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Comi-Con Anti-Dr. Horrible Movement Calls for Browncoats to Rise

POSTED BY: CANTTAKEMYSKY
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Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:39 PM

CANTTAKEMYSKY


This applies to firefly in the sense that our Cap'n Tightpants could be shamed (of course by ignorant humps, but those ignorant humps are still potential Browncoats)

At Comi-Con there have been talks, and actual plans made by a narrow minded group of people known as Toy Soldiers, to "expose" the "stealing" of the premise of Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog. These people are followers of a show, site, and character known as Dr. Steel. For the last decade Dr. Steel is a mad scientist bent on taking over the world. He wears goggles, a lab coat, and he sings. Yes, there are similarities, that can be seen.

These Toy Soldiers claim that our beloved and virtuous Joss and Co. have stolen the idea for DHSAB from Dr. Steel. Yet, Joss and Co. have already made a statement that they had no idea what Dr. Steel was, that any similarity was coincidental. They have "missions" page which has "operations" on the site. Here's the one for the movement: http://www.toysoldiersunite.com/index.php?pid=missions&mid=36 that tell their followers to trash DHSAB in any way possible on the web. You can observe this at the youtube DHSAB site. Then, they have an "operation" to expose it futher at Comi-Con at the DHSAB panel. This calls for Browncoats to rise.

I cannot attend Comi-Con (goram it) yet I am sending out a rallying cry for any Browncoats that are to go and support Joss and Co., Nathan, and DHSAB by telling people the truth. The Toy Soldiers say they will be peaceful, so we should too. Please do something to get what really happened out there. Don't let them destroy many of our favorite peoples' reps by spreading falsehoods.

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Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:03 PM

CANTTAKEMYSKY


Sorry for the bump, but wanted to update information.

Acorriding to the Toy Soldier "Operations" page, their movement will take place EDIT:FRIDAY JULY, 25 FROM 1:30PM-2:30PM OUTSIDE THE DR. HORRIBlE PANEL AT BALL ROOM 20. THEN AT 10:45PM-12:00AM THEY WILL BE AT ROOM 6B FOR THE DR. HORRIBLE SCREENING.

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Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:40 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


If it's any consolation, I've never heard of Dr. Steel, or Toy Soldiers for that matter, until this posting.

Those so-called Toy Solders should grow up. Also if this were true, I think a lawsuit would have been the way to go. Its easy for anyone to say, "Oh yeah, that was my idea and he stole it from me." Proving it is something else.

"When did this stop being funny?"

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Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:24 PM

SIMONWHO


There's an old saying: never get into an argument with someone who buys their ink by the barrel. Here's a new saying: never get into an argument on the internet with Joss Whedon fans - they have both numbers and insanity on their side.

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Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:50 PM

WYTCHCROFT


Quote:

Originally posted by CantTakeMySky:
(actually their site says 10:45pm-12:00pm, but i thought i would fix that little issue.)



HA! gorramit you shoulda left it like it was!!:)

can you imagine?

"Uh, where is everybody?"
"They must be hiding dufus - this means we were RIGHT!"
"Yuh, but - seems kinda dark..."

Btw - Has ANYONE heard of Dr Steel?

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:09 AM

FILLYGIRL

Operative: "Its worse than you know..." Mal: "It usually is."


Did you post this over at Whedonesque?


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...it usually is.....Mal

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:25 AM

WYTCHCROFT


Quote:

Originally posted by CantTakeMySky:
Sorry for the bump, but wanted to update information.

Acorriding to the Toy Soldier "Operations" page, their movement will take place FRIDAY JULY, 25 FROM 10:45AM-12:00PM OUTSIDE ROOM 6B.

(actually their site says 10:45pm-12:00pm, but i thought i would fix that little issue.)



wait a minute - wait a minute

foggy cogs of the wytchbrain begin to whir...

(foggy cogs? ah, nevermind)

begin to whir, as in:

Is this for REAL???

