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Male and Female Imponderables--The way of the wise

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Friday, August 4, 2006 11:45 AM

TRISTAN


Yet again, the struggle to understand the Imponderables of the human species continues...

Last thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=22778&m=354062#354062

Enjoy yourselves this weekend! I will try to post every now and then, but my costuming is going to take up most of my weekend.



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Friday, August 4, 2006 11:46 AM

MSG


first first first..I am first!




I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Friday, August 4, 2006 11:48 AM

TRISTAN


Oooh, pretty dancer!

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Friday, August 4, 2006 11:55 AM

PENGUIN


thread...needs...testosterone...


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Friday, August 4, 2006 12:46 PM

BSCPANTHERFAN


(lugs in large vat of Testosterone, giving gutteral grunts al la Tim Taylor)

Does that help?

Hey Tristan, if you get a sec and have one of those accounts where you can upload stuff, you have my permission to show off my bald pictures for the FFF.net community. I leave it to your discretion whether you put them here or in the Forsaken threads. Have fun finishing up the costuming.

So who is he?
He's my husband.
Well who in the damn galaxy ain't!

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Friday, August 4, 2006 12:47 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Ooooh I love pictures! Post them Tristan! Post Post Post.





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Friday, August 4, 2006 12:50 PM

PENGUIN


Quote:

Originally posted by BSCPantherfan:
(lugs in large vat of Testosterone, giving gutteral grunts al la Tim Taylor)

Does that help?




Much better!


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Friday, August 4, 2006 12:54 PM

TEACHDAIRE


Time for some contreversial opinions.


Love sucks.

Discuss...



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Friday, August 4, 2006 12:57 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Love doesn't suck. The things the people that we love is what sucks. And we still love them. That sucks more.



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Friday, August 4, 2006 1:01 PM

TEACHDAIRE


Nope. Don't see it myself.

Probably cos I don't love anyone. I gave up on those kinds of deep feelings. They onlyu cause pain.

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Friday, August 4, 2006 1:14 PM

BSCPANTHERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Ooooh I love pictures! Post them Tristan! Post Post Post.





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Just remember, I really do have hair. Just not in those pictures.


So who is he?
He's my husband.
Well who in the damn galaxy ain't!

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Friday, August 4, 2006 1:28 PM

DAYVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Penguin:
thread...needs...testosterone...



Penquin... I've been helping a friend repair a printing press today. I've busted two knuckles and strained my back... then after we got that sucker running like a top, we polished off a six pack and smoked a couple of cigars.... now we're thinking about hitting the topless joints...(ok not so much the last thing... just trying to sound all manly for ya)





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Friday, August 4, 2006 1:34 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION









Does that help Penguin?





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Friday, August 4, 2006 1:37 PM

TRAVELER


Pain. Of course there's pain. I didn't beleave it was true until it actually happened to me. A sledge hammer on my little toe would not have been noticed for the pain of love. But it passed. And there were good times. Bumping heads reaching for the remote at the same time. Walking into a flowershop on your own for the first time and not knowing names of the plants. I just pointed and said put that in there and some of those. Once I sent a complete arrangement of all white flowers, then I went all orange. Love is a verse traveled by country paths rather than supper highways. You stub your foot once in a while and then you feel soft grass between yor toes. Would do it again and again. Even if the pain got worse. I even sang to her. Poor Woman. I had it bad. Had to stop her from buying a stand for her microwave because I knew her sister got her one for her birthday. Did you ever try to stop a woman from buying something. Thank God it wasn't shoes.

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Friday, August 4, 2006 1:37 PM

SERYN


*edited, picture removed as although it couldn't be further from the truth, my brother actually looks like a drug dealer. Scary.

