Caprica canceled by whozit

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Wednesday, October 27, 2010 1:23 PM

I really like Eric Stoltz.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 27, 2010 1:24 PM

DEWRASTLER

I never watched it, and was considering checking it out, but I guess now I won't.

And in the defense of Warehouse 13, that show is just plain fun. Myka and Pete are great on screen together.

But back to BSG, I guess they're working on other prequels set around the time of the war.

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Wednesday, October 27, 2010 1:36 PM

LWAVES

I love the new BSG and I kinda liked the idea of what they were trying to do but I wasn't overly impressed by the pilot and then it lost me a few episodes into the first season.
It's no big shock that it's gone and I won't miss it but I do wonder if/how this will affect the planned TV movie/pilot showing the young William Adama and the first war with Cylons. To me this sounds much more appealing than what Caprica was trying to do. Guess we'll have to see.

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Wednesday, October 27, 2010 3:58 PM

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
so sad another s**t spinoff of the crappy New BSG is gone.... how will I live?

Frak you, Chris. It was a very well-written and acted show, and Stoltz was doing the best work of his career. Yeah, it may have been a bit slower paced that it should have been, but it even had plenty of 'splosions for the more intellectually challenged such as you. You go on and on about what I consider crap shows so I don't take your opinion too seriously most of the time.

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Wednesday, October 27, 2010 4:29 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

As much as I wanted to enjoy it, the prequel was a bit clumsy in how the story was moving along.

Sorry to hear of its demise.

Well, a little sorry, at least.

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Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:13 PM

DMI

Expired, forgotten, spoiled rotten.

It is going to be replaced with a new show called "Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome" about Ensign Adama during the first war.

Gag.

If they want to continue a once great scifi show why not just give Firefly another season?

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Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:33 PM

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
so sad another s**t spinoff of the crappy New BSG is gone.... how will I live?

Frak you, Chris. It was a very well-written and acted show, and Stoltz was doing the best work of his career. Yeah, it may have been a bit slower paced that it should have been, but it even had plenty of 'splosions for the more intellectually challenged such as you. You go on and on about what I consider crap shows so I don't take your opinion too seriously most of the time.

I kinda hate to say it, but I'm with ECG on this one. Caprica was pretty much my favorite show on Syfy. I like the pacing and the character development - both in-world and virtual.

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:26 AM

ZEEK

The first cylon war doesn't sound any more interesting to me. Basically there's no time period they can go back to that will capture the feel of BSG. They can try to milk every little bit out of the franchise but there just isn't any gold mine left.

I never got into Caprica and I don't even think I'll watch an episode of Blood and Chrome.

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:27 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
so sad another s**t spinoff of the crappy New BSG is gone.... how will I live?
Kara Thrace, save us!!!

The snarkinfested Chrisisall

Go ahead, slag off on the most critically acclaimed Sci Fi of the last decade, and any spin-offs, while championing crap. It totally builds your credibility....

Frak you indeed, my man.

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:50 AM

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Originally posted by ecgordon:

Frak you, Chris.
... it even had plenty of 'splosions for the more intellectually challenged such as you. You go on and on about what I consider crap shows so I don't take your opinion too seriously most of the time.

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Frak you indeed, my man.

Wow. Peeps make fun of Dark Angel big time, and I don't let loose the dogs of war like this.

I will consider myself frakked.

The brow-beaten Chrisisall

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 7:06 AM

SUASOR

I liked the way Caprica filled in the details of the BSG world. The new one will be only about a decade in the future, and many of the Caprica characters will still be alive. So there are opportunities to finish the Caprica story. Heh, this may make the Caprica DVD set a big seller.

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 7:53 AM

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Originally posted by ecgordon:

Frak you, Chris.
... it even had plenty of 'splosions for the more intellectually challenged such as you. You go on and on about what I consider crap shows so I don't take your opinion too seriously most of the time.

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Frak you indeed, my man.

