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How long before foreign movies and foreign language tv outsell Hollywood movies / tv

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Saturday, July 6, 2024 7:52 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Hollywood is dying and almost nobody working in the industry will admit it
DVDs almost died and that industry allowed a lot of films that were doing ok at the box office an opportunity to recover any lost profits.
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How long before foreign films and foreign language television outsells Hollywood movies / tv in North American theatrical releases?..maybe not anymore since Trump is placing tariff sanction on film in attempt to save perverted Hollyweird

How long before Mexican Spanish movies or Hindu Street Shitters start to outsell Hollywood movies in North American theatrical releases?
For some reason Hollywood refuses to support indie American film makers

Canada seems done as a film location, Canada for a while it did good providing location for US shows and movies. Hollyweird as a culture has crashed, there have been foreign waves that beat Hollywood before, the French, the Japanese Samurai movies, the Italian-American spaghetti Western, HK Kungfu films, then J-horror, Korean tv a return of anime and Chinese films arriving. Then we had 'RRR' a 2022 Indian Telugu-language epic.

but now there are too many factors are lined up against the California crowd


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Thursday, July 18, 2024 6:03 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Big Fx and explosive space effects and CGI but very shallow like a Zack Snyder movie

Bollywood has been around a while and India does have good movies but this one is strange
the Hindu Street Shitters don't always make what people note as 'Art'
even foreign mediocrity with no real story or message can compete against Hollyweird

'Kalki 2898 AD' Tops India's Box Office Chart For First Half Of 2024, Contributing 15% Of Box Office

https://deadline.com/2024/07/kalki-2898-ad-india-box-office-report-123
6012524/

20 Spanish TV Shows You Can Watch this Second
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/20-spanish-tv-shows-watch-01000036
3.html




Look at how good Chuck did it





some online NPC bots are blabbing about Kill Hindi I have not seen many Hindi Indian at Kickboxing, MMA, Judo, UFC, Wrestling, Karate, Boxing...they do the dance thing but for me the martial arts thing is a hard sell and I'm not really buying it in some of their movies, in real life sports they are terrible at winning Gold in the Olympics...screen presence, the stage and movement and stardom?

Arnie had terrible English when he started but he made it part of his thing, I liked some Thai stuff but they did not sell to the English speaking audience, Chuck Norris, Donnie Yen, Bruce Lee, Wesley Snipes, Dolph Lundgren, Ray Park, Randy Couture, Stallone, Toshiro Mifune, Jackie Chan, Van Damme some are real fighters they got in the ring and took hits and others are martial arts stage but they can all sell action that looks ok on screen
nobody will tell you Jack Dempsey can not sell strength and action in old film real like Mr Broadway or Daredevil Jack 1920 they look tough, that guy can throw a punch
Mike Tex Cobb or Mike Tyson are filmed where their physical skills come out and look the real deal. Although 'Charles Bronson' just looked tough a fighter even if he was not a martial arts guy, some of the Actors in epics like Spartacus could sell their role. Burt Lancaster and Paul Newman were very physical guys in their youth even if they were not martial arts guys, in the USA the stars are dying?


Actor Steve Reeves was already a beast and known as a 'Strongman' freakshow. Dwyane the Rock Johson, Dave Bautista and Hulk Hogan were Wrestler monsters but I'm not sure if Hulk Hogan was much as an actor in live action movies it seemed very Wrestlemania like.
Shaquille O'Neal does not need to do much to look big and tough but his skills as an actor are poor, Actors like Russell Crowe is another who just looks tough and mean a New Zealand and Australia actor.
Something also changed in the late 1960s era of film, and early 70s of Hollywood once Bruce Lee arrived you were expected to kick a bit, judo, knees and elbows, a real martial art street fight and an actor had to do more than throw a haymaker punch, the old action heroes of the 1940s could no longer do it in the new era of hand to hand stunts, a lot of it is still carefully timed behind the scenes camera work and choreography and stunt teams.
but I'm not really getting the Hindi Fight thing, some countries have it some actors have it physically but are missing the lines and 'screen presence' Tony Jaa was ok from Thailand but lacked the actor ability never going beyond stunt actor.

the new men of Hollywood look effeminate, theater stage guys. Is it so bad they have to bring Stallone out of retirement to make tough guy movies?

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Monday, July 22, 2024 5:51 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Some stunts


Modern Masters: S. S. Rajamouli

Official Trailer


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Tuesday, February 11, 2025 12:19 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Hollywood is currently knocked out of the top ten not just by Chinese films but also by SKorean and Russian box office

LA is not just burnt and ash but the industry is dead?