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Friday, August 4, 2006 1:39 PM

PENGUIN


Quote:

Originally posted by Dayve:
Penquin... I've been helping a friend repair a printing press today. I've busted two knuckles and strained my back... then after we got that sucker running like a top, we polished off a six pack and smoked a couple of cigars.... now we're thinking about hitting the topless joints...(ok not so much the last thing... just trying to sound all manly for ya)




Gee...thanks! lol

Just skip the beer, cigars, and strip joint and I'm right there with ya!


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Friday, August 4, 2006 1:41 PM

TEACHDAIRE


Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:
Pain. Of course there's pain. I didn't beleave it was true until it actually happened to me. A sledge hammer on my little toe would not have been noticed for the pain of love. But it passed. And there were good times. Bumping heads reaching for the remote at the same time. Walking into a flowershop on your own for the first time and not knowing names of the plants. I just pointed and said put that in there and some of those. Once I sent a complete arrangement of all white flowers, then I went all orange. Love is a verse traveled by country paths rather than supper highways. You stub your foot once in a while and then you feel soft grass between yor toes. Would do it again and again. Even if the pain got worse. I even sang to her. Poor Woman. I had it bad. Had to stop her from buying a stand for her microwave because I knew her sister got her one for her birthday. Did you ever try to stop a woman from buying something. Thank God it wasn't shoes.



Nah. Been hurt too damn much for one lifetime (I must have been really nasty in a past life). I'd rather pass on it in the future.



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Friday, August 4, 2006 1:41 PM

TEACHDAIRE


Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:
Pain. Of course there's pain. I didn't beleave it was true until it actually happened to me. A sledge hammer on my little toe would not have been noticed for the pain of love. But it passed. And there were good times. Bumping heads reaching for the remote at the same time. Walking into a flowershop on your own for the first time and not knowing names of the plants. I just pointed and said put that in there and some of those. Once I sent a complete arrangement of all white flowers, then I went all orange. Love is a verse traveled by country paths rather than supper highways. You stub your foot once in a while and then you feel soft grass between yor toes. Would do it again and again. Even if the pain got worse. I even sang to her. Poor Woman. I had it bad. Had to stop her from buying a stand for her microwave because I knew her sister got her one for her birthday. Did you ever try to stop a woman from buying something. Thank God it wasn't shoes.



Nah. Been hurt too damn much for one lifetime (I must have been really nasty in a past life). I'd rather pass on it in the future.



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Friday, August 4, 2006 2:02 PM

PENGUIN




Shake it FMF!!!




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Friday, August 4, 2006 5:19 PM

BSCPANTHERFAN


Yes, please, with the shaking and all.


I'll be in my bunk.

So who is he?
He's my husband.
Well who in the damn galaxy ain't!

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Friday, August 4, 2006 7:12 PM

WHITEFALL


Well, I'm gonna have to go with the 'tis better to have loved and lost than to never to have loved at all' cliche. Though I admit, at 17, I havent done any of that love business in the opposite gender sense.

But still, I am well aware by this point that, as Mal sayeth about spaceships, I say about life, love is what keeps us all flying. Because it aint rational, cause thats what we all want, cause rational is boring. Gotta have love. Love of projects, love of other folk, (platonic be damned, it's still love) even if you dont go for the courtship rituals, humans run on love. Or, oftentimes the lack thereof. It's basically our motivation for everything.

Ok, that was as sappy and opinionated as I get.

Discuss.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

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Saturday, August 5, 2006 2:52 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Love does not suck. Losing it is what sucks. Losing love sucks a lot. But losing love would not suck if the love itself sucked. It would not suck to lose something that sucks; what sucks is losing something wonderful.
(Do I have a record now for how many times one can say "sucks" in one paragraph?)
I also agree with Whitefall that love keeps us flying. If you love nothing, you have nothing to pursue; nothing to live for.
Quote:

Originally posted by Whitefall:
Rose, Ged, lol, who was it was talking about PST:psycho sexual tension?



Well...

Can one have sexual tension over the net? Well, obviously a bit, and yet you can't really tell if there's real chemistry until meeting someone in person. Can you?
I dunno; what do y'all think?

