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Great Songs That Couldn't Be Made Today

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Wednesday, May 27, 2026 11:45 PM

BRENDA


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I have it on tape but I don't listen to it much. I've two or three Police songs on tape. Maybe another one of Sting solo.



Wow... that's about my count too.

Synchronicity II is hand's down my favorite song of theirs. Don't Stand So Close To Me is a certified banger. Every Breath You Take would be the third if it wasn't for the lyrics.

I love Sting's solo song Desert Rose.

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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.



Yup, Don't Stand So Close to Me. Have that on tape too.

Never heard Desert Rose.

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Wednesday, May 27, 2026 11:48 PM

BRENDA


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Yeah, and I'm sure to Bob it was just that. I bet his audiences did change. Doing that probably attracted a younger crowd that were just starting to hear electric. Jimi Hendrix played at Woodstock and all he played was electric.

Audiences changed. Beatles fans were really p'od when they broke up even though they knew it long before it happened.

Yup. Strange thing.



Yeah...

30 years from now kids are going to wonder how we even made music without AI.

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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.



Sadly, that I imagine will become true.

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Thursday, May 28, 2026 1:27 AM

BRENDA


Another this is by Cher "Git Down". It's about a woman who is a groupie and follows the bands.

"A woman on the roads leads a loose and lovin' life"

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Thursday, May 28, 2026 2:21 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
I have it on tape but I don't listen to it much. I've two or three Police songs on tape. Maybe another one of Sting solo.



Wow... that's about my count too.

Synchronicity II is hand's down my favorite song of theirs. Don't Stand So Close To Me is a certified banger. Every Breath You Take would be the third if it wasn't for the lyrics.

I love Sting's solo song Desert Rose.

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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.



Yup, Don't Stand So Close to Me. Have that on tape too.

Never heard Desert Rose.




I'll put it in the Music thread. I don't want to keep showing vids in here when I gave Jaynez crap for turning this into another Music thread.


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Thursday, May 28, 2026 3:44 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


ok staying with 'words'

Ronnie, Talk to Russia
https://soundcloud.com/prince/ronnie-talk-to-russia
Prince

Here's one songs of hidden mean, subtle cryptic protest hidden within a poem, some in the West were more free while others lived under theocracy, dictators etc Some songs are just about guys Cheating getting high and drunk or 'Sluts' who cheat...a girl named Macarena who cheats on her boyfriend with two friends while he’s being drafted into the army. Some are less subtle but then evolve Beatles’ ‘Back in the U.S.S.R.’: a nod to their fans behind the Iron Curtain, the parodies that later became a peace offerings. Political protests against leaders, mass shootings, criminal rapist culture, Not so much a great song, I never liked the vocal on Nirvana but I give him a nod for highling the crime and rape and abuse, ‘Polly’ it later played with benefits to help rape victims. Lots of hidden meanings in Latin America and Spanish songs, Flores, by Cuban artist Danay Suarez, is about resisting “stones” with “flowers” and from Japan layer upon layer of history in a protest song from 1961 that became the top song in the US. Sukiyaki by Kyu Sakamoto has an amazing back story it mourned the change in his own Japanese culture. But very few people realized that this song, written by Kyu’s friend Rousuke Ei, was inspired by the deep sense of injustic. The phrase "I don't like Mondays" there is some English Irish, Jew-Anglo-Irish guy maybe Geldof, it became famous from a 1979 song by Boomtown Rats, inspired by a tragic school shooting, and has since entered popular culture, the song followed years after he boasted the Boomtown Rats were bigger than some US bands and after Dylan/Woody Guthrie influences were part of his , it was controversial back then when there were less shootings so can you do it now? "Pumped Up Kicks" is a song by American indie pop band Foster the People that one was almost banned it was released as the band's debut single in September 2010. Iran Middle East comments they did it already "Rock the Casbah" is a song by the English punk rock band the Clash. A great political song “We Didn’t Start the Fire” you are not allowed criticize both sides anymore you must pick a side in the Uniparty system.




