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Your #1 and 2 ALL time Hated Movies?

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:24 PM

KAYNA

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I didn't know there were four Urban Legend movies. I enjoyed the first one (but then I haven't seen it in about five years) and I knew there was a sequel but I never saw it.

As to the fourth Crow movie, SciFi has shown that thing a lot lately. I watched most of it one day out of boredom. The sad thin about it is that there is actually some decent acting going on. Edward Furlong vs David Boreanaz, come on. Still, it was a really bad movie. You are right about that.

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:00 PM

HURLEY


Definatley have to agree about Event Horizon. The movie wanted to be Hellraiser and Aliens combined but failed miserably.

Battlefield Earth - So bad

EraserHead - I've never made it past the first seven minutes

Lost Highway - has to be the single worst movie of all time. Bill Pullman must have paid someone for his SAG card.

Moulon Rouge - Painful stayed in theater because I was so shocked at how bad it was, I thought I must be having a stroke and halucinating from lack of oxygen

Independence Day - Bill Pullman again nuff said.

The SciFi Channel's remake of Dune - butchered the books completely.


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Thursday, May 17, 2007 6:32 AM

SPACEMANSPIFF76


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff76:
when i see previews or clips or whatnot, i decide if i want to see the film. so ive manage to avoid seeing movies i hate. heres what i do hate about films though. i watch a lot of medieval period films, braveheart, king arthur and the like. the one thing that really honks me off that every time someone pulls a sword, it goes "shing". go get a sword a pull it, it wont do that, and it bothers me to no end when i hear that sound on a film because i know its so contrived, a sound effect invented by a bored foley.



Doesn't depend on the sheath?



a lot of iron age swords had metal sheaths. however, most of your medieval sheaths are wood or leather. pull a metal blade out it and its pretty close to silent. some wood scabbards even had raw wool inside to keep the blade clean. pull a sword out of that and you cant hear anything at all.

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Thursday, May 17, 2007 6:35 AM

SPACEMANSPIFF76


daredevil was a decent movie but what made it worth watching was jennifer garner in tight leather strappy things. shes hot.

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Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:06 AM

CANTER


Planet of the Apes was, uhm....bad.

That lady chimp looked like Janet Jackson and I kept waiting for her to start wiggling her neck around.



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Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:25 AM

TURQUOISEBOAT


#1
Be Cool

#2
Sahara


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Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:34 AM

CHRISTHECYNIC


Quote:

Originally posted by Hurley:
The SciFi Channel's remake of Dune - butchered the books completely.


I'm not defending the Dune mini series, if you think it's hate worthy I won't change that, but I think there's something wrong with what you said.

That is if the problem you have with SciFi Channel's Dune mini series is only what you said (that it butchered the books) then surely David Lynch's 1984 version of Dune is worse because it diverges from the books even more, completely changing some things in utterly unfounded ways and rewriting the ending.

I mean if the only thing you have against it is that it butchered the books shouldn't you hate the 1984 version (which, incidentally, I love) much more?

Again, I'm not trying to make you not hate the miniseries, it's just that what you said doesn't make sense (to me.)

(It should be pointed out that there are two things I know of where the movie was closer than the miniseries, one was Paul's third name, the miniseries producers thought, "Usul," was one name too many. The second is the placement of the, "For the father nothing," scene.)

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Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:00 PM

CONSTANCE


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Originally posted by Misstressahara:
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I don't understand why people like this film, men I can it's got all the action and naked chicks, but many women like this piece of fey-yoo and I can't understand it. One of the worst pictures to come out in the last 5 years that from beggining to end show women as sexual objects to be exploited and abused, not to mention that pedophile getting away with torturing and killing other young girls while a cop is forced into admitting he did it to save one of the victims, and there's one scene where Bruce Willis pulls a guys **** off, well again it took a lot to keep my popcorn down. And now there's talk of a sequel? So how many women and children are going to be abused in this?