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Saturday, August 5, 2006 3:38 AM

SPACEANJL


PR, just drive to Texas already


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Saturday, August 5, 2006 3:41 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Hey, why do I have to do all the driving? That's a hell of a trip for someone making a measly $7.50 an hour.
Stupid job.

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Saturday, August 5, 2006 3:53 AM

SPACEANJL


So...make him drive then. Or meet halfway. (That would be New Mexico, right? My US geography is a bit hazy...) Mebbe there are Browncoats could offer you halfway houses.

A Firefly roadtrip.


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Saturday, August 5, 2006 4:09 AM

ODDSBODSKINS


oooh they can take a laptop and the firefly boxset, and have the soundtrack on the CD player, a THEMED roadtrip xD


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Saturday, August 5, 2006 4:57 AM

TRISTAN


Morning, all! Just here for a bit...need a break from sewing.

BSC, I will get those pictures up soon.

Love itself does not suck. Unrequited love, however, is the worst thing in the world. Not sure if that is what you are going through right now, but if it is, you have my understanding.

Ok, back to breakfast, then sewing once again. I will probably be back sometime today.

PR, I think meeting halfway would be good!

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Saturday, August 5, 2006 5:31 AM

WHITEFALL


I was just teasing.

Morning all. Are we pondering something? If so, I missed it.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

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Saturday, August 5, 2006 6:47 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Actually might be right on the border of Texas, or somewhere in the panhandle of Oklahoma. New Mexico is right next to Texas.
Actually, maybe in the corner of NM...
I don't know, I'd have to see how far it was from Loveland to Dallas.
Firefly road trip! That would be shiny! (Please hire me, Norlarco, please hire me, please!)

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Saturday, August 5, 2006 7:43 AM

BSCPANTHERFAN


I, too, have done the unrequited bit. I pined over this for several years. I would ask her out every once in a while, and just when I was ready to leave it and move on, she would call me, we would go out, and I would be back in my holding pattern. I was young and naive, and I really hate her now, not for using me for free food, concert tickets, etc., but for wasting time that I could have spent with someone who cared about me. That is time I won't get back, and I hope that kharma kicks her in the head for it.

Wow, I feel better now.

So who is he?
He's my husband.
Well who in the damn galaxy ain't!

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Saturday, August 5, 2006 8:48 AM

WHITEFALL


Dang BSC, that's awful. Not for anything direct, like you said, but that's... all I can say is, it's sad. People should know themselves better than that, imo.

Stupid love, has to be so hit n' miss.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

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Saturday, August 5, 2006 1:28 PM

SERYN


I have to disagree with some of you. On occaision, love does indeed suck, and suck big time.

I did spend ten minutes typing out the reasons that i think love is not all that great, but i read it back, it was overlong, whiny sounding and ultimetly pointless.

basically, in past relationships i've been mistreated, ignored, used and had my head well and truly messed with, but i'd rather cope with them than with love.
And as for having loved and lost - i'm sure it works for grand storybook romances, but not real life, better to not know what your missing unless you've a chance to experience a little of the good along with the bad. And how often does that happen?

so you can have song lyrics instead.

'Sex and love are not a game,
a game is something you can win,
maybe something kind of fun,
love is just a bloodsport.'

(very funky song, by the sneakerpimps - wasn't exactly what i was trying to say, but it was the only quote i could remember off the top of my head!)

I sound very vitriolic, but i have sore seized up shoulders from sewing - i'd almost agree to a neck rub they're that sore, so its making me grumpy.

grrr!


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Saturday, August 5, 2006 2:21 PM

TEACHDAIRE


If you're going to get into song lyrics, here's a good idea of what I'm on about...

Your cruel device
Your blood, like ice
One look could kill
My pain, your thrill

I want to love you but I better not touch (Don't touch)
I want to hold you but my senses tell me to stop
I want to kiss you but I want it too much (Too much)
I want to taste you but your lips are venomous poison
You're poison running through my veins
You're poison, I don't want to break these chains



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Saturday, August 5, 2006 2:41 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Again, just dropping in. Gonna try and catch up in a sec.