As in... Dr Horrible - he sings! Dr (ahem!) Steel - he sings! (apparently)

Ok then, anyone see the great potential web-cammed sing off in this???

Dr Steel "Come my followers sing out in my name!"
(they sing)

Dr Horrible "Ha! I didn't cut my milk teeth with Dr T for nothing,
come Evil league of Evil - in the name of Joss! - make like the 5000 fingers,
and sing!"
(fans sing)

"Wait! Hey!" From the right hand table (and representing the Guild) Felicia Day moves to restore order.

1500 Browncoats: "Oh - God - NOOOOOOOOO!"

Slight Hummmph! as FD is buried under a pile of well meaning over protective fans*.

Later the whole event is broadcast on the net with a commentary and bonus features.
It is a smash success.

"Indeed yes," says Joss "I likes me a killin' - M'wha ha ha!"

:)

* Jed: Y'know this would fit the football fight scene music from Flash Gordon exactly...

Joss: Good call Bro!

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:13 AM

BORIS


Oh for @#*%'s sake! The concept of a crazy goggle and lab coat wearing nut job wanting to rule the world is hardly a new one! Joss and co have beautifully amped it up and made it accutely entertaining by adding their own very unique and utterly engaging spin on it...Who the Bleep are these Toy Soldiers? are there more than 7 of them? do they honestly believe their Dr Steel will have an impact relative to Dr Horrible? actually this thing is kind of amusing...have you noticed how many people out there are offended by anything Whedonesqual, just because it inspires so much love and loyalty? It makes them nuts, and it's fun to make them go nuts, and even more fun to introduce them to Firefly and have them admit they love it...and then they go even crazier...but by then they are well and truly hooked.

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:23 AM

ZZETTA13


I think captain Hammer should use his "Hammer" on them......yep that's what I ment

Z

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:28 AM

GRIZWALD


I love Doctor Steel, now that I know who he is, but I hope he is ashamed of himself for ripping off Dr. Frankenstein. Me and my Frankensoldiers are going to (peaceably) trash his butt all over the Interwebs.

(tongue in cheek)

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:37 AM

TVCHICK


Quote:

Originally posted by CantTakeMySky:
The Toy Soldiers say they will be peaceful, so we should too.

That should go without saying. We are Browncoats. We have a rep for being a NICE fandom. I think we all like that, so don't noone go ruinin' it. ;)

Actually, I think Joss would have a lot of fun w/any of the Toys that questioned him meanly about... um, what's their Dr's name again...? Eh, whatever. I'm sure Joss would be hysterical in his replying.

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:51 AM

PHYRELIGHT


Dr. Steel? Who? Never heard of him before.




Experience the Horribleness!

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:09 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by boris:
Oh for @#*%'s sake! The concept of a crazy goggle and lab coat wearing nut job wanting to rule the world is hardly a new one!


That is so true! I've got the DVD set for Space Ghost from 1966, and just about EVERY episode has some madman wearing a lab coat with a devious plan to take over the world. Also, Dr. No, Bloefield, anyone?

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:26 AM

ZZETTA13


Quote:

Originally posted by Grizwald:
I love Doctor Steel, now that I know who he is, but I hope he is ashamed of himself for ripping off Dr. Frankenstein. Me and my Frankensoldiers are going to (peaceably) trash his butt all over the Interwebs.

(tongue in cheek)

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Grizwald, Dr Steel is a rip-off of Dr. Frankenstein? Wouldn’t that make him Dr. Steal?

Ha..ha…. Couldn’t help it. Calm down “toy soldiers” I’m only jokin.

Z

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:40 AM

VILAVON


Never heard of Dr. Steele or the Toy Soldiers. Sounds like the makings of a mighty fine shindig, though.

Vilavon AKA Claude

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:42 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


You see! That's why I love this fan site best. We take a Horrible situation (couldn't resist) and turn it around. My fellow Browncoats I'm proud of you because instead of hating we....well you know!

