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Disney’s dilemma

It’s a lesson that Disney learned in the wake of the pandemic.

Both Walt Disney Animation and Pixar struggled to regain a foothold at the box office after pandemic restrictions lessened and audiences returned to theaters. Much of this was due to the fact that Disney opted to debut a handful of animated features directly on streaming service Disney+ during theatrical closures and even once cinemas had reopened.

The company sought to pad the company’s fledgling streaming service with content, stretching its creative teams thin and sending theatrical movies straight to digital.

That dynamic trained parents to seek out new Disney titles on streaming, not in theaters, even when Disney opted to return its films to the big screen.

As a result of that and other challenges, no Disney animated feature from Pixar or Walt Disney Animation has generated more than $480 million at the global box office since 2019. For comparison, just before the pandemic, “Coco” generated $796 million globally, while “Incredibles 2? tallied $1.24 billion globally, and “Toy Story 4” snared $1.07 billion globally.

Box office experts are looking to “Inside Out 2” as a barometer for the health of Pixar and its future. If the film can capture attention from audiences and perform well over its opening weekend and beyond, the animation studios will regain goodwill from audiences and the industry.

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As long as they didn't put a chick in it and make her gay it should do OK BUT, because the last few Disney/Pixar flicks were woke crap they may have lost some costumers for good. Once you lose a costumer they stay gone.

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As long as they didn't put a chick in it and make her gay it should do OK BUT, because the last few Disney/Pixar flicks were woke crap they may have lost some costumers for good. Once you lose a costumer they stay gone.

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Customer, not costumer, a person or company that makes or supplies theatrical or fancy-dress costumes. I wouldn't expect a Trumptard like whozit to know that, especially one who uses the word "woke" and complains about gay characters. Still, the Trumptards probably insist they aren't prejudiced or racist or Nazis when they obviously are.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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I'm pretty sure those paint throwing Jew haters are NOT Trump supporters. The new Dr. Who and the new Star Wars show 'The Acolyte' are both bombing because the fans have left because they're both woke AND over doing gay story lines, are the fans who left all Nazis too?

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As long as they didn't put a chick in it and make her gay it should do OK BUT, because the last few Disney/Pixar flicks were woke crap they may have lost some costumers for good. Once you lose a costumer they stay gone.

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Customer, not costumer, a person or company that makes or supplies theatrical or fancy-dress costumes. I wouldn't expect a Trumptard like whozit to know that, especially one who uses the word "woke" and complains about gay characters. Still, the Trumptards probably insist they aren't prejudiced or racist or Nazis when they obviously are.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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I'm pretty sure those paint throwing Jew haters are NOT Trump supporters. The new Dr. Who and the new Star Wars show 'The Acolyte' are both bombing because the fans have left because they're both woke AND over doing gay story lines, are the fans who left all Nazis too?

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Bruce put his predictions article out very early today.

His model says it will make $121 Million this weekend. He says it could make between $100 Million and $131 Million. This is in the US alone.

If any of that is right, and if the Domestic/International split is the same as the first movie from 2015, this movie will have made somewhere in the area of $50 Million more than the budget by the end of the weekend.

He notes that this weekend's box office would be the best since Barbie's 3rd weekend in theaters last year.

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Does this cartoon have Gay Robot Dog in it?
Or Lesbian Purple Dog?
How about Androgenous Trans Superwoman?

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Keep lying to everyone about everything related to the economy that you can't stop lying about all the way up until election day and see where it gets ya.
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I doubt Trump influences the Worldwide Box Office since he never was World President.

Movie Comparison:
Inside Out 2 (2024)
vs. Kung Fu Panda 4 (2024)
vs. The Garfield Movie (2024)
vs. Elemental (2023)

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Inside-
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How insipid can you be?

I'm fair certain that anybody with a brain noticed how every advanced economy in the world was gangbusters in 2018 and 2019.

Just like how they all tanked since Lord Darth Obiden stole the election.

Trump really was a World Leader, and market based economies knew it.