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Saturday, August 5, 2006 2:48 PM

SERYN


hello NVG! I think we were basically dicussing love - does it suck or is it all you need?

and is it better to have loved and lost?

basically, a nice little positive discussion on that fabulous emotion that more often than not makes you feel like some psycho five year old has ripped out your heart thrown it in the biggest muddiest puddle it could find then taken great delight in jumping up and down on it for all its worth.

that little outburst should give you some small indication of which side of the debate i'm on.

and more recentlyly i think its developing on to a 'find the most appropriate song lyrics you can' competition.

Have fun dearie!


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Saturday, August 5, 2006 3:00 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Love sucks only if you let it. I guess.
Most of the negative things were from women who probably didn't care a whole lot anyways so it really doesn't hurt much here down the road.

Appropriate song lyrics.

I try to make you love me
You try to find a spark
But the falme that burned
Has somehow turned
To smoke rings in the dark

-Gary Allan


Love y'all. 'Night.



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Saturday, August 5, 2006 4:18 PM

TRISTAN


TD, great choice of lyrics to sum up your philosophy. I am also a fan of Alice Cooper.

Just popping back in to say hello. 2nd Browncoat almost finished...wife's skirt-done...time for dinner.


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Saturday, August 5, 2006 6:07 PM

ODDSBODSKINS


Well, before i start, just to say, apologies to all, this is likely to be an unwarranted rant, and i really don't know any of you well enough to feel justified in imposing so. However, what i'm really after is an outside, unbiased opinion, and you all seem more then capable of intelligent, calm opinions, so hopefully it's the right crowd. So to speak.

So, the story runs: i've been at a club with some mates, as they're closing up and asking people to leave, a lass catches my arm and asks me to take her to bed, straight up. my automatic response is to say that that's very flattering, but she was really quite drunk and i would feel i was taking advantage (some scene setting here, i'm a lonely guy, in spite of my high opinion of my looks and persona, i've been single and looking for someone to share my life with for the last two years, not to mention, bordering on clinically sexually frustrated at this juncture) regardless, she kinda latched on, and said she felt terribly guilty since I'd said that, and a conversation caried on in this theme, she was saying she really just wanted to meet someone on her wavelength, I was bantering as per, me being me. The impression i got as that she was really quite lonely, and was looking for a way out of that more then anything else. So I was, I admit, tempted, so to speak. However, she stopped on the way out of the club to speak to a friend, i wandered on, my intention was to wait just outside, then stroll over and ask if she was still interested in having that wavelength tuesday, with champagne and cake. Was about to do just this when the mates I was with called me over, made my excuses and wandered after her, but she had latched onto another bloke and before I could catch up they'd run off a fair distance.

my querie's, the points i'm interested in opinions on, are A: in the first place, was i honourable or cowardly? At the end of the day she was determined and forthright in what she was after, and she seemed exactly my type (aside from being very drunk, she was polite, well-spoken and well dressed, beside the obvious, she didn't seem slutty in the slightest, and she gave the impression of being free-spirited and opinionated) so, was i being honourable, or was i chickening out of what could have been a good thing for both myself and her.

and secondly, by backing down, and not following to still ask if she was interested in that tuesday. was i abandoning her to whatever may be (probably nothing worse then crap drunken sex and an awkward morning after, but still) or was i, as i'm inclined to believe, doing no more then exemplifying the cowardice i'm coming more and more to see in myself.


anyway, a long-winded ramble which only mentions about half of what's meandering through my head, but all i feel like putting into typ. opinions would be welcome, because i really could use a point of view which is unbiased.


