FOX Begs Fans to Prevent Cancellation (of sorts) by Cedric

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FOX Begs Fans to Prevent Cancellation (of sorts)

POSTED BY: CEDRIC
UPDATED: Thursday, January 7, 2010 05:18
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Saturday, December 19, 2009 7:03 PM

In an odd twist of fate, the FOX Network ran ads during last Friday's Dollhouse, asking fans of FOX shows to rally behind them in their fight with Time Warner Cable. They even point out that our favorite shows, such as Dollhouse, might go away without our support in this struggle.

This raises three questions:

(1) Why on Earth would FOX think that fan protests can prevent a cancellation? It hasn't worked when we protested to FOX!

(2) Why on Earth would FOX think that Dollhouse fans would feel any sense of loyalty to them when they've already cancelled the show?

(3) Why on Earth would FOX think that fans of television in general would feel any sense of loyalty to FOX? They've broken our hearts with cancellations so many times that all I can do is sit back and laugh that they want our help.

So, I encourage all Browncoats to go to www.keepfoxon.com and post polite explanations of why we don't have their back on this one.

Cedric

"Some things stay with you, 'til the day you die."
On the Drift: Music Inspired by Firefly and Serenity, now on sale at
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Saturday, December 19, 2009 7:13 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

I always watch off the DVR and skip over the commercials so I missed that. It does seem odd they would include Dollhouse in that statement since we all know it only has three more episodes before it goes bye-bye.

Not sure if it would effect me at all one way or the other since I have cable from a company other than Time Warner.

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Saturday, December 19, 2009 8:20 PM

CALHOUN

I can't remember how the expression goes so I am not sure "if I would piss on Fox if they were on fire"...

On the one hand I would like very much to piss on them.. on the other hand watching them burn has its own appeal.

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Saturday, December 19, 2009 9:21 PM

CLAUDS

I just left the following comment:

I feel that this appeal for fans to rally in support of FOX is quite ironic and rather insulting considering the efforts fans of the TV series 'Firefly.' After such an extensive effort was carried out by the Browncoats (Firefly fans) to save Firefly, I am not slightly inclined to support this cause. Thank-you.

Browncoat and proud!

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Sunday, December 20, 2009 4:01 AM

LERXST

Calhoun,

Was it:

"I wouldn't piss in his ear if his brains were on fire."

Fox.

______________________________________________________
"So, you're proposing that we go back in time, find some Humpback whales, bring them back here, and hope they can tell this "probe" what to go do with itself??"
"That's the general idea."
"THAT'S CRAZY!"

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Sunday, December 20, 2009 4:11 AM

SCHISM

Not a damn thing on their "what would I miss?" list that you can't get on other channels or on DVD later on.

As hooked as I am on the final few episodes of Dollhouse, I'd gladly wait for the DVD release if it meant FOX getting a taste of their own medicine.

Then again, it would only be worth it if they were aware of the irony, which I doubt...

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Sunday, December 20, 2009 4:51 AM

PIZMOBEACH

... fully loaded, safety off...

This is Fox and Time Warner (Content Creators versus Content Deliverers) having a disagreement over pricing.

Time Warner's site:
http://rolloverorgettough.com/

"Some of our contracts with program providers are up at the end of this year – and they’ve demanded as much as 300% more for their shows. Even worse, they’re threatening to pull the plug if we don’t pay their price."

Fux wants to charge more for programming and Time Warner doesn't want to pay it (which is BS since they'd just shift the charge to their users - they may even do both!).

Both sides are trying to manipulate viewers, to rile them up and get them mad at the other side, "They're trying to gouge us!" "They're going to stop carrying your favorite shows!"
That's what FUX means when they say "cancellation."

I say FUX 'em both. There's too much tv anyway.

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com

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Sunday, December 20, 2009 6:56 AM

SCHISM

Besides, House is too big right now to be lost through the cracks.

If they lose it, someone else will pick it up.

No big loss.