Im one of the women that loved sin city, and not only because it was visually stunning. The women in this movie might not be where they wanted to be, and they did get abused and have to sell their bodies to survive. But I really found the whores in the movie rather though. They had fought for their independence from pimps and they really wanted to have control of their business. The world in which Sin City takes place is a fascist one and one that is even further from perfect that the one we in the western world live in now. Women under that rule would have had to fight pretty hard for any kind of independence. The whores in Sin City hadn't much of a carrier choice, like many of the whores now, but they fought for what little they could get. Sin City represents a world where everyones gotta take care of one self, and that aint a pretty world. It is a nightmare vision of what our own reality could have been. I like to call myself a feminist and I thought that the women in sin city, or most of them, fought as hard as they could for whatever they could get. I loved the film, and found that I could both understand and sympathize with most female characters in that fictional universe.

If men only like it because of Jessica Alba stripping I feel bad for them. Thees more that men can get out of it than pretty girls.


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Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:00 PM

SAFEAT2ND


Quote:

Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Then there's the second one I was stupid enough to see with anoher brother that again was gratuitous, nauseating and actually very demmeaning and negative towards women. Sin City. I don't understand why people like this film, men I can it's got all the action and naked chicks, but many women like this piece of fey-yoo and I can't understand it. One of the worst pictures to come out in the last 5 years that from beggining to end show women as sexual objects to be exploited and abused, not to mention that pedophile getting away with torturing and killing other young girls while a cop is forced into admitting he did it to save one of the victims, and there's one scene where Bruce Willis pulls a guys **** off, well again it took a lot to keep my popcorn down. And now there's talk of a sequel? So how many women and children are going to be abused in this?

I think there can't be any worse films that makes me physically ill (even Pulp Fiction had some cleverness to it's violence) And though many will find this strange I'd be willing to sit through Star Wars 1, 2, and 3, then watch these two horrible movies.


I totally agree. And I'm a fan of some pretty gory movies like American Werewolf in London, Underworld and a big Conan the Barbarian fan.

Quote:

Originally posted by Constance:
Im one of the women that loved sin city, and not only because it was visually stunning. The women in this movie might not be where they wanted to be, and they did get abused and have to sell their bodies to survive. But I really found the whores in the movie rather though. They had fought for their independence from pimps and they really wanted to have control of their business. The world in which Sin City takes place is a fascist one and one that is even further from perfect that the one we in the western world live in now. Women under that rule would have had to fight pretty hard for any kind of independence. The whores in Sin City hadn't much of a carrier choice, like many of the whores now, but they fought for what little they could get. Sin City represents a world where everyones gotta take care of one self, and that aint a pretty world. It is a nightmare vision of what our own reality could have been. I like to call myself a feminist and I thought that the women in sin city, or most of them, fought as hard as they could for whatever they could get. I loved the film, and found that I could both understand and sympathize with most female characters in that fictional universe.

If men only like it because of Jessica Alba stripping I feel bad for them. Thees more that men can get out of it than pretty girls.



Visually stunning? Well I suppose, but then again one could argue that horrific real life car crashes and public executions are visually stunning too.

And I'll agree that a lot may like it solely based on Jessica Alba's performance, and while I do find her rather easy on the eyes, even promises of her naked in an un-cut version couldn't make me watch it again. Maybe one has to be a fan of the comic to enjoy it.

To each their own, I suppose. Personnally I rank Sin City (and I think rank is the appropriate word) as slightly worse than anything Uwe Boll has or will produce.

Quote:

Originally posted by Kayna:
Any movie that is considered a "Ben Stiller" movie
I cannot stand that man and I do not think he is funny. I may watch the occasional movie with Ben Stiller in it but not if it is "his" film.


I second that! I had almost forgotten about him. Like nails on a chaulk board. *shudder* Throw in anything with Wil Ferrel too. People keep telling me he's funny, I just don't see it... Now Steve Carell, he's FUNNY!

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Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:12 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by kaneman:

There must be two Solaris movies with George clooney, because the one I watched was phenomenal.........

THANK YOU!!!