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Beethoven was by all stories stone deaf towards the end of his life. But he understood that sound was vibration. It's said that he had the legs cut off of pianos so they laid flat on the floor. Then he would lay on the floor with one ear on it, so he could feel the vibrations to still be able to write.

The greatest symphonies and such were written by Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin and the like. Modern composers cannot in my opinion come close. And neither would bloody AI.

Music is also mathematics. AI may understand the mathematics of music but there is no soul.



I read he also had perfect pitch, that's why he could remember his 'music' scores, he knows what every instrument plays where every note should be, his strings and flutes and drums, he could read a musical notation and hear it perfectly in his head.

Forgot Elvis was a mutt-mix of immigration and Native, I knew he was Native and something else, he probably experienced the melting pot of sounds that inspired him.

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Thursday, May 28, 2026 5:11 PM

BRENDA


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
I have it on tape but I don't listen to it much. I've two or three Police songs on tape. Maybe another one of Sting solo.



Wow... that's about my count too.

Synchronicity II is hand's down my favorite song of theirs. Don't Stand So Close To Me is a certified banger. Every Breath You Take would be the third if it wasn't for the lyrics.

I love Sting's solo song Desert Rose.

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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.



Yup, Don't Stand So Close to Me. Have that on tape too.

Never heard Desert Rose.




I'll put it in the Music thread. I don't want to keep showing vids in here when I gave Jaynez crap for turning this into another Music thread.


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No worries.

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Thursday, May 28, 2026 5:14 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
ok staying with 'words'

Ronnie, Talk to Russia
https://soundcloud.com/prince/ronnie-talk-to-russia
Prince

Here's one songs of hidden mean, subtle cryptic protest hidden within a poem, some in the West were more free while others lived under theocracy, dictators etc Some songs are just about guys Cheating getting high and drunk or 'Sluts' who cheat...a girl named Macarena who cheats on her boyfriend with two friends while he’s being drafted into the army. Some are less subtle but then evolve Beatles’ ‘Back in the U.S.S.R.’: a nod to their fans behind the Iron Curtain, the parodies that later became a peace offerings. Political protests against leaders, mass shootings, criminal rapist culture, Not so much a great song, I never liked the vocal on Nirvana but I give him a nod for highling the crime and rape and abuse, ‘Polly’ it later played with benefits to help rape victims. Lots of hidden meanings in Latin America and Spanish songs, Flores, by Cuban artist Danay Suarez, is about resisting “stones” with “flowers” and from Japan layer upon layer of history in a protest song from 1961 that became the top song in the US. Sukiyaki by Kyu Sakamoto has an amazing back story it mourned the change in his own Japanese culture. But very few people realized that this song, written by Kyu’s friend Rousuke Ei, was inspired by the deep sense of injustic. The phrase "I don't like Mondays" there is some English Irish, Jew-Anglo-Irish guy maybe Geldof, it became famous from a 1979 song by Boomtown Rats, inspired by a tragic school shooting, and has since entered popular culture, the song followed years after he boasted the Boomtown Rats were bigger than some US bands and after Dylan/Woody Guthrie influences were part of his , it was controversial back then when there were less shootings so can you do it now? "Pumped Up Kicks" is a song by American indie pop band Foster the People that one was almost banned it was released as the band's debut single in September 2010. Iran Middle East comments they did it already "Rock the Casbah" is a song by the English punk rock band the Clash. A great political song “We Didn’t Start the Fire” you are not allowed criticize both sides anymore you must pick a side in the Uniparty system.




Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Beethoven was by all stories stone deaf towards the end of his life. But he understood that sound was vibration. It's said that he had the legs cut off of pianos so they laid flat on the floor. Then he would lay on the floor with one ear on it, so he could feel the vibrations to still be able to write.

The greatest symphonies and such were written by Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin and the like. Modern composers cannot in my opinion come close. And neither would bloody AI.

Music is also mathematics. AI may understand the mathematics of music but there is no soul.



