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River Sessions. A little help, please?

POSTED BY: JONUS
UPDATED: Thursday, January 19, 2006 15:32
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Monday, January 16, 2006 4:56 AM

JONUS


So I found the River sessions on some German site. Could one of you let me know what the correct order is to watch the videos? They're listed on the site like this:

Session 416 Second Excerpt
Session 1
Session 22
Session 165
Session 416 First Excerpt

Thanks.

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Monday, January 16, 2006 4:58 AM

HAEKELDRACHE


It´s

Session 1
Session 22
Session 165
Session 416 First Excerpt
Session 416 Second Excerpt

Enjoy! ;)



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Monday, January 16, 2006 5:06 AM

JONUS


Thank you!

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Monday, January 16, 2006 5:15 AM

AMITON


Actually, they're supposed to be watched in the oder listed, unless I'm mistaken =) They were released in that order, but you'd kind of have to watch them that way to understand why =p

Amiton.

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Monday, January 16, 2006 5:25 AM

THEONETRUEBIX


Ack. Yes, really, do yourself a favor and watch them in release order, not numerical order. The site in fact has listed them in proper release order, and structurally speaking that's the way they work.

FYI, since we're here, a single combined file is available at the R. Tam Sessions fansite, as is a page detailing the events surrounding these clips' release.

http://www.session416.com/

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Monday, January 16, 2006 5:30 AM

IMPRESSION


Where do I go or how do I get the River Sessions?

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Monday, January 16, 2006 5:38 AM

JONUS


I got them here:

http://downloads.scifinews.de/cat_1062.html

Mal would kick Han Solo's ass.
Correction
RIVER would kick Han Solo's ass.

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Monday, January 16, 2006 5:42 AM

SPINLAND


Yeah, you totally want to watch them in the listed order. The dramatic narrative (such as it is) is geared towards that; the listed order is the order in which they were actually released. Without getting spoilery, part of the interest is seeing the "last one" first, then watching events move towards the situation therein via the other sessions.

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Monday, January 16, 2006 3:04 PM

JONUS


So only one video has sound. Are they not supposed to have sound?

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Monday, January 16, 2006 3:12 PM

HAEKELDRACHE


Um... there should be Sound ;)

i´ve downed them at http://downloads.scifinews.de/cat_1062.html
too, and there is Sound

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Monday, January 16, 2006 3:17 PM

JONUS


Weird... That's where I downloaded them. And I also downloaded the file with them all in one clip. There's only sound during the part where Joss chokes and River looks into the camera and says "I can see you."

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Monday, January 16, 2006 3:28 PM

JACQUI


They should be watched as listed, with the "last" excerpt being seen first.

And the sound is the best part, really.

Go http://www.session416.com/mirrors <--here to have a choice of downloads, complete or separate.

That's where I got them and they should have sound.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:57 AM

KSC


Jonas, I had the same issue. I dont think it's the download. I tried on TWO seperate PC's and only got the sound on the one session. I even asked three online buddies to watch them, two had sound and one also had the same problem as you did. Then I tried my Mac and was able to watch all 5 clips with the sound intact. Maybe you need to install a updated version of QT or Real Player. Hope that helps.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:39 AM

RUXTON


Can someone please tell me WHY the River Tam sessions exist? What was Joss' purpose in creating them?

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:43 AM

CBY


Quote:

Originally posted by Jonus:
There's only sound during the part where Joss chokes and River looks into the camera and says "I can see you."

Mal would kick Han Solo's ass.



There isn't anything else happening. It's as simple as that.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:46 AM

KSC


Quote:

Originally posted by Ruxton:
Can someone please tell me WHY the River Tam sessions exist? What was Joss' purpose in creating them?



Advertisement! And what an excellent use of that. There was a lot of speculation concerning these videos. At first it was unknown who the actors were, or if perhaps they were fan made. Intrigue and word of mouth make for a great campaign.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:48 AM

SPINLAND


Quote:

Originally posted by Ruxton:
Can someone please tell me WHY the River Tam sessions exist? What was Joss' purpose in creating them?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_marketing

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:49 AM

AMITON


The spots were made by Joss (that's him opposite Summer at the table, btw) before Serenity came out as a viral ad campaign to draw interest and attention to the then forthcoming movie :) He called Summer at home and asked her to fly out to LA for a day or two to shoot them and then everything faded back into normalcy...for the time being :p

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:37 AM

RUXTON


AMITON, thank you very kindly for the good info. Of course I knew it was Joss.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:13 PM

RUXTON


SPINLAND, Also much appreciated. Lots of good stuff at the Wikipedia on the Firefly canon.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:00 PM

SPINLAND


You're very welcome. If you haven't seen it yet, here's a Firefly-only wiki:

http://www.fireflywiki.org/

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:48 PM

JONUS


Quote:

Originally posted by KSC:
Jonas, I had the same issue. I dont think it's the download. I tried on TWO seperate PC's and only got the sound on the one session. I even asked three online buddies to watch them, two had sound and one also had the same problem as you did. Then I tried my Mac and was able to watch all 5 clips with the sound intact. Maybe you need to install a updated version of QT or Real Player. Hope that helps.