Chrisisall



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Thursday, May 17, 2007 2:19 PM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by kaneman:
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by kaneman:

There must be two Solaris movies with George clooney, because the one I watched was phenomenal.........

THANK YOU!!!

Chrisisall



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Feel the love....

Let's turn this world upside down Chrisisall

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Thursday, May 17, 2007 2:52 PM

HURLEY


Well both adaptations diverge from the books but the SciFi mini series really watered down the feel of the books. The thing Frank Herbert really emphasized in the Dune Series (and a lot of his other books) was man adapting to his environment. The desert environment in the books was an formidable adversary that would kill within a few hours of exposure. Note the obvious contrast between the water of the Attreides home world and the desert planet Arakis. This environment and having to adapt to it is why the Freeman were such a force to contend with. The BeneGesseret (I know I'm misspelling here) Fear is the Mind Killer can be seen as a theme for the entire book. Man placed in the harshest environment possible and adapts to become more. Paul awakens in this arena. The entire culture of the Freeman centered around fighting off the very elements of the planet. In the mini series, the feel of the desert was like someone just stepped off the highway somewhere in New Mexico and didn't have a sports bottle handy.

Having a stillsuit in the desert was paramount to survival in the books and the movie. Water was life. The hideouts of the freman had sealed hatches to keep the moisture from evaporating from the harsh conditions outside. In the mini series none. They just wanted to keep the wind out.
In other words the mini series left out one of the biggest and meanest characters in the Books and the '84 Movie: the Planet itself. Without that relentless adversary full force pressing the characters, the Mini Series had no real teeth.

"I mean if the only thing you have against it is that it butchered the books shouldn't you hate the 1984 version (which, incidentally, I love) much more?"

Well the 1984 version I loved as well. I had read up to God Emperor of Dune by that time, and I couldn't wait to see the movie. I was dissapointed that so much was left on the cutting room floor but it still captured the feel of the books. It felt like a foreign world and culture that I was visiting. It felt as though thousands of years had passed. There were large swaths of the novel skipped over and Gene Hackman's narration just didn't satisfy, but I still loved it. I wish the movie had delved into the Bene Gessurit, Duncan Idaho and Gurnet Halleck's characters more. They were much more important in the books especially Duncan in the later books. But Dune is a pretty hard story to try to sum up in one movie and cutting an hour or more out of it didn't really help.

From the very first page of the novel you feel emersed in the world he creates. Frank Herbert was very good at that. The Movie did that for me as well. Lynch also used several of the designs Herbert had drawn for the costumes and sets. If you get a copy of the book EYE (might be Frank Herbert's Eye, I haven't looked through it for years) you can see a lot of the sketches Herbert had drawn for the books. Lynch kept the feel of those. Herbert was still alive then so maybe he had some input in the set design/flavor of the film. The mini series is like the producers only read the cliffnotes version, they heard desert planet and thought of the southwestern US. The desert just became a backdrop.

In both the Movie and Mini Series though one thing that still drives me nuts is when they showed the Freman eyes. Melange made the whites of the eyes turn blue but they never were supposed to glow blue! Limits of special effects I know but it still aggrivated me that it wasn't corrected in the mini series version.



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Thursday, May 17, 2007 3:05 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by RiveR6213:

I liked Rambo 1, but the rest of the movies were pretty bad.



Agree; and Rambo three was such a cartoon, it made Rambo two look like a documentary.

My war's over Chrisisall

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Friday, May 18, 2007 6:17 PM

RIVER6213


Speaking of really bad movies...where on the net could I purchase and download Rocky III?

-River

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Friday, May 18, 2007 7:17 PM

SHIMAUMA


Alexander *crap* (movie should have a warning)

Flags of Our Fathers *depressing crap*

Fan of battle that I am, those two movies disappointed me the most.



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Friday, May 18, 2007 7:46 PM

ORPHEUS


#2: Breathless. I know, it's totally a film-student-y answer, but I just absolutely hate everything about that movie. I hated it the first time they made us watch it, and I hated it even more the 4th time they made us watch it.