Wow. Peeps make fun of Dark Angel big time, and I don't let loose the dogs of war like this.

I will consider myself frakked.

The brow-beaten Chrisisall

Sure, I've made a bit of fun of it, but I also watched it, in it's entirety before doing so. And I'm not enough of a dick that I'd actually celebrate it's cancellation in a thread where people who like the show are discussing it.

Wait till Chuck gets the axe, I'll be there with bells to make you feel worse.

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:33 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
I'm not enough of a dick that I'd actually celebrate it's cancellation in a thread where people who like the show are discussing it.

Sorry. I was out of line, and I apologize.

The sincere Chrisisall

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:31 AM

CALHOUN

Caprica was felgercarb.. Ron Moore can go frack himself after the way he ended BSG.

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:42 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I really like Eric Stoltz.

Oddly, so do I.

Huh.

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:48 AM

I, for one, am sorry to see it go. I was not a fan of the pacing (especially when they would jump around from character to character then suddenly find ourselves in the middle of something and - well, find myself scratching my head as to where we were in the story).

I was more of fan of the virtual world (and not for what one may describe as action) because of the storyline, which was interesting - the afterlife or, more to the point, immortality. The story was poorly developed and executed. I expected more from Jane. It's not surprising that it was cancelled, but I did like elements, my only complaint being that the story was not served well. Too much jumping around and following each storyline without resolution or, at the very least, dovetailing, interweaving of plot lines.

It was ambitious to a fault. I agree that Eric Stoltz gave til he bled, but it wasn't enough.
The next series will probably meet the same fate.

SGG

Tawabawho?

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:47 PM

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Storymark:
I'm not enough of a dick that I'd actually celebrate it's cancellation in a thread where people who like the show are discussing it.

Sorry. I was out of line, and I apologize.

Thanks for the apology. It's one thing to not like a show and give a reasoned argument for your point, quite another to come onto a thread and boldly say it's a s**t show or it sucks. You're not a troll, so don't start acting like one.

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:04 PM

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You're not a troll

I occasionally lose my mind. I can stray into troll territory periodically. I make the mistake that my opinion is the most important thing, but it's just one of many.

If I venerate Battle For The Planet Of The Apes, who am I to denigrate SF works that strive for real substance?

In the end, we're all just folk.

The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:42 PM

BROWNISHCOAT

I never watched Caprica - gave up on the new BSG after season 2.

Still, I feel bad for SyFy.

FYI, I love Warehouse 13

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Friday, November 5, 2010 3:18 PM

Caprica was pretty much my favorite show on Syfy. I like the pacing and the character development - both in-world and virtual.
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I was not a fan of their overall pacing, but I did like the character development and I thought they hit on a good storyline with the virtual world, but then it went nowhere. Very frustrating too was their jumping from storyline to storyline trying to cover all and never really getting much across. One exception the story of Joseph looking for his daughter in the virtual world.

Otherwise I was a fan hoping that the writers would really let loose. I really thought it was doing well, but it didn't help that SyFy decided to break up Season 1. Oh well......sorry to see it go.

SGG

Tawabawho?

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Friday, November 5, 2010 3:46 PM

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

To compound my frustration, the Space Channel in Canada has the rights to air the five remaining episodes, and Ep. 14 was broadcast Tuesday night at the same time it would have been on in the US if SyFy hadn't canceled it. On top of that, I have not been able to find a torrent of it.

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 3:26 AM

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Not enough sex and humor. Cylons apparently have neither.

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Saturday, November 6, 2010 5:16 PM

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First Keith Olbermann gets fired, now Caprica. Or was it vice versa?

Either way, Republicons can't have Christians named as terrorists. Everybody knows only Muslims do that.

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Sunday, November 7, 2010 11:14 AM

RIVER6213

At first I didn't like Caprica and had something bad to say about every episode except the last 4 because I was so fed up I stopped watching them. Then I heard about the show being canceled so I went back to Amazon.com video on demand and downloaded the episodes I hadn't seen, and then watched everything from start to the last episode.