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Tuesday, February 11, 2025 1:29 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


To be fair, we really don't release anything decent this early in the year, and the studios seem happy to ride whatever coattails they have left from the final releases of the year before. The 2nd highest grossing movie of 2025 is only $53 Million right now, so all of those other Russian and Spanish movies will be bumped down into the 30's and 40's very quickly in the coming months.

But it is going to be funny watching that Top List in 2025. It won't be until summertime before the US even has a shot to beat that Chinese flick. And if said flick grosses over $1.6 Billion like they're predicting it will, there's a somewhat decent chance that this movie stays at 1st place all year long.

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Wednesday, February 12, 2025 6:08 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
To be fair, we really don't release anything decent this early in the year, and the studios seem happy to ride whatever coattails they have left from the final releases of the year before.


I would disagree with this, in the good years Hollywood often had cult hits at this time of year and would make box office money also, cheap low budget indie films in Jan-Feb but also some Box Office hits

The Lego Movie, Sonic, M3GAN, Spider-Man No Way Home, Aquaman, Rogue One Star Wars, The Book of Eli, LOTR, Scream

the market however has changed, maybe it started crashing in 2015-ish?

also budgets for movies are insane these days

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Sunday, March 9, 2025 8:36 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Hollywood struggles overseas

but winners?

not Thailand

The sad story of Thai films struggling at the box office
https://www.nationthailand.com/life/entertainment/40047171

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Saturday, March 22, 2025 4:01 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Indians might have the demographic to take over Canadian film

that is assuming they spend cash in Canada and don't send it all back home

Indian language films take centre stage at reopened Winnipeg cinema
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/indian-language-films-garden-c
ity-winnipeg-1.7473601

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Tuesday, March 25, 2025 5:44 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


RRR Turns 3 Years, it seems this will be the year that Hollywood could be defeated

Indian Action Film ‘Martin’ Scores International Distribution Deals for Indywood at Hong Kong FilMart
https://variety.com/2025/global/news/martin-international-distribution
-deals-1236340099/

and Hollyweird already gave Oscars to 2024 Spanish-language French musical transexual crime film ...so I guess that's like the Soccer thing of scoring an own goal?

then tweets came out with controversial 'Nazi' comments?
‘Emilia Pérez’ Star Apologizes for he / she / it comments on something?

‘Emilia Peréz’ star Karla Sofía Gascón on dealing with racist tweets controversy: “I contemplated the unthinkable”
https://www.nme.com/news/film/emilia-perez-star-karla-sofia-gascon-on-
dealing-with-racist-tweets-controversy-i-contemplated-the-unthinkable-3844835

the Oscars, a shitshow nobody watches anymore




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Saturday, April 5, 2025 7:11 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


more on that Spanish transexual drama thing

Madonna 'secretly supporting' actress Karla Sofía Gascón after 'racist' tweets shame
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/madonna-secretly-supportin
g-actress-karla-34804871

How an Indian action icon broke into Hollywood — and the Oscar race — with 'RRR'

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/indian-action-icon-broke-hollywood
-180157371.html

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Thursday, May 8, 2025 4:11 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


the Hindi India patriot films?

in reality they get fighter jets shot down by Pakistan

well there is an Indian version of TopGun

Fighter (2024)
https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/784651

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Thursday, May 8, 2025 5:22 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
the Hindi India patriot films?

in reality they get fighter jets shot down by Pakistan

well there is an Indian version of TopGun

Fighter (2024)
https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/784651



I can't tell because I'm not up on local politics.

Did they have the balls to name real-life enemies and hostile foreign countries in their movie, or did they puss out like the makers of Top Gun II did and just make it some nebulous possibly Russian, possibly Eastern European, possibly army from alternate dimension enemy force?



Don't get me wrong. I liked Top Gun II. But it's hard to really get invested too deeply in a movie that's taking itself more seriously than Starship Troopers, but has the most generic bad guys you could put on the screen.

Top Gun II proves that with the right people involved you can still make a good movie that includes a lot of combat with a generic enemy force, but not too many of them can pull something like that off.

How many Marvel villains do you remember or care about? Outside of Joker, who really cares about any of DC's villains? Lex Luthor is so played out by now but Superman hasn't put out decent flick since I was born and outside of Smallville he's never really gotten a fair shake on the screen. I fucking love Gene Hackman's portrayal of Lex, but most people I know hated it and I can admit objectively why that is. That was Gene Hackman playing Gene Hackman playing Lex Luthor and having a ton of fun with the role.


In my mind, the only real good villain I've seen outside of the Spiderman franchise in the last 15 years was Killgrave from season 1 of Jessica Jones. And to this day I still say that, outside of the Spiderman franchise and the pre-Afflek era Batman franchise, Jessica Jones season 1 is the best piece of Super Hero media that they've put out there.