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I do believe that Second might be thinking that we're rooting for Disney.

I do believe that Second is confused.



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Pretty sure at this point a $250 Million worldwide opening weekend is going to be easy here. Without previews included, Friday's take in the US alone was $49 Million according to Disney's projections. I'm going to bet it blows past Bruce's high end of $130 Million for the weekend in the US and does over $155 Million.

This might actually pull in something like $300 Million+ worldwide when the legit numbers are in on Monday.

Not only might will this be the best performing Disney movie since Guardians of the Galaxy: Volume 3 early last year, but it might be more successful than anything they put out in 2023, period.

It IS the first non-woke movie Disney's made in over a year, so they do have that going for them. Probably not a great idea to put in your face anxiety issues in the heads of 5 year old kids though. I don't think they've got any shortage of that in today's world without Disney/Pixar needing to push the issue further.

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Movie Comparison: Inside Out 2 (2024) vs. Inside Out (2015)

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Inside-Out-2-(20
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If you overlook the inflation adjustment, only $555,000,000 separates the two movies.

Worldwide Box Office $295,000,000 $850,566,343

The inflation adjustment is $1.00 in 2015 (when the first cartoon arrived) equals $1.33 in 2024.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

Inside Out 2 (2024) will have to sell $1,100,000,000 worth of tickets to match Inside Out (2015) $850,000,000 worth of tickets.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Inside Out 2 is blasting past expectations and headed towards a $155-million opening, according to Disney’s Sunday-morning announcement. That’s comfortably more than the $146.4 million The Super Mario Bros. Movie made on its opening weekend last year, and second only to Incredibles 2 on the list of biggest opening weekends for animated movies. The Incredibles sequel opened with $182.7 million back in 2018. Mario ended its domestic run with almost $575 million, and Incredibles 2 finished its run with $608.6 million. With stellar reviews, Inside Out 2 seems like a lock for $500 million, and $600 million at the domestic box office seems within reach.

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Not only might will this be the best performing Disney movie since Guardians of the Galaxy: Volume 3 early last year, but it might be more successful than anything they put out in 2023, period.

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Unless this movie unexpectedly tanks before Despicable Me 4 comes out on July 3rd, I think it will end up more successful than anything Disney put out last year.

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Unless this movie unexpectedly tanks before Despicable Me 4 comes out on July 3rd, I think it will end up more successful than anything Disney put out last year.

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During show-and-tell at school, four minutes into the movie there is this immortally woke line: "Did you know that change in your couch could change the world?" Then the glass jar of quarters, dimes, nickles, pennies is dropped. Everyone laughs at the mess, except the mortified little girl and Riley, the main character. Then they bond while picking up coins. Then an African American girl also helps pick up the coins and they bond. More wokeness. So wholesome. But where are the car crashes? Where are the explosions? Where are the murderous villains forcing children into sex-slavery? (A reference to "Sound of Freedom" [2023]) Where is THE BLOOD?

The super profitable movie Sound of Freedom Production Budget: $14,500,000 (worldwide box office is 17.3 times production budget). Why aren't Disney movies more profitable? Because of wokeness! Because of Joe Biden! Only Trump can fix it and save America from wokeness and the climate change hoax! Don't let Disney and Biden* take away our guns and freedom!
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Sound-of-Freedom-(2023)#tab=summary

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
No news on actual international numbers, but the US numbers actually dipped when the real numbers came in.

US: $154,201,673
International: $140,000,000
Worldwide Box Office: $294,201,673

I was really hoping that they'd both get bumped up to make my $300 Million+ worldwide prediction come true.

I wonder why they lowballed the US prediction here. I called it last year when they pulled that on purpose to spare additional headline embarrassment with both The Marvels and Wish, but really it's so out of the ordinary to ever see this happen, especially with a successful movie.

It's still possible it climbs over $300 after the internationals come in since there tends to be a lot more variance there.

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Inside Out 2 is now 8th place in the 2024 Worldwide Top 100, and was after only 3 days.