Boris you are correct sir! Let's make 'em crazy!

"Love is what keeps her flying.."

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:32 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Quote:

Originally posted by Grizwald:
I love Doctor Steel, now that I know who he is, but I hope he is ashamed of himself for ripping off Dr. Frankenstein. Me and my Frankensoldiers are going to (peaceably) trash his butt all over the Interwebs.

(tongue in cheek)




LOL!

Sign me up!

Damn Dr Steel for stealing a not so original concept and accusing others of doing it too.



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Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:15 AM

WYTCHCROFT


bump

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:45 AM

CANTTAKEMYSKY


I totally agree with everyone. The people who never heard of him, neither had I, until I went o watch the preview on YouTube...again (again [run tze duh fwoo tzoo I love that thing]). I'm glad everyone hasn't flamed up and stuff, that just makes me remember who we are and what we stand for. I just thought people should know about this. A chance for us to make peace with a situation that if it was anyone but Browncoats and other Whedonites, could have gotten out of hand. You guys rock...out loud...like Keith Moon style...without the feinting on stage....yea. I'm sorry if the first post was a bit fear-mongerish, like Dr. Horrible, I come on a bit strong.

Oh, and Ihaven't posted this on Whedonesque, because I sadly do not have a membership there. I want one so bad, but when a holiday comes around, I always forget...whens the next registration, anyone
know?

I did post a link on Shiny Universe, but acidentally double posted it...dang Opera Mini Browser.

And Here's something we can use as a show of support.





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Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:02 AM

GRIZWALD


He's quite a character with a great voice. Cute, too - he looks great in a lab coat!



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Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:11 AM

WYTCHCROFT


Quote:

Originally posted by Grizwald:
He's quite a character with a great voice. Cute, too - he looks great in a lab coat!



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LOL!:)

this just aint gonna get old:)

and yeh, can'ttakemysky, it IS nice to see the reaction here and on other sites, it really is:)

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:52 AM

ZZETTA13





Finally! some folk that dance as well as I do!

"Back and forth...back and forth...back and forth..side to side

You're right Wytchy, aint gonna go away...lol

Z

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:18 AM

WYTCHCROFT


Quote:

Originally posted by zzetta13:


Your right Wytchy, aint gonna go away...lol

Z




Dr HORRIBLE (SINGS) So many Doctors I don’t know what to do…

Dr STEEL: Oh yeah like who?

Dr HORRIBLE: Yes Dr Who!

Dr STEEL: You what?

Dr H: Yes Dr Spock!

Dr S: Spock was a MR ! You can kiss my –

Dr H: Not the one on star trek –
the one who knew – a thing or two –
about young children –
not as hip as pointy ears… but he was famous for some years…

Dr S: So many Doctors…

Dr H: Wonderful and fair

Dr S: Like Dr T

Dr H: He’s proud of me

Dr S: Or Chamberlain’s Kildaire

BOTH: Such lovely hair…

Dr H: Then again, there’s Dr Jekyll, Dr No and Dr Crippen,

Dr S: Ooooh they were nasty, they were spiffing!

Dr H: Dr Frankenstein I liked

Dr S: But only in the black and white!

PANEL QUESTION: So just how many Doctors does it take to change a light b-

Dr H: If we only knew!

Dr S: So many Doctors – I don’t know what to do…

Dr H: But still –

Dr S: I love you…

Dr H: I love you too.



(ok, your turn people - uh, does this count as fan fic???)










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Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:23 AM

ZZETTA13


LOL...Wytchy that's GREAT!!

Z

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:52 AM

CANTTAKEMYSKY


Quote:

Originally posted by zzetta13:
LOL...Wytchy that's GREAT!!

Z



I concur whole heartedly! Wytchy, that's hilarious!

Just think what they could do if the two, actually did pair up!!! Dai ruh muji!

I also wanted to apologize for using the generalization that Toy Soldiers were narrowminded. Its only a group of them. Dr. Steel isn't half bad really. Its just when people insult Joss the way they were, go-suh hits the engines.