I read he also had perfect pitch, that's why he could remember his 'music' scores, he knows what every instrument plays where every note should be, his strings and flutes and drums, he could read a musical notation and hear it perfectly in his head.

Forgot Elvis was a mutt-mix of immigration and Native, I knew he was Native and something else, he probably experienced the melting pot of sounds that inspired him.



Beethoven probably did and in my opinion was the greatest classical composer next to Bach.

I'm sure Elvis did as a lot of us do. Music is universal around this world. It is one of things that enriches us all.

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Thursday, May 28, 2026 7:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm surprised that Pumped Up Kicks would have been banned.

Yanno... since we've been living in Clown World since about 2012.

This is again, kind of the point of the thread... That we live in a world where songs about shooting up schools to a beat you can dance to are fine, but Lisa Loeb would be shunned on lefty online hell for Stay.


But then you said that Pumped Up Kicks was made in 2010, and that kind of changes things a bit. We were still reasonably sane back then, at least relatively speaking.

Huh... I had no idea it was that old. The first time I'd heard it was probably in 2018 at work. I could only make out some of the words of the chorus but loved the sound. Wasn't until I finally figured out what song it was and listened to it at home when I went "Holy shit. That's not what I was expecting. It's such a happy sounding song".


Don't get me wrong. I like the song. It's on my playlist.



I remember one of the guys from the band in an interview laughing about how all the yuppies would be dancing to this song, not knowing what the hell they were dancing to. I get the feeling that he probably hates his audiences as much as Kurt Cobain hated his audience and wrote songs making fun of them, like In Bloom.

It's right along the same lines of OutKast making fun of all the white people weddings playing Hey Ya...

Seriously... Have you ever really listened to that one???




Don't Want to meet your Daddy. Just want you in my Caddy.

Don't want to meet your Mama. Just want to make you comma.

I'm just being honest.




I think the most insidious line that nobody talks about comes right before we're shaking it like a Polaroid picture, when he says "Lend me some sugar, I AM your neighbor!"

To me? That reads like dude is telling anyone who listens that he's a poon hound that has no interest in relationships, and now because black people have been placed into white neighborhoods by the government throught the entire country, dude is going to come over and fuck your white wife while you're at work. Good luck with the mixed baby and nobody there playing child support for the kid that's not yours. Cause Audre's already long gone.

I still like the song. It's still on my list. Because the fact that every single wedding party for 3 years had that song on their playlist is just about hilarious to me as it was to Andre.

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Thursday, May 28, 2026 11:26 PM

BRENDA


Maybe "Sweet Sister" by Queen wouldn't be redone either.



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Friday, May 29, 2026 2:20 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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I'm surprised that Pumped Up Kicks would have been banned.

Yanno... since we've been living in Clown World since about 2012.

This is again, kind of the point of the thread... That we live in a world where songs about shooting up schools to a beat you can dance to are fine, but Lisa Loeb would be shunned on lefty online hell for Stay.


But then you said that Pumped Up Kicks was made in 2010, and that kind of changes things a bit. We were still reasonably sane back then, at least relatively speaking.

Huh... I had no idea it was that old. The first time I'd heard it was probably in 2018 at work. I could only make out some of the words of the chorus but loved the sound. Wasn't until I finally figured out what song it was and listened to it at home when I went "Holy shit. That's not what I was expecting. It's such a happy sounding song".


Don't get me wrong. I like the song. It's on my playlist.



I remember one of the guys from the band in an interview laughing about how all the yuppies would be dancing to this song, not knowing what the hell they were dancing to. I get the feeling that he probably hates his audiences as much as Kurt Cobain hated his audience and wrote songs making fun of them, like In Bloom.

It's right along the same lines of OutKast making fun of all the white people weddings playing Hey Ya...

Seriously... Have you ever really listened to that one???



Don't Want to meet your Daddy. Just want you in my Caddy.

Don't want to meet your Mama. Just want to make you comma.