#1: Underworld. Most boring action movie I've ever seen in my life. "Like The Matrix, but better." Yeah, right.

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Friday, May 18, 2007 7:51 PM

ORPHEUS


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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
Speaking of really bad movies...where on the net could I purchase and download Rocky III?

-River



I checked iTunes. They've got Rocky II (and ONLY Rocky II). Don't know much else about downloading movies.

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 2:23 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


Quote:

Originally posted by Hurley:
Gene Hackman's narration just didn't satisfy,


Ummmm, don't you mean Virginia Madsen?

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 3:17 AM

EVILDINOSAUR


well there's 2 movies that i can remember coming out of saying "wtf, i want those hours of my life back" and those were...

1. War of the Worlds

2. X3

and then also one i just refuse to see, napoleon dynamite, i just won't do it.

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 3:40 AM

SWEETSERENDIPITY


Oh God! I'd totally blacked Event Horizon from my mind. I agree, it made my stomach turn. And not much does that.

I must confess though, I loved Sahara and Battlefield Earth. I've read all the Clive Cussler books, and yes there were major changes, but I think they did a good job with it ( apart from the budget, and the back and forth lawsuits). Battlefield, haven't read the book but I thought it was enjoyable.

I have no trouble separating book from the movie based on said book. Makes things a lot easier to enjoy.

Deb



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Saturday, May 19, 2007 3:44 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


BlairWitch and HitchHikers,
two very bad movies

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 4:47 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by reginaroadie:
To my entire generation, that's a movie that has so much magic and power.


Wrong.

I'm not going to say I hate it, because I don't, but I don't understand what the big, screaming deal is. I used to have a group of friends who would quote it and Finding Nemo like they were the funniest and most brilliant things ever, and when I finally watched them I was like "That's it?" And then I saw Corpse Bride in the theater and kind of had the same reaction. Tim Burton makes very visually interesting films, but the stories don't really touch me.

Also, I never saw Pulp Fiction and have no plans to. Something tells me that I'll have a similar reaction after all the over-hype about it.

Also have to say I had that reaction to Fight Club.

And Moulin Rouge.

A lot of the movies named here I haven't seen, because I just don't watch that many movies. Because most of them kind of suck.

I enjoyed Sin City, though. Haven't read the comics, but the cinematography was wonderful and I thought the characters were interesting. There was a lot of violence and abuse, yeah, but there was a lot of justice too, and some wonderful interactions and powerful emotions. I can see why a lot of people wouldn't really see past all the gore, though; there was a lot of it and some people just don't like that.


Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 5:07 AM

ZZETTA13


Just voicing my opinion here but I do think it's sad whenever movie or television entertainment has to rely on “word of mouth” advertising to generate interest in the public. Guess that’s the way it goes though. It’s free and usually reliable.

In the case of the FF fanship “word of mouth” didn’t get out quick enough or reach far enough. That’s sad because I know the browncoats that were there from the beginning made an extreme effort.

I usually don’t hate movies, I’m just disappointed if they aren’t what I’d thought they’d be. If word of mouth doesn’t reach me or if it does and it’s mostly negative I just don’t go see the movie or watch the tv show.

Right off the top of my head and an extreme disappointment for me was Starship Troopers 2. Like I’ve said I should have known better but I did enjoy the first one although it wasn’t a lot of folks cup of tea. Just how I see it.

Z

Edit: The movie Sin City I did like although I was a bit taken back when I realized Frodo Baggins enjoyed munching down on people when he’d run out of elfin bread :)

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 12:53 PM

HURLEY


Quote:

Originally posted by cljohnston108:
Quote:

Originally posted by Hurley:
Gene Hackman's narration just didn't satisfy,


Ummmm, don't you mean Virginia Madsen?



Actually I was referring to the extended version which had a male narrator. Yes Virginia Madsen narrated the 84 film release but in later rereleases other things are added andf the Princess's narration is dropped. The voice sounds like Gene Hackman to my ear but some claim it was Frank Herbert himself. But since even David Lynch refused to put his name on the extended version (released for TV) then maybe if the voice was Gene's he removed his name from it as well.