It will pass Article 20 (China) tomorrow for 7th place, and it will take 6th place from Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes on Wednesday, it's 6th day in theaters.


When Internationals come in on Monday the 24th, it will be 2nd place for 2024. Probably somewhere in the general area of only $80 Million behind Dune: Part Two for 1st place.

It will then take 1st place on Friday the 28th.

(The fact we won't get internationals for Friday as they happen, this might not be reflected until the US numbers come in for Saturday the 29th).

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Its next two steps up the ladder are the Chinese movies Pegasus 2 ($469,847,217 / 5th place) and YOLO ($479,597,304 / 4th place).


I'm expecting another $150 Million to $175 Million internationally alone, come Monday, so without the weekend even starting it's already leapfrogged over both of them. It's still going to make at least $40 Million more in the US on Wednesday and Thursday before the weekend begins, putting it right around $420 Million before any weekend numbers get added.

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Disney Pixar may avoid going bankrupt but what of other big studios that have lots and lots of flops?

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‘Inside Out 2’ Jumps To $439M Worldwide, Sets Record Openings In Italy, Spain & More – International Box Office

https://deadline.com/2024/06/inside-out-2-global-international-box-off
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Movie Comparison: Inside Out 2 (2024) vs. Inside Out (2015)

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Inside-Out-2-(20
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If you overlook the inflation adjustment, only $555,000,000 separates the two movies.

Worldwide Box Office $295,000,000 $850,566,343

The inflation adjustment is $1.00 in 2015 (when the first cartoon arrived) equals $1.33 in 2024.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

Inside Out 2 (2024) will have to sell $1,100,000,000 worth of tickets to match Inside Out (2015) $850,000,000 worth of tickets.

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Inside Out 2 is blasting past expectations and headed towards a $155-million opening, according to Disney’s Sunday-morning announcement. That’s comfortably more than the $146.4 million The Super Mario Bros. Movie made on its opening weekend last year, and second only to Incredibles 2 on the list of biggest opening weekends for animated movies. The Incredibles sequel opened with $182.7 million back in 2018. Mario ended its domestic run with almost $575 million, and Incredibles 2 finished its run with $608.6 million. With stellar reviews, Inside Out 2 seems like a lock for $500 million, and $600 million at the domestic box office seems within reach.

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If it hits $600 Million in the US, it almost assuredly makes $1.1 Billion worldwide. The only thing it has working against it is that the ratio of Domestic to International so far is 52.5%/47.5%, while the first movie ended with 41.9%/58.1%. Otherwise, $500 Million in the US would have easily got it past that number.

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Disney is projecting that Inside Out 2 will hit $100 million this weekend, although just barely (their projection is exactly $100 million). If it hits that milestone, it would be only the seventh film to do so, and the first since the pandemic—Barbie currently holds the post-pandemic record with $93 million. Meanwhile, The Bikeriders is doing respectable business on debut, and no less than three other new films will make the top 10.

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Inside Out 2’s hold is nothing short of spectacular. After its opening weekend, our model predicted a final domestic total of $455 million for the film, based on comparable openings. Its new prediction this morning is $558 million, and something well beyond that remains a possibility. After a slow May, this is exactly the boost the market needed.

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If it hits the $1.1 Billion that Second told us it needs to make to beat the first movie after considering inflation, which I am very confident that it will, the worldwide gross vs. production budget will be in the area of 550%, which would move it all the way up to #15 on my list for 2023.

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It's already at $761,854,032 Worldwide, with $13 Million more on Monday in the US.

Bruce must have found even more international money.

It will easily have hit $800 Million before the weekend.



I did mention a while back that it would be possible to see on Monday that it was 1st place for 2024.

I was so wrapped up yesterday in how this was performing compared to 2023 movies I hadn't realized that this was the case.

It only took 10 days in the theaters for Inside Out 2 to become the highest grossing movie in the world for 2024.

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Inside Out 2 has very little to worry about in its 3rd weekend, and it doesn't need to make $77 Million with only a -24% drop to take 1st place either.

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