I'm just being honest.




I think the most insidious line that nobody talks about comes right before we're shaking it like a Polaroid picture, when he says "Lend me some sugar, I AM your neighbor!"

To me? That reads like dude is telling anyone who listens that he's a poon hound that has no interest in relationships, and now because black people have been placed into white neighborhoods by the government throught the entire country, dude is going to come over and fuck your white wife while you're at work. Good luck with the mixed baby and nobody there playing child support for the kid that's not yours. Cause Audre's already long gone.

I still like the song. It's still on my list. Because the fact that every single wedding party for 3 years had that song on their playlist is just about hilarious to me as it was to Andre.

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Yanno...

This is a great example of the Democratic Party and the very same people I'm talking about banning great songs if they came out today right here.

Somebody really stupid, like Ted, would come in here and read this post and call me a racist for saying what I said.

I don't need to go into any detail here. Everyone knows exactly what I'm talking about. And nobody will argue that this is not exactly what he would do. Probably along with calling me a Nazi too.




But Andre's a songwriter. And despite what Jaynze or JSF might say, because they hate Rap music or anything even remotely Rap-adjacent, Andre's one hell of a songwriter.

We already know that he got a lot of laughs out of all the white folk playing this song at every wedding with all of those lyrics tucked into it.


And hey... I could be wrong, and maybe that line was just innocuous. Just a funny coincidence in a song whose entire purpose is to be subversive through sheer and brutal honesty, hidden behind one hell of a tune and a great music video.

Nah... I'm sure Ted's right.

Andre isn't smart enough to write a lyric like that, is he?

And really...

Shame on me for being a white guy who would even bring the subject up in the first place.


Heh...



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Friday, May 29, 2026 2:37 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Heh...






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Saturday, May 30, 2026 6:19 PM

BRENDA


"Russians" by Sting couldn't be redone today.

In Europe and America
There's a growing feeling of hysteria
Forced to respond to the rhetorical speeches of the Soviet

There is no common sense on either side of the political fence

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Saturday, May 30, 2026 11:01 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I think that's by design, Brenda.

They're going to do whatever they're going to do no matter what we have to say about it.

They just give us the illusion of choice, and we get to watch all the less consequential things swing back wildly from side to side depending on which group of idiots and assholes are running the show at the time, while behind the scenes they're selling us all out everyday.

And none of them are EVER held accountable for the evil they do to the people.

If Trump can't or isn't going to fix any of this, then nobody ever will.

Maybe I was foolish to believe that he could.

Both parties suck so hard.


"Any way you look at it you lose."

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Sunday, May 31, 2026 5:58 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


the new political debate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_appropriation


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I don't want to make this just another "Music" thread since we already have 4 of them.

You're making this just another Music thread.




Anyways looking at it all from another angle not just words, taking another point, Jazz is Dead

something happened to 'Jazz' it was inspired by new edgy clownish lyrics and new world instruments, mixing a new world sound of marching war bands and some guy in the Deep South or Chicago on guitar, the stage shows and inspired by Native notes and those from from Blues and Country a mix of Africa beats and European harmonic chords

take this band 'Level 42'

its English Pop Jazz, very busy but very funky

Antifa could probably find the whole Pentatonic Eastern scale and 'Words' culturally offensive



the band's third single and their first top-30 single

My eyes wide open, I feel a breeze
Words softly spoken, in Cantonese
Standing at the master's side
Then with patience he confides
Secret knowledge, sacred ways
Pearls of wisdom from the dragon days

probably get accused of cultural appropriation or some crap today

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Sunday, May 31, 2026 3:37 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I've got Level 42's "Something About You" on my playlist. That was a great 80's jam.


On that note, you could put anything with a saxophone in it. I remember they were in a fair amount of 80's songs, and I always liked them.

Then Kenny G came out and ruined the saxophone for everybody.





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Not that I'm saying there was a sax in Something About You. Your post about Jazz not being commercially viable in current year made me think about the sax, specifically.



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