I must admit the show actually was starting to get interesting, and maybe I was wrong about it being a bad show.

-River

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Sunday, November 7, 2010 1:21 PM

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

It was slow for the first few episodes after the pilot, but picked up nicely by the end of the first half, then everything since the hiatus has been very good. Episode 14 is finally available, so I assume anyone interested will know how to find it. Definitely could not complain about not enough action in this one.

I still don't understand why SyFy couldn't air the last five eps as planned even if they didn't intend to renew it. The way they've handled it is a slap in the face to not only the fans, but also to Ron Moore and David Eick, Jane Espenson, Drew Z. Greenburg, and all the other writers, actors and crew. I can't imagine that they think reruns of ST: TNG and Hollywood Treasure will bring better ratings.

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Sunday, November 7, 2010 4:34 PM

KWICKO

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I still don't understand why SyFy couldn't air the last five eps as planned even if they didn't intend to renew it. The way they've handled it is a slap in the face to not only the fans, but also to Ron Moore and David Eick, Jane Espenson, Drew Z. Greenburg, and all the other writers, actors and crew. I can't imagine that they think reruns of ST: TNG and Hollywood Treasure will bring better ratings.

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd pin it on "DVD sales". They might be thinking that whatever ad time they had sold is already sold for the timeslot, so why not hold the eps hostage and make the fans who really want to see them PAY to see them. Just a thought. It's TV - they don't care about content or quality, only the money.

Since we're not likely to get any closure, I won't be buying the DVD set anytime soon, if ever. And I've been burned buy Syfy/SciFi enough times now that I'll likely not give them any more chances.

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Monday, November 8, 2010 6:12 AM

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Originally posted by ecgordon:

I still don't understand why SyFy couldn't air the last five eps as planned even if they didn't intend to renew it.

They are going to air them, just in January, when they were originally scheduled, before they pushed things up to October.

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Monday, November 8, 2010 6:13 AM

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First Keith Olbermann gets fired, now Caprica. Or was it vice versa?

Either way, Republicons can't have Christians named as terrorists. Everybody knows only Muslims do that.

It was vice versa, and Olbermann wasn't fired - will be back on air tomorrow night.

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Monday, November 8, 2010 3:39 PM

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

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Originally posted by Storymark:
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Originally posted by ecgordon:

I still don't understand why SyFy couldn't air the last five eps as planned even if they didn't intend to renew it.

They are going to air them, just in January, when they were originally scheduled, before they pushed things up to October.

Yeah, I know that, but I meant why couldn't they have continued showing it on Tuesdays for the next five weeks. November is sweeps month for most of the major networks, but for SyFy they aren't running anything so special that they can expect any better ratings than Caprica would have got. There have been several other series the past few years (Flash Gordon and Painkiller Jane come to mind) that they allowed to air all of the produced episodes in order even though they had already made the decision not to renew. Just five more eps of Caprica...would that have been so hard to do?

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Monday, November 8, 2010 4:26 PM

If the ratings are low enough, even running reruns of some crap like Ghost Hunters is more profitable. Thus, bump.

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Monday, November 8, 2010 5:31 PM

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

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If the ratings are low enough, even running reruns of some crap like Ghost Hunters is more profitable. Thus, bump.

You're no fun. Stop bringing logic into this argument.

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Tuesday, November 9, 2010 7:09 AM

Lol. Sorry.

I find applying a bit of the business logic takes out some of the sting of losing a cool show, but I realize that doesn't work for everyone.

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Tuesday, November 9, 2010 11:20 AM

STEGASAURUS

I'm really sad to see this show go.

I was just getting real excited with it when they started showing more of Teryl Rothery.

Dr. Janet Frasier is my wife in my fantasies.

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Friday, January 7, 2011 3:33 PM

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Great end of the series, tied up all the loose ends...for a change.