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:16 AM

ZZETTA13


With respect to CantTakeMySky



I need to lay off the mudders milk!

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:41 AM

EMBERS


this whole thing surprised me when I first heard about it...
because I had assumed that Joss was ripping off Doctor Evil!

But no matter, there are enough lab coats and goggles to go around, in fact I hope that a lot of them are around at Comic con this week!
LOL

I wish I was going to be at Comic Con this week!



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Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:03 PM

2X2


I first heard about this over on Whedonesque, so I went to check out Dr. Steel... aside from the fact that he does music and singing, and yeah, they both wear the 'traditional' mad scientist get up, there are no similarities...

I'm happy to have discovered that I quite like Dr. Steel's stuff, however, his Toy Soldiers leave something to be desired. It's sad, because if they hadn't all been such whiners, I might have one day counted myself as one of their numbers. But not now.

Imagine, being able to enjoy Dr. Horrible AND Dr. Steel - what a concept! They complain because Steel's been around since the 90's, so instead of cashing in on Dr. Horrible's popularity to gain some cross fandom following (a simple Hey, you Dr. Horrible fans might like this guy too would have sufficed) they've alienated a legion of potential fans that probably would enjoy Dr. Steel.

The shortsightedness of some people... reminds me of the marketing people at Fox and Universal, shutting down fansites and fan merch for copy right infringement instead of realizing that these people are keeping your fandom alive!!!

But I digress... rant rant rant.

Long live Dr. Horrible (and do check out Dr. Steel, he's got some fun stuff)

Also - as a note, it would preserve our dignity and show that we are the better fandom by NOT retaliating to their infantile efforts. Browncoats are the best folks out there! Let's keep it that way~!

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:10 PM

CANTTAKEMYSKY


Zzetta13 that is hilariously shiny! Love it!

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:16 PM

WYTCHCROFT


Quote:

Originally posted by zzetta13:
With respect to CantTakeMySky

I need to lay off the mudders milk!



oh my dear and fluffy lord!

also - ruuuuuuuuun!:):)

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Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:46 PM

TRAVELER


I think the only way to have an original superhero / supervillain is to have him / her dress as a drag queen. I mean there are dozens of evil doers out there in lab coats. Besides any selfrespecting Mad Doctor where goggles. All those explosions. Safety first.


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Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:52 PM

CHINDI


OMG I am LMAO.. I LOVE the Browncoats...

Dr. Steal?? get him with the "Hammer" (uh huh, that's what I meant...)

A sing off... and findally the combined Horrible/Steel forces..

you guys make me proud, but more importantly, you make me laugh out LOUD!!


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Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:05 PM

ANONYMOUS1


Dr. Horrible Sing-Along Blog t-shirts are back in stock. Get them before they sell out again.

http://www.jinx.com/drhorrible

Here is example of one of the shirts.


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Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:21 PM

GRIZWALD


I'll order the model, please.

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Friday, July 25, 2008 5:00 AM

ZEEK


I too had never heard of Dr. Steel before this whole thing came to light. I went to the sight to check it out and yeah the similarities are pretty much the outfit and the fact that they both sing. They don't even sing in the same genre from what I saw. I really doubt that Joss stole any of his work from Dr. Steel.

Plus I was bored to tears by the video I watched. It wasn't funny. It seemed more like the thing was trying to be serious. It was painful but I watched the rest of the video before deciding Dr. Steel was not for me.

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Friday, July 25, 2008 8:37 AM

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Offhand...has anyone informed Dexter from Dexter's Lab that his act has been stolen from him by Dr. Steel?

Did anyone inform Gene Wilder that Dexter stole his Young Frankenstein costume? Or Warner Brothers that Young Frankenstein also exploited this stereotype from their cartoons...or the real Frankenstein for that matter?

It's a mad scientist costume stereotype, and I can't for the life of me figure out why people are all up in arms about it. It's silly!