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Saturday, August 5, 2006 6:15 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Sorry, I can't be very unbiased on the subject of acting like a drunken slut; I think it's disgusting. I think you were quite honorable to say you didn't want to take advantage, smart to consider asking for something a little more pleasant, and lucky that you didn't end up trying to date a drunken slut. Just because she didn't seem slutty, she acted completely slutty. And that's terrible. Maybe you should have asked if she was interested in a wavelength a little later, but I doubt she would have said yes, or remembered she said yes, or given you a real phone number or whatever else. I feel your frustration, but I've never thought a cheap and trite roll in the hay was a way to solve anything. It would probably be more likely to increase the actual underlying frustration than actually help anything.
I think you did the right thing, and she obviously didn't care that you were acting like you gave a damn. That's her being stupid, not you.

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Saturday, August 5, 2006 6:22 PM

ODDSBODSKINS


except that it was me who wandered on without saying a word, because of my fondess for the appropriate dramatic moment, i'm a sucker for trying to go with that kinda thing.

as for being a drunken slut, i honestly feel she was more lonely then anything else, because right now that's a frustration i can really identify with.

sorry, i asked for opinions and here i'm slating them, just trying to get a little more exposition (selfish i know, c'est la vie)


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Saturday, August 5, 2006 9:18 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Can I just say that you are probably right about her being lonely and trying to fill her need to be close to someone by confusing sex with emotional closeness. Having said that you absolutely did the honourable thing and I love you all the more for it!

The fact that you seemed to start to connect and that led you to consider a more sober and appropriate opportunity to get to know one another says a whole lot about you! What an awesome guy you are! The fact that 2 seconds later she was off with someone else says how determined she was to have sex, which shows little self-esteem, and little self-control, and potentially (since you say she just spoke with some of her friends just before disappearing into the gloom with 'something-in-trousers') very easily influenced by peer-group pressure to follow through on her initial intention, I think you were well out of it. Her friends at this stage should have acted as friends and taken her home and looked after her best interests... not you!

I have made the mistake (way back in my bohemian-drama-student-who-had-a great-body-days... as I remember it) of having a one-night-stand. I say mistake because although I believe in embracing your experiences and learning from them, it is not something I have ever been tempted to repeat as it left me more frustrated and lacking in self-esteem than I could ever have imagined... and I had, at least, met the guy before and spent the entire evening with him before going back to his place.

It is insane that there are so many awesome guys like you looking for wonderful women, and vice versa - believe me... my friends and I would all be thrilled to meet someone like youself in the right time, geographic location, chronological experience and emotional circumstances (I suspect you're another of the way too young for me brigade...) - but that is the way it is when you really know yourself, who you are and what you want from life and love! When you do find that you have someone in your life you will know it was worth the wait! (or so they tell me!)

(Hmmmm... was that a ramble or a rant?)

What I want to say is DO NOT regret your actions. You are both honourable and romantic and there are no end of lovely, genuine women who will LOVE that - don't waste your experiences on the 'desperate and dateless'. Getting involved with someone that needy and insecure would probably have led to something messy, heartbreaking and difficult to walk away from for a genuine guy like yourself!

All power to you Oddbodkins!! Much love from the other side of the world - 'New Melbourne' - Magdalena x x x

P.S. If you ever start reading my posts on 'BDH fantasy's which I (embarassingly) share from time to time, you'll know that being clinically sexually frustrated is not limited to good looking men like yoursef! It's much better to be that (CSF) than a drunken slut or the person who takes advantage of one though! Mwaaah - Magda x x

"I love my Captain!"




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Saturday, August 5, 2006 9:26 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Magdalena states my opinion better than I do sometimes

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Saturday, August 5, 2006 9:30 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


OK - spookiness again!! I just said that to someone about your post the other day. We were discussing my latest fascination with Mary Magdalene and I mentioned your wonderful sense of empowerment and how you'd explained the 'godess' element of Mary's pull on my life far better than I could have!!

I really love posting when you're around too!!

Mwaaah - Magda x x x

"I love my Captain!"