Thanks. I'll try updating Quicktime. It's pathetic I've had the same version for years.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:55 PM

DC4BS


Yep. That seems to be the fix. Updating quicktime got sound for me.

I seriously resent apple bundling quicktime with itunes now though. I DON'T need or WANT that on my PC thank-you-very-much... Had to go in and rip itunes back out after quicktime was updated.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:18 PM

BOWIE


totally awsome. :) I'll just spread the verse about it a little......

If you play Nationstates.net check out the region Firefly.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:31 PM

THEONETRUEBIX


There are problems with some of the copies out there. The single file available via the previously-mentioned session416.com website (not the mirrors page there, but the download link on the main page) is the corrected single-file version.

As for the questions such as "why?" see the linked file off the main session416.com page, which you can get to here:

http://www.session416.com/sessions_story

Meanwhile, why is FFF no longer properly sending me email notifications of threads I've posted to and indicated that I should be notified?

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:19 PM

RUXTON


Now that I understand what the River Tam (RT) sessions are, I have a few comments. I used to run Linux, but am now using Windows 98SE, for a variety of reasons. Although I'm an old hand at FFF.net, I was unable to see the RT stuff because I didn't have the right "plug-in." The reason? In my experience, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, and I mean my computer. Without "flash" and numerous plug-ins, I have had zero, make that ZERO, problems with this computer. I avoid plug-ins because I need my computer for business purposes.

I have Windows Media Player v. 9, which works perfectly but does not run Quick-time movies, or anything with *.mov suffixes, like the RT Sessions. But, because I love Summer totally and everything she touches, I decided to fix all that. Accordingly, I got an upgrade to my venerable but totally reliable QuickTime version 2.1, which I generally use to look at *.jpgs.

I got version 7.0 from Apple, huge download (with that WORTHLESS iTunes, dc4bs), because Firefox indicated it would work with W98. But it doesn't. Huge waste of time. [I didn't know RealPlayer would run *.mov files or I would have got it, because it has worked for me in the past. For all I know, I can get a plug-in that lets me run "*.mov" files on Win. Media Player.] After a huge search I found version 5.0 of QuickTime, which I got from a university source, but the download was immediately upgraded to version 6.0. Version 6.0 of Apple Quick Time for Windows ran the River Tam Sessions with perfect sound, for those who wonder. I got the download as one big file from one of the sources mentioned in this forum.

The images are all too dark, with much of the detail not visible. My monitor is perfectly calibrated. Windows Media would have let me adjust the piss-poor rendering of the Sessions, but that was impossible.

My raving has a point. Whoever was in charge of this viral advertising campaign didn't organize it in a manner that would be accessible, so far as I can tell, to a whole lot of surfers who still use the very stable W98SE, and the very stable Windows Media Player version 9.0. Someone screwed up, so far as I can tell, and a lot of people were not permitted to see these Sessions because of the format in which they were presented. That hurt everybody.

End of rave.

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Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:52 AM

HAEKELDRACHE


Try the VLC-Player, if you got problems with .mov

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

After i installed it, i didn´t have any problems watching any Movie-Formats, except for Realmedia (.rm).

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:08 AM

RUXTON


Haekeldrache, I got and installed VLC Player, and it didn't work with my W98SE system. I could play the first part, with Joss stabbed, but when it went to the second part, I got a different window, poor video, and no sound.

To reiterate, for anyone's benefit who has trouble with the Sessions, Apple Quick Time Version 6 for Windows works perfectly to play the River Tam sessions.

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:12 AM

HAEKELDRACHE


@Ruxton: I´m sorry about that, it works great on my System.

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:37 PM

BAPTISMO


Imagine if they had run these as ads on TV. In that order.

Play each video for a month or so etc etc etc...who wouldnt be interested.

Kinda like the "What is the Matrix" campaign. Ptreyy crap movie in the end, but it worked.

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:32 PM

GAIJINFLYER


I'm steamed that they aren't on the DVD. Why would this not be a bonus feature?

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