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 1:13 PM

SLOWHAND


I hated all 3 Matrix movies. I watched them once and didn't get them. Someone talked me into watching them again, so I did. I gave them an honest shot. I rented all three and I sat at home by myself so I would have no distractions and I watched all three back to back. Guess what. I still don't get them. Also, when I asked my buddy, who is a big Matrix fan, to explain them, she couldn't! How am I supposed to get the movies when people that are actual fans of them don't even understand them!?!? Hated them.

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 1:14 PM

MOHRSTOUTBEARD


Without mentioning anyone specifically, I will just say this: some of you have really, astoundingly horrible taste in movies.

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 1:34 PM

CLJOHNSTON108


Quote:

Originally posted by Hurley:
Actually I was referring to the extended version which had a male narrator. Yes Virginia Madsen narrated the 84 film release but in later rereleases other things are added andf the Princess's narration is dropped. The voice sounds like Gene Hackman to my ear but some claim it was Frank Herbert himself. But since even David Lynch refused to put his name on the extended version (released for TV) then maybe if the voice was Gene's he removed his name from it as well.


I only saw it the one time in the theater.
Didn't realize there were all these other versions!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_%28film%29

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 1:46 PM

RIVERDANCER


Quote:

Originally posted by MohrStoutbeard:
Without mentioning anyone specifically, I will just say this: some of you have really, astoundingly horrible taste in movies.


How very friendly of you. Don't mention movies, don't mention reasons, just come in with a 'wow you have horrible taste' statement that could be directed at anyone or anything and leave it at that. Also really adds to the discussion.

I have to second the vote for Napolean Dynamite (or third or fourth it or whatever. I lost track of how many people have the good sense to wish for their time back on that one) and also, I think, Phantom Menace. Absolutely no redeeming quality inthat movie, and it ruined the entire Star Wars franchise for me, which is sad.

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 1:50 PM

MOHRSTOUTBEARD


Quote:

Originally posted by RiverDancer:
How very friendly of you. Don't mention movies, don't mention reasons, just come in with a 'wow you have horrible taste' statement that could be directed at anyone or anything and leave it at that. Also really adds to the discussion.



I certainly thought it was friendlier than naming names. I didn't want to argue, I just wanted to plant the seed of self-doubt in people's heads, hopefully causing them to wonder if perhaps they should take better stock of their cinematic intake.

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 2:07 PM

CLJOHNSTON108


Quote:

Originally posted by Slowhand:
I hated all 3 Matrix movies. I watched them once and didn't get them. Someone talked me into watching them again, so I did. I gave them an honest shot. I rented all three and I sat at home by myself so I would have no distractions and I watched all three back to back. Guess what. I still don't get them. Also, when I asked my buddy, who is a big Matrix fan, to explain them, she couldn't! How am I supposed to get the movies when people that are actual fans of them don't even understand them!?!? Hated them.


I think I'm the only one here who actually loved all three of 'em!
I live four blocks away from Grauman's Chinese, and I was first in line for the original.

Showed up an hour and a half early with my little camping stool, expecting a big line (after seeing that amazing trailer!), but I sat there alone for about 45 minutes.

Came out of there all giddy, 'cause I knew I just saw history in the making.
I also knew that there'd be sequels... and that I wouldn't get to be first in line for any of 'em quite so easily!
Managed to see 'em both on opening day, though!

It helps to see a movie at Grauman's Chinese with a packed house: The "Battle of the Dock" in Revolutions had my jaw on the floor! (Still does... if I put my nose 7 inches from the monitor!)
So much work went into that!

As for "getting" the movies, it's kinda like Firefly: You either "get it" or you don't.
Of course, if you feel like you're living in a Philip K. Dick novel...

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 2:22 PM

RIVERDANCER


Quote:

Originally posted by MohrStoutbeard:
I just wanted to plant the seed of self-doubt in people's heads


Definitely friendly.
And without touting your own taste, what makes you think people should listen to you?
"OMFGBBQ, this guy on teh intarwebs said someone on this thread has horrible taste, and even tho he din't mention his own picks for movies, I should really take stock of the movies I watch and make sure they aren't horrible!"
Right.

