with living in a tent somewhere....somebody's got to take care of the family's possessions and whatnot.)

*hugs MsA* I wish I could give you an answer to solve the problem. (You're mainly working with the elementary-age now, right?) The only things that I can think of is to teach them that earning something is better than waiting for something to be handed out to them...('course that's always after they've become comfortable in a stable environment -- namely school.)
A collegue of mine had her students earn money for activities that they wanted by collecting cans, doing on-campus odd jobs (car washes, etc.) and save the money for them to be used for those activities (prom, winterball, etc.). But that was mainly for only one or two of the "major" events in high school.

The dumpster divers for cans and recyclables probably do it at other places too...I remember hearing a story about a set of immigrant parents who did that in addition to working 9-5 jobs, and were able to send their kids to college with the money they made from collecting recyclables.

There also has been issues where I live with people trying to steal cans and bottles from the recycling bins on school campuses. (I kid you not.) So even if the amount is small, it's a fairly good return for doing little to no work.

I hate the fact that there are parents out there who seem to think/expect that schools will provide their kids with everything they need (food, education, health care) and the only thing that they need to provide the kids is with a roof and clothing.

*giggle* But Zeeeeeeeeeeek... *mockwhine* Doesn't everyone love a musical?

I agree with your assessment, but like MsA said, I think that it might have been a bit more tactful to say something along the lines of "Does he like musicals?" or somesuch.
I'm guessing that she's not the type of friend that you can tell things bluntly to. *shrug* Oh well.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 7:18 AM

She claims he mentioned wanting to see this musical. I then proceeded to send her a link to legally blonde the musical which is coming to Austin soon. hehe

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Friday, January 30, 2009 8:13 AM

I'm confused.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 8:16 AM

Wrath Of Khan the musical on Robot Chicken was awesome.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 1:09 PM

*is still trying to wrap her head around the concept of "Wrath of Khan" the musical...*

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Friday, January 30, 2009 5:25 PM

LEOPARDFLAN

O_O

O_o

-head explodies-

ow

could i get a new brain, please??

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Friday, January 30, 2009 5:29 PM

It was even in Italian:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Friday, January 30, 2009 6:29 PM

r u fr srs?

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Saturday, January 31, 2009 6:53 AM

Yup.... singing a full Khan opera in Italian

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Saturday, January 31, 2009 7:32 AM

*tries to keep brain from imploding*

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Saturday, January 31, 2009 7:37 AM

NAVYSEILS

This isn't really related to the Khan musical, but it is musical in nature...

Although I know the title of this thread is "In The Whole World...", no matter how many times I have saw it pop up on the recent activity section, my mind always jumps straight to "A Whole New World" As made famous by aladdin.

I dont even remember ever seeing that movie the whole way through, but it doesn't matter, it has me. Disney is in my brains and it is not letting go.

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Saturday, January 31, 2009 8:34 AM

lmao, sorry dude. think u need to watch dr horrible to get it unstuck ;) "Brand New Day" is an easy one to get stuck in ur head :P specially if u know the words

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Saturday, January 31, 2009 6:51 PM

Oh hugs Navy... NV 's been stuck with songs from Mary Poppins all day... disney is evil

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Sunday, February 1, 2009 7:47 AM