But why play all epps on the same day?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Caprica_episodes [spoilers]
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Friday, January 7, 2011 3:36 PM

Probably just to get them out of the way, to air higher rated junk in it's place. Also, doing it as a marathon makes it an event for fans, making them more likely to watch en masse.

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Friday, January 7, 2011 3:46 PM

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Storymark:

Probably just to get them out of the way, to air higher rated junk in it's place. Also, doing it as a marathon makes it an event for fans, making them more likely to watch en masse.

But one episode got lost in DVR Hell, so now I must watch it hunched over Hulu. I'm only allowed to watch video on HughesNet sat between 2-7am, or service is throttled to 1kbs.

4 hours was too much marathon for me.

Great animation. I think I'll be taking a class on that this summer. I'm trying to take a class in Adobe After Effects this semester. Frakkin classes now cost $500 each, plus software!

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Friday, January 14, 2011 4:02 PM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

Chris, it was good of you to apologize. My ego sometimes gets in the way of me doing that. You are an example to us all.

I enjoyed Caprica. More as I continued to watch it. It wasn't always what we consider an 'exciting' show but it had good drama, sufficient action, character development, and it studied morality in a satisfying way.

Moreover, like BSG before it, it had quality.

Some people doubtless did not care for its specific qualities, but I don't think there are many who would argue against it being a quality show. One had the impression while watching it that it had been crafted by people who really cared. It felt like art to me.

I am a Trekkie, but in remembering some Trek episodes, I recall that some of them did seem thrown-together without much thought. Writing was sometimes very lazy. Acting was sometimes cringeworthy. The best Trek is art. The worst Trek was... lamentable.

But the quality of BSG and Caprica (two very different kinds of show) were both very high to me. Yes, the shows had low points and high points, but they never faltered in what I consider to be a catastrophic way. I felt that every frame was put together in a way that made it art.

Firefly also had Quality. Every frame oozed it.

Quality. That's what these shows had. That's something hard to find nowadays. I will miss it.

--Anthony

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Saturday, January 15, 2011 1:04 AM

Easy EC, you know Chris likes to stir the pot every once and when.
But you're right, the show was a bit slowed-paced even for this Firefly Fan. There are some that would call our beloved show a bit "slow paced," but I digress.

In setting up the premise and overall dynamics, perhaps the writers could have moved things along. I agree that Eric Stoltz did his best work ever (he was fantastic as the mad scientist/father), I liked the girl (his daughter Zoe) and the brother Sam Adama. But the development of these characters was painfully slow, to me, and it distracted from the main theme (IMHO).

BTW the last 5 episodes were frakking awesome, and this, to me, is what could have been throughout the first season. There were times when they would introduce a storyline but then it would fizzle out and they would go in a new direction. The storyline with Amanda Graystone and her dead brother had me completely baffled, it went nowhere. What did it have to do with the rest of it. There was no connection (at least I didn't see it and I watched each show relgiously).

There was the storyline with Tamara Adama, which I really began to get into, faded. For several episodes - nothing. I was thoroughly disappointed. But I thought the whole religion aspect of the story was interesting and dynamic, subtlely commenting on our different belief systems and the morality of killing in "Gods" name. The battle between tech and non-tech modes of behavior, the soul, etc. The show entertained and made you think - What a concept! A show that actually makes you think - ahhh, sci-fi.

SGG

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:23 AM

RIVER6213

The last few episodes of Caprica were getting really good to the point that now I'm sorry for writing all those mean posts in the forums about the show over at SyFy.com. The show started showing promise when it got canceled.

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Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:35 PM

DREAMTROVE

Sad, a blow to Jane Espenson as well. I think the show was stuck in a spin cycle in the middle there where the through story needed to move along. You have to have some momentum to grab the audience.

I also missed the humor from her Buffy days. She has a real talent there. Probably Ron Moore and co. weren't interested.

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Sunday, January 30, 2011 7:51 PM