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 2:23 PM

CONSTANCE


Quote:

Originally posted by MohrStoutbeard:
Quote:

Originally posted by RiverDancer:
How very friendly of you. Don't mention movies, don't mention reasons, just come in with a 'wow you have horrible taste' statement that could be directed at anyone or anything and leave it at that. Also really adds to the discussion.



I certainly thought it was friendlier than naming names. I didn't want to argue, I just wanted to plant the seed of self-doubt in people's heads, hopefully causing them to wonder if perhaps they should take better stock of their cinematic intake.

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Im supposed to begin to doubt my taste in movies because you dont wanna name names in this thread?? I am aware that many of the movies I enjoy aint masterpieces thats gonna go down in history as the best movie ever.. I like my taste in movies.. guilty pleasures and all... But a false sense of superiority is essential in many peoples lives (including mine) so go ahead

Constance

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 5:21 PM

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Originally posted by MohrStoutbeard:
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Originally posted by RiverDancer:
How very friendly of you. Don't mention movies, don't mention reasons, just come in with a 'wow you have horrible taste' statement that could be directed at anyone or anything and leave it at that. Also really adds to the discussion.



I certainly thought it was friendlier than naming names. I didn't want to argue, I just wanted to plant the seed of self-doubt in people's heads, hopefully causing them to wonder if perhaps they should take better stock of their cinematic intake.

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I kind-of agree with you. I can understandf not getting into some movies, nothing's going to loved by everyone. But some people are naming bona-fide classics as the worst movie ever, and it makes my jaw drop. Not your cup of tea, cool. But at least in a technical sense, there are very well-made films people have mentioned over some atrocious, amaturistic, and just plain bad films.... all I can say is wow.

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 6:01 PM

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 6:56 PM

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Snakes on a Plane. Bad idea, worse movie.

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 7:30 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
I kind-of agree with you. I can understandf not getting into some movies, nothing's going to loved by everyone. But some people are naming bona-fide classics as the worst movie ever, and it makes my jaw drop. Not your cup of tea, cool. But at least in a technical sense, there are very well-made films people have mentioned over some atrocious, amaturistic, and just plain bad films.... all I can say is wow.



If the title of this thread had been "worst movies ever made" you would have a legitimate beef. Just because a movie is well made or considered a classic doesn't mean a person can't hate it.

I have been so tempted to argue with some of the movies posted in this thread but the distinction between worst vs. most hated has stayed my hand.

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Saturday, May 19, 2007 11:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
I kind-of agree with you. I can understandf not getting into some movies, nothing's going to loved by everyone. But some people are naming bona-fide classics as the worst movie ever, and it makes my jaw drop. Not your cup of tea, cool. But at least in a technical sense, there are very well-made films people have mentioned over some atrocious, amaturistic, and just plain bad films.... all I can say is wow.



Thank you. This was a contrast I found bothersome as well, hence my initial snarky comment. At the same time, I honestly wasn't trying to start an argument, so I refrained from naming names. I figured if it was intentionally vague no one would really care, but I guess I was wrong.

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Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:01 AM

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Here’s the review I wrote for netflix

As much as I wanted to like this movie I found it to be implausible and over the top. The cyberpunk premise was a good beginning, but there was too much flash and not enough substance. I supposed I would have loved this movie when I was twelve, but as it's rated R it should be sophisticated enough that adults can appreciate it. The director still holds with that passé cliché that a really cool computer graphics display has something to do with computer crime. Hugh Jackman did a good job for the role he was given, but John Travolta seemed to be sleepwalking, which is ironic considering that his character had the most development, though it wasn't much. The stunt and special effects driven climax had all the appeal of a homemade video of drunken fraternity boys trying to juggle empty beer kegs after yelling "Hey! Watch this!" Halle Berry flashing her breasts for a cheap thrill is a perfect example of how this movie aimed low and just stayed there. It will be hard to imagine any one outside of the special effects or the stunt departments being proud to have this movie on their resume. All in all: life is too short to watch bad movies and this is one of them.