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Saturday, August 5, 2006 9:48 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by magdalena:
OK - spookiness again!! I just said that to someone about your post the other day. We were discussing my latest fascination with Mary Magdalene and I mentioned your wonderful sense of empowerment and how you'd explained the 'godess' element of Mary's pull on my life far better than I could have!!


Awwwwww, shiny!

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Saturday, August 5, 2006 9:50 PM

WHITEFALL


Well, odds, I'd say you did the right thing, you dont deserve to get involved in something like that, and it's good of you to avoid the temptation for the seconds she gave ya before changing targets. Crazy.

Ok, it's late at night, and I'm gonna tell you all a story, cause like odds said, i'm feeling selfish.

Me and parties. Now that i've found folk I like to spend time with, and I get the impression they like having me around (not to mention people i've never met giving me the benefit of the doubt and liking me even though i've never met them), I really really enjoy parties. And then I leave, and I have this, the post-party slump. Maybe it was just this party which consisted of two couples (of ladies i love dearly and gents almost as much) to third wheel on, and some other lady folk i know who... urgh, they make me laugh, they're so wonderful, but they always seem awkward to me, and then some folk i just met. And dangit, I love them all, (screw not know what love is n all that jazz) it just makes me happy to spend time with them all, and it's so great, then I leave, and everything sorta sucks after. Urgh.

So, on the love them all thing, hey I just read Siddhartha, i'm in that mode, but still, they all dont mind me being there, and we get along, and it's great, and yet I either feel empty after or just get ahead and feel empty during. I hate being a teen.

But there's some love, though I'd call it unrequited, love is good.

And Rose, Magdalena, you guys.... well, , you guys are so cool.

This has been a late night rambling (TM), disregard at your own disgression.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

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Saturday, August 5, 2006 10:07 PM

TRAVELER


Oddsbodskins:

Phoenixrose and Magdalena are right on the money.
There was a reason that night ended that way.
Because inside you knew the right thing to do and did it. You may have doubts but your actions and your instincts were correct. You let her go and that was the correct thing to do.

A won't judge if she was a slut or not.

But drunk is drunk. And she was not running on all cylinders.

A friend of mine picked up a drunk woman in a bar and before he got her home she passed out.

He had to search her purse to find out where she lived and had to carry to her door.

Not fun.

Even if the woman you met made it through the night she probably would have woke up the next day and asked "Who the hell are you?"

So your instincts took you in the right direction. You just didn't wonder off by chance.
You were doing the proper thing.

And to continue this thread I'll just repeat myself and say love is worth it. Breaking up hurts. But that is because the real thing is so good.






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Saturday, August 5, 2006 10:35 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Quote:

Originally posted in part by Whitefall:
And Rose, Magdalena, you guys.... well, , you guys are so cool.



Awww... Thank you Whitefall! The feeling is mutual! I love this community! You guys are all like family to me and who can you turn to if not your family! Never appologise for sharing and asking for opinions and support!

I actually know what you mean as I can get that "I was looking forward to this night, the fun, the belonging, the potential to meet new people... and now I'm home, alone... again...*sigh*... maybe a little tipsy, maybe not... But, anyway.... alone"

It's not just the alone factor - it's the sense that everyone else seems to fall into relationships easily, but there doesn't seem to be anyone in the 'verse that I'm even remotely interested in who hasn't either a)already been taken (and once I see a ring on that finger I don't go anywhere near there!!) b)already turned me down when I asked them out on a date, c) moving to a 3rd world country to devote himself to orphans (yes - this actually happened!) or d) gay or way too young or way too old, or way too desperate or in a coma... (OK I haven't fallen for anyone in a coma lately... but you get the bleakness idea!)

Not that I'm saying things are this desperate for you at all - just that it is not odd. We look forward to the weekend and it's ensuing parties all week and suddenly they're over - and you are not any further along in your life or even in your dreams than you secretly, deep, deep down hoped you might be and there's that Monday morning again and the promise of 5 more days of work, routine, meetings and non-social commitments to be met...