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Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:36 AM

CHRISISALL

Fox wants our help- that is too gorram funny.
Firefly, Dark Angel, Brisco County and Dollhouse are all done anyway.
Good widdance to bad wubbish.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:44 AM

LWAVES

This has cheered me up and I was already happy.
They want OUR help!!

Even if Dollhouse could be saved I would be willing to let it go because of their past atrocities. There is no way that whatever help is given by fans would they bring it back for another season.

I say we piss on them even if they are not on fire.
They've pissed on us enough.

So say we all.
(Okay wrong show but it's fitting)

"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."

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Sunday, December 20, 2009 8:34 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

It's a Jedi mindfrak.

But this homeless crazy stalker has their back.
http://toresimonsen.wordpress.com/mental-health-records/

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Sunday, December 20, 2009 8:36 AM

SUASOR

Then again, Fox was the new network that took a chance on shows that, in retrospect, should have been on cable. Without Fox taking the chance, we might never have seen Firefly or Dollhouse. These two shows didn't find an audience soon enough, and while it's nice to say that Fox should have carried them for a year or two until everyone got the memo, that's not the way the TV biz works anymore.

It's easy to hate Fox, but without them, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

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Sunday, December 20, 2009 9:24 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Suasor:

It's easy to hate Fox, but without them, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

I get it, it's showBUSINESS, right?
Well, if the biz is gonna eff Fox up, I won't cry is all.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Sunday, December 20, 2009 10:54 AM

RAHLMACLAREN

"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it." - Jayne Cobb

If F*X renewed Dollhouse, and moved it to Tuesdays, and funded it, then I might - in alternate universe - consider thinking about thinking about it.

--------------------------------------------------
Find here the Serenity you seek. -Tara Maclay

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Sunday, December 20, 2009 6:37 PM

CEDRIC

Interesting--Fox seems to be allowing posts that complain about their rate increase, but they're not brave enough to make public our posts that point out how much we would support them if Firefly were still on the air.

Cedric

"Some things stay with you, 'til the day you die."
On the Drift: Music Inspired by Firefly and Serenity, now on sale at
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Monday, December 21, 2009 1:15 AM

DANCINGNEKO

Posted my 0.02 plat, but it don't look like it's going to be posted.

I'm guessing that they'll post anything that praises FOX or bashes TWC, but nothing that even remotely makes FOX look even the smallest bit bad.

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Monday, December 21, 2009 2:05 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

What's that Alannis Morrisette song again.........
"Ironic"

"Like 10,000 spoons, when all you need is a knife"

Only Fox would have the temerity.

SGG

Tawabawho?

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Monday, December 21, 2009 6:31 AM

MIRAXIAN

My comments to FOX:

You know what FOX, I am just going to have to say this serves you right. After the way you have treated fans over the last decade, you deserve this.

Who wants to pay more for a company that can't figure out that it should keep good shows on? That is no way to develop fans, and more importantly, more viewers. So what if shows take a little time to develop. Seinfeld took years to become strong and that worked out pretty well for the show and NBC.

So, yeah, screw you on this one FOX. You have earned it. Now go reap what you have sown.

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Monday, December 21, 2009 12:19 PM

KAREL

Flying on duct tape and a damaged registry.

Quote:
Originally posted by Dancingneko:
I'm guessing that they'll post anything that praises FOX or bashes TWC, but nothing that even remotely makes FOX look even the smallest bit bad.

Like Joss said, it is not about creativity, it's about control.

"Whatever is wrong with you is so right for me." -- Marillion.

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Monday, December 21, 2009 9:01 PM

SHADESIREN

recently posted via a member of my household:

"I wouldn't miss FOX if it went away - I don't watch American Idol."

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Tuesday, December 22, 2009 2:00 AM

KIMBER

*laughs sarcastically* this is funny...more than giving them my help these people make me want to punch them in the face. They cancelled Firefly and ACTUALLY pretend we should help.

Really fux...go where to came from - the special level of hell!

And merry xmas!

Kim

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Tuesday, December 22, 2009 3:02 AM

FILLYGIRL

Operative: "Its worse than you know..." Mal: "It usually is."