StarTrek 5 where William Shatner decided that if Leonard Nimoy could direct a movie, Star Trek 4, then he should too. It was just terribly boring. i've seen TNG TV episodes that were better.

I see a lot of movies listed here that I considered if not great then atleast good. Someone hated Jaws because it's scary, well it's supposed to be scary. Someone fell asleep during the Excorcist, well I'll admit it takes a while to get scary, but the long developement makes it a lot scarier later. Some movies require patience, if you don't have any, then go watch MTV. More than a few people didn't like Matrix: Revolutions and I have to admit that I would have preffered that the plot had taken a different path, but that didn't make it a bad movie. Someone didn't like Solaris, it a deep psychological movie that requires emotional and intellectual depth. Perhaps someone is a bit shallow. I was dissappointed by Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, but I expected to be dissapointed. Good books rarely tranlate well into good movies. Dune was a fantastic book, but it was only okay as a movie, the mini series was better in some respects.

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Sunday, May 20, 2007 1:13 AM

CONSTANCE


Quote:

Originally posted by MohrStoutbeard:
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Originally posted by Storymark:
I kind-of agree with you. I can understandf not getting into some movies, nothing's going to loved by everyone. But some people are naming bona-fide classics as the worst movie ever, and it makes my jaw drop. Not your cup of tea, cool. But at least in a technical sense, there are very well-made films people have mentioned over some atrocious, amaturistic, and just plain bad films.... all I can say is wow.



Thank you. This was a contrast I found bothersome as well, hence my initial snarky comment. At the same time, I honestly wasn't trying to start an argument, so I refrained from naming names. I figured if it was intentionally vague no one would really care, but I guess I was wrong.

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But if we all gave in, we would have a fight on our hands. I do so disagree with some people here, but on the other hand its really nice to see that people don't like the same things. Maybe I have hung out with too many film geeks, on account of having studied film theory, but it is nice to see that there is room for different opinions on the classics too.. And people get defensive when they feel their taste is being attacked I guess.

Why on earth everyboy who studies film have to see "birth of a nation" is beyond me. It might be the first long movie.. but it only proves that it was way to early to make a 3 hour movie. Its ofcourse nice to have seen it before watching apocalyose now.. but otherwise, waste of time.

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Sunday, May 20, 2007 3:13 AM

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I think it's cool that everyone has such a wide range of tastes. Different strokes for different folks, you know?

I've heard people say that they wish Daredevil had never been made. If that were the case, then I would've been deprived of one of my favorite movies. (Yes, I love Daredevil) I hate the Matrix movies. Do I wish they wouldn't make more? Absolutly not. As long as there are people out there that love those movies, keep making them for them. Doesn't mean I have to go see them. But, if they will bring joy to the fans out there, I say give them another trilogy.

I know a lot of people that hated Spider-Man 3. I liked it. It's not my favorite of the 3, but I thought it was good. I'm really easy on movies actually. The way I look at it is, I paid to go see a movie about Spider-Man, and that's what I got. So, I can't complain. Hulk I didn't like. I paid to go see a movie about a big green guy smashing stuff, and instead, I got a father/ son story. But, I can usually find something in every movie to enjoy. Like I said, I hated the Matrix movies. But, I thought the visual effects were revolutionary! So, I enjoyed watching certain scenes, even if I didn't know what was going on. At least the visuals were pleasing.

So, naming movies I actually hate is kind of tough. The way I see it, if I truly hate a movie, I won't sit through it. So, I'll name the only 2 movies I can think of that I got up and walked out of before they were over.

The Avengers
A Perfect World

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Sunday, May 20, 2007 4:13 AM

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Originally posted by ScorpionRegent:
Someone fell asleep during the Excorcist, well I'll admit it takes a while to get scary, but the long developement makes it a lot scarier later.