I worked in the theatre for most of my first 28 years of life, and I often felt a sense of grief after a play ended. We met, rehearsed, drank wine, had parties, performed, got changed in communal dressing rooms, met one another's significant others... basicly got as close as one platonically can in the space of a few weeks - then nada... zip... nothing.

We'd all absorb ourselves with the next audition, rehearsal, production social scene and not have time to keep in touch until the next time we worked together. It took me a long time to get used to this and get my head around the roller-coaster! What I'm saying is - I understand, and it's not unusual - you are certainly not alone in this sensation. There are millions of people going home from parties each night and feeling something similar! You only need to worry if you are going home with a SO and still feeling let down...

Now that would be much worse!!

"I love my Captain!"




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Sunday, August 6, 2006 2:08 AM

ODDSBODSKINS


hehe, thanks for the words bodies, s'nice to know i was being all of the above, whether i knew it myself or not

Aye, got to agree with magdalena whitefall, the let-down you feel after parties and weekends is perfectly natural, because all your secret hopes'n'dreams concerning them and what may/may not happen haven't come to pass. It's something you come to terms with and get used to, and given a few years it even stops bothering you (see me? still young, not so bothered on that score these days, it comes to pass ^^ ) well, okay maybe in my case that's just dour acceptance that it's not worth worrying over, so maybe better just play life by ear and take parties for what they are, good time to have a laugh with your mates (get wretchedly drunk, make a great many wildly innapropriate jokes, insult the bouncer by accident and find yourself looking for another club/water and a kebab at four in the morning, not that i'd know about any of that, being the honest, upstanding wholesome guy i am) but yeah, that stops stinging in fairly short order, and all is well in the 'verse again ^^


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Sunday, August 6, 2006 4:28 AM

SMARTBUTDUMBBLONDE


Hey all, I just got back from sleeping at my friends after the last ever Munkyfest, and I am so tired, but it was awesome!! I just wrote about it in my log, so go check it out. I missed out the bad bits though.

Rugbug: I was on cafepress! I decided on the Curse.. one and the herring one, as I figured out that due to exchange rates at the moment, they only costed £10 each, so I was like what the hell! I would have come back on, but I am beginning to think that the stars and plants have to be perfectly aligned for me to get on this darned site!

Names: I like mine fine, and I don't have a middle name, but if i could pick one, I would choose Lena, after my Italian Grandmother, I love that name. People always try to call me Katie, no matter how many times I tell them: ITS KATE!!!, and I hate that. There was a girl in primary school called Katie who was always nasty to me, so, its not good.

Whitefall, what is your first name? because I keep wanting to call you Steve.

Hamsters. I hate hamsters, they are so creepy, and a hamster bit me once. I have had baaad experiences with hamsters. I kind of accindentally killed a friends hamster when I was 7, and she never found out it was my fault, so, lets not go there!

I tells ya, lack of love is what sucks. twas good last night thou, the guy, Matt, I worte about in by log was flirting with me, which was nice because even if he was 20, he was really sweet and funny. Also, I was waiting for my friend to come out of the portaloo, and this guy, must have been about 25, 26 came up to me, all smooth, and goes: soo, how old are you then?
Me: 16 (Thats a lie, not for another 2 months)
Guy: *look of shock and embarrassment* No way!
and beats a hasty retreat. that was funny.

Odds: you did the right thing and acted like the perfect gentlemen. Honourable is good. Like (was it PR or Magdalena?) said, clearly all she wanted was to get into someones pants, and if you ask me, then that is most definatley slutty.

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Sunday, August 6, 2006 4:36 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Hi 'Smart Blonde'

Welcome home - I'm just checking in before I go to bed cox I start work in a few hours and I'm already sleep deprived

Sounds like the fest you went to was well worth it... I LOL when you said that the guy beat a hasty retreat at the '16' thing!!

Enjoy your posting! 'night - Magda x x x

"I love my Captain!"




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