Please...please, for the love of Buddha, I hope I don't run into any of these guys at D*C.



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Friday, July 25, 2008 4:26 PM

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Friday, July 25, 2008 6:49 PM

BORIS


The thing I love about Browncoats, is that we are passionate but not militantly or zealously so...we come form a cross section of cultures/backgrounds...we are generally accepting...anyone who wants to belong can..and we have many other interests apart from Firefly/Serenity....I have never yet heard of a browncoat making noxious comments about other fansites, or scifi preferences, or demoralising anyone over their alternate choices. we are a pretty unique bunch in that respect, so it's mirthfully ironic that sooo many other groups feel the need to be negative towards us. I also found it funny that the "toy Soldiers" felt the need to state that their movement would be peaceful...did they think a bunch of Browncoats would turn up and beat the hell out of them? it's just not who we are.

Rose aka:Boris

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:09 AM

LETOV


Sooooooo....

Did anything actually happen with this? I'm curious.



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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:06 AM

SIMONWHO


I'm hoping common sense prevailed or at least the Dr Steel guys worked out that Whedon has many times as many followers as them and we're just as crazy as they are.

Of course, they aren't really similar at all. Their characteristics are entirely different, their outfits are only vaguely similar (if you gave someone $100 and told them to dress up as a evil Doctor, you'd almost always get a similar result) and you can judge a lot about a man by their sidekick. (I'd like to imagine the cold day in hell when Joss would assign female followers a PVC nurse's outfit as their default costume).

But even more than that, one of them is an actual video blog whereas the other is a short piece about someone who has a video blog. One of them has a character who sings, the other is a musical so everyone is singing but (there's probably some clever word or phrase for this) they're not aware that they're singing.

They really have bugger all in common.

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:50 AM

EMBERS


Quote:

Originally posted by SimonWho:
I'm hoping common sense prevailed or at least the Dr Steel guys worked out that Whedon has many times as many followers as them and we're just as crazy as they are.

They really have bugger all in common.



well I'm glad no one seemed upset at Comic Con,
when the Dr. Steel fans first started attacking Doctor Horrible's MySpace page I thought it was funny...
but when they came here and asked Browncoats to arise AGAINST Doctor Horrible (hello! made by Joss Whedon! this is family you're talking about...) I thought that was hilarious!

At any rate it does seem like there was fun had by all at Comic Con (I wish I could have been there)

New Firefly fans should check this out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=15816

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:57 AM

CANTTAKEMYSKY


Quote:

Originally posted by embers:


well I'm glad no one seemed upset at Comic Con,
when the Dr. Steel fans first started attacking Doctor Horrible's MySpace page I thought it was funny...
but when they came here and asked Browncoats to arise AGAINST Doctor Horrible (hello! made by Joss Whedon! this is family you're talking about...) I thought that was hilarious!




Dr. Steel fans tried to get us to turn? wow. That is a bundle of giggles.

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Friday, August 1, 2008 3:13 PM

KHAZARA


I was at both the Dr. Horrible panel in Ballroom 20 and the Sing-A-Long in 6B on Friday night. There were no Dr. Steel people *anywhere* that I could see. Nothing. Zip. Nada. And I think they would have said something to me, cuz there was imminent danger and in the middle of it ME!
http://flickr.com/photos/theonetruebix/2705024488/
http://flickr.com/photos/impalergeneral/2709104688/

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Saturday, August 2, 2008 9:35 AM

LEXIBLOCK


Less of the hysteria and i suggest not to attack anybody or anything. Stay out of it. Should it ever get to court Joss will handle it there.

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Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:21 AM

GRIZWALD


Dr. Steel copied Veggie Tales' Buzz-Saw Louie.




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Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:56 PM

LESTER


i checked it out on youtube, and its...good, i guess.But it's not great like dr. horrible. it's like dr horrible at a red green show level. it's...meh.

awesome as always,
lester

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