Well the other thing I should say about the Exorsist, other than that I fell asleep halfway through, is that the concept of devil possession does not scare me. Any other kind of horror movie gives me nightmares, but not that kind. Can't remember the name of the one I went to see (and didn't fall asleep in because I wasn't nearly as tired, but still bored) about the antichrist or whatever, but I was very 'meh' about that one, too. I think it was All Souls. That sounds right. I'd say that in order to be afraid of devil possession you have to believe in the devil/demons/hell... but then why do I find zombie movies scary? I always have dreams about being trapped somewhere with bodies pummelling against the building after I see a zombie movie. That single-minded violence and hunger is scary... and that does exist, even if the undead don't. Okay, so that makes sense as to why they freak me out. A concept has to scare you in order to be scary. A concept has to seem real in order to scare me. The Exorsist did not scare me. All Souls did not scare me. I haven't seen, like, the Omen or any of those countless others about the devil, but I don't imagine I would find those anything but totally unbelievable and dull, dull, dull. Some things I just can't suspend disbelief for. Even if I look at that kind of thing as our own inner demons, or good vs evil, or whatever, it's still just meh because it seems so over the top.
I don't watch many horror movies. I don't really like being terrified, but at least it beats being bored.
That was a longer explination than I had planned on. Oh well.


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Sunday, May 20, 2007 4:23 AM

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Originally posted by Slowhand:

I've heard people say that they wish Daredevil had never been made. If that were the case, then I would've been deprived of one of my favorite movies. (Yes, I love Daredevil)

Hey! YOU can't love Daredevil...only I can love it!!!! If I'm not the ONLY one that loves it, my friends won't be able to make fun of me thae same way! ("Yeah, well you're the ONLY one who likes it!!")
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Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:34 AM

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I liked DareDevil too, Chris!
Have yet to see the Director's Cut, though.

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Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:50 AM

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Star Wars Episode I-III

All in all, superfluous kiddie-crap. Granted, the old trilogy had elements of a children's film as well, but not to that ridiculous extent. The love scenes are pathetic - I was constantly scratching my head watching them.

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Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:52 AM

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This has gotten a new thread now... Top 2 Worst Movies I think its called


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Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:54 AM

CHRISISALL


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I liked DareDevil too, Chris!
Have yet to see the Director's Cut, though.

Oh, it's SO worth it! 30 min. of character and sub-plot put back in. It's one of my top 10 superhero movies. I can't believe the dislike for it in some corners.

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Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:49 AM

SLOWHAND


I think if the director's cut was the one released in theaters, they would've done 2 more. I have a friend that HATED Daredevil, but LOVED the director's cut. Yeah, it's that much different.

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Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:57 AM

CHRISISALL


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Originally posted by Slowhand:
I have a friend that HATED Daredevil, but LOVED the director's cut. Yeah, it's that much different.

That was pretty much me too. I liked Elektra better than the theatrical version of Daredevil....

And I'm not so fond of Elektra Chrisisall

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Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:30 PM

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Here's two for ya'll- the Hulk and Epic Movie
The former wasn't so much bad as I felt it didn't do justice to the comics or anything else... and the actual Hulk was showed for maybe fifteen minutes throughout.
The latter though... oh-ho-ho, that is two hours of my life thar I'll never get back. I wanted to gouge out my eyes throughtout the whole thing... but didn't do it, cuz I would still have to hear it, but I'd be blind. Absolute rubbish- riding on the coattails of Scary Movie 4. The Scary Movie series was funny stupid, while Epic Movie was just plain stupid. And it wasn't even all that funny.

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Sunday, May 20, 2007 3:19 PM

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1. Judge Dredd. Completely missed all the dark humourous nuances of the comic strip. And you shouldn't ever see his face.

2. War of the Worlds (1956). Gratuitously relocated from Victorian England to 50s US. Seen as a classic but enormously overrated IMO. I've never seen the Tom Cruise effort, but the idea sounds just as bad too. Martians don't really work in a modern context. There was a version with a period setting but that is supposed to be really awful as well. Better off with Jeff Wayne's musical version 2CD. A rock classic.

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