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Originally posted by GWEK:
To be honest (as I think I may say in my thread), when I got to the end of the episode before HOLLOW MEN, I wondered if one possible finale Joss had considered for FIREFLY went something like this:

By season seven, the crew has decided to go on the offensive against Blue Sun. Turns out the only way to take it down is by taking out the directors who control it--but River is the only one who knows who they are (thanks to her psychic abilities). Unfortunately, those memories are buried (yet another secret burning up River Tam's mind). When the finally unearth the secret, the Big Bad pulling all the strings is none other than Derrial Book... who happens to have been watching over River because she's special and he needs her for his endgame.

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

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Originally posted by GWEK:
If Joss can reverse-engineer Simon into River's rescue (which completely undercuts his character development and who he was at the time), why not?

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

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Originally posted by GWEK:
Joss said that he only did it because he had to do it to make the movie work.

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I don't doubt Simon's motivations, but the Simon that we see at the beginning of the series (indeed, quite possibly the Simon we see at the END of the series) would not be capable of pulling it off.

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Also, while Simon could have been lying, it directly contradicts what information that we have in the series.

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In the context of the movie, I buy it. In the context of the overall FIREFLY canon... not so much.

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Originally posted by 1eyedcat:
I see deep connections between Firefly and Dollhouse, with Whedon reworking many of the same themes. So, in addition to the mind manipulation theme, in Firefly, Serenity is a haven, on the outskirts of society and the law, for people who have reason to escape, presided over by a strong, paternalistic figure. Much the same can be said about the Dollhouse, but with much greater moral ambiguity.

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Dick Cheney's Dollhouse

Given his many mishaps, I was in a charitable mood when I went to hear the man speak on Monday. He looked positively rosy, well-fed and had virtually no wrinkles on his face, even at close range. The cares that someone like him ought to have were not reflected in Dick Cheney's face.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,557670,00.html

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The Most Dangerous Game with Robert Hansen

Robert Hansen, a serial killer who was active in the early 1980s, would kidnap women and then release them in the Knik River Valley in Alaska. He would then hunt them, armed with a knife and a Ruger Mini-14 rifle. He worked as an assistant drill instructor at a police academy in Pocahontas, Iowa. He even broke several records, documented in the Pope & Young's book of world hunting records. On June 13, 1983, 17 year old Cindy Paulson went to the police after escaping from the cockpit of Hansen's Piper Super Cub, a set of handcuffs still dangling from one wrist. She told police that she had been offered $200 to pose for pictures before being abducted, raped, and sexually assaulted with the wooden handle of a hammer. She stated that she had worked one cuff loose, then fled on foot from the airplane's cockpit when Hansen was distracted while loading supplies. She claimed to have eluded Hansen until she was picked up by a passing truck on a nearby road and taken to the police. Supported by Paulson's testimony, Flothe and the police secured a warrant and searched Hansen's house on October 27, 1983, uncovering jewelry belonging to the victims, newspaper clippings about the murders and an array of firearms — including a semi-automatic .223-caliber Ruger Mini-14 rifle. They theorized that he began killing prostitutes around 1979. After paying a woman for her services, he would kidnap, torture, and rape her. He would then bind her and fly her out to his cabin in the Knik River Valley in his private airplane. Once he had found a suitably desolate location, he would release his victim on a river sandbar, stalk her and then kill her with a hunting knife or the Ruger carbine as she fled through the woods. When ballistics tests returned a match between bullets found at the crime scenes and Hansen's rifle, he entered into a plea bargain. He pled guilty to the four homicides the police knew about and provided details about his other victims in return for serving his sentence in a federal prison along with no publicity in the press. He confirmed the police theory of how the women were abducted, adding that he would sometimes let a potential victim go if she convinced him that she wouldn't report him to police, and indicated that he began killing as early as 1973. He showed investigators 17 gravesites in the Knik River Valley, 12 of which were unknown to the police. 11 remains of a probable 21 victims were exhumed by the police and returned to their families.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Most_Dangerous_Game
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hansen

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