I'm torn, they did let Joss try again, and they did keep Dollhouse for a second season,......maybe, and thats a big maybe, if we help them out, maybe they would re-consiter(sp) putting that 'space cowboy' show back on in some way.
I will post but only by reminding them that THE Bowncoats are trying to help, and they should return the favor.
It is Christmas, after all.

Chaplain of the 76th Independant Battalion

Do not bother dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

...it's worse than you know...Operative
...it usually is.....Mal

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Tuesday, December 22, 2009 5:11 PM

EAGERREAVER

Be careful. Paying any attention whatsoever to Fox's site might unintentionally aid their cause. All they might do at the end of the day is rheel off statistics. X amounts of visits to the site. Y amount of comments from concerned viewers. They won't destinguish good or bad. They'll spin the numbers in their favor and end up with the leverage they need.

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Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:02 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by fillygirl:
I'm torn

Don't be. Let them burn. They care for MONEY, not creativity.
TV Darwinism.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:03 PM

JRNYFAN

To hell with FOX. I posted a comment explaining why they won't be receiving my support because of what they did to Firefly. I'm sure I won't see that comment aired anytime soon.

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Wednesday, December 30, 2009 1:16 AM

ZZETTA13

They got the defiant “ I won’t support you!” response from me. The last time I did try to watch anything on that network was when Tim’s tv show DRIVE was on. That didn’t last but 4 episodes. Haven’t watched a thing on there since then.

I won’t miss ‘em

Z

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Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:59 AM

RIVERLOVE

This sounds like a chicken and egg thing. Who really needs whom here? Fox will suffer without the numbers from Time-Warner, but Time-Warner will be beseiged by irate viewers and suffer if Fox is gone from their line-up. The whole thing is a bit surrealistic, and because it's all about money and greed, I don't give a damn!

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Thursday, December 31, 2009 3:21 PM

JAMERON4EVA

Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:
This sounds like a chicken and egg thing. Who really needs whom here? Fox will suffer without the numbers from Time-Warner, but Time-Warner will be beseiged by irate viewers and suffer if Fox is gone from their line-up. The whole thing is a bit surrealistic, and because it's all about money and greed, I don't give a damn!

*barely aknoledging nod* RIVERLOVE.

Unfortunantly, i agree with you on the whole T-W/Bright House v. FOX thing. BUT, don't you think that FOX desrves what is happening to them? I mean they cancel GREAT shows, like Firefly, TSCC, Dark Angel, and other's and they keep crap on like American Idol, and Glee? WHo watches this shit for anything other than laughs. Well maybe the people who vote on A.I., but GLEE?????????????? And they cancel DOLLHOUSE? I mean i know that i didn't watch much of the show, but come on. They did to it what they did to Dark Angel, Firefly, and it's predecessor, TSCC. They put it on the Friday, virtually giving up on the show before it got a chance to get good. Now they pulled dick moves like they did with DARK ANGEL, and FIREFLY, and cancelled it in the middle of the season (FIREFLY), and they gave a big Finger to the fans, (All Four). So i say FOX get's what it deserves. I mean i'll only miss my Friday Night Smackdown, my Undertaker (in a creepely Paul Bearer sounding voice), but i still have Raw, and all the other shows i like. Who knows, this could open up spots for new channels to get notariety? But that probably woun't happen because TW/ Bright House will cave like they did last time, and keep their Nelson points.

BTW, why do we STILL use the Nelson TV system any way? It's outdated, and causes many a good show to be cancelled because only two out some fifty odd houses watch the shows, but they account for ALL the houses in their mythical "voting" area. That's just the problem with statistics, they can be easily manipulated to read one way.

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

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Thursday, January 7, 2010 1:07 AM

HAKEN

Likes to mess with stuffs.

Here's the latest news on the TW/FOX fiasco.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/03/AR2010
010301751.html

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Thursday, January 7, 2010 5:18 AM

ZEEK

I'm shocked that they caved. I have DirecTV and if they ever jack up the price for the "local channels" I'd just cancel that service. I already have rabbit ears for the over the air HD channels and they come in just fine. Why would I pay $1 per local channel per month?

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