I'm pretty sure that they did a great job with Thanos too, or else those movies would not have done anywhere near as well as they did. I never saw the last two Avengers movies though, so I can't really speak to it. Everything I heard about the character and his motivations sound like the building blocks for a great adversary.



One of these days maybe I should watch this movie...?

I'm kind of interested in seeing what kinds of lessons that an outfit like "Bollywood" have learned. Not just from Hollywood, but navigating their own culture, pop culture and politics and how that's reflected in their movies.

Is this just a generic action movie to the max, or do they have something to say?

And going in there not knowing much about Indian culture, would I even catch what they were throwing if they did have messaging in there?



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Friday, May 9, 2025 8:46 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


some positive news from the propaganda world of Britbongistan

BBC licence fee 'could be scrapped' due to Trump's Hollywood protectionist tariffs
https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/bbc-licence-fee-could-scrapped-35192375

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:


Is this just a generic action movie to the max, or do they have something to say?



Have not seen their TopGun

'RRR' is ok if you can put up with people breaking out into random Dance Performances




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Saturday, May 10, 2025 2:32 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Korean Crime Thriller

https://www.slashfilm.com/1853785/korean-crime-thriller-decision-to-le
ave-streaming-hulu/

"Decision to Leave" is now streaming on Hulu

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Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:33 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I agree with Disparu on this issue. Trump is making a mistake trying to save Hollywood.



I do think it's a funny troll though. After relentless attacks from idiot actors and other idiots out of Hollywood, Trump is the guy trying to save their collective asses.



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Wednesday, June 11, 2025 7:29 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


there was an attempt by Trump to ban foreign film like Dan Da Dan Evil Eye 2025?


people dont expect 'Demon Slayer' numbers but Japanese are still pushing their cartoon thing



'DanDaDan' Shatters Its Own Record at the Domestic Box Office With New Movie 'Evil Eye'

MBS-Tv JOOY-DTV channel 4, or Mainichi Broadcasting System

over $3 million in the U.S.

https://gkids.com/2025/05/15/tickets-on-sale-and-new-trailer-released-
fordan-da-dan-evil-eye-north-american-theatrical-release/

Running time 93 minutes Country Japan, Language Japanese

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Monday, June 30, 2025 8:16 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Squid Game 3 - Spoiler Review


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Wednesday, July 2, 2025 9:25 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


AMC works really hard to make going to the movies terrible

By Colette Bennett | July 1, 2025

https://www.thestreet.com/entertainment/amc-works-really-hard-to-make-
going-to-the-movies-terrible

As streaming media has exploded in popularity over the past few decades, fewer and fewer people have seen the point of getting into the car and going to the movie theater.

Despite being a beloved activity that people have adored for well over a hundred years, going to the movies really isn't what it used to be.

Add up the price of a ticket or two, overpriced concessions, the cost of driving to and from the theater — not to mention the high possibility of loud groups of kids who don't mind talking over the entire movie — and it's just not appealing.

The pandemic hit movie theaters hard, and although America has recovered, the movie theater industry hasn't.

Typically it made between 10 and 11 billion a year before 2020, but since then, it hasn't exceeded more than 8 billion, per data from Box Office Mojo.

One way theaters coped with getting people back in theater seats was to entice them with limited-edition merchandise like themed popcorn buckets, which actually did wonders for their bottom line. AMC alone raked in $65 million from sales of this merchandise.

Now AMC has a new idea to change the theater experience. But unlike its innovative collectible popcorn buckets, this will actually add yet another reason to justify staying home on the couch with Netflix.

Your movie date just got longer

We all go to the movies expecting to see trailers before the show starts, and some people even like it that way, knowing if they're running a bit late, they won't miss the main event.

AMC has decided this is a good thing, and as of July 1, will now show more pre-movie ads than ever, including "as much as" a whopping five minutes of commercials, as well as a new ad called a "Platinum Spot" that will play before the last few movie trailers you see.

Trailers and other promotions can mean the movie doesn't start for 25-30 minutes, according to the AMC website.

The advertising decision comes as the result of an agreement AMC made with the National CineMedia ad network, which is the largest of its kind in the U.S.

Back in 2019, AMC declined using these ads, despite the fact other chains such as Regal adopted them, saying it believed that moviegoers would react "quite negatively" to them.

But it has since pivoted, saying in a June Bloomberg interview, “While AMC was initially reluctant to bring this to our theaters, our competitors have fully participated for more than five years without any direct impact to their attendance."

Why AMC is making this move

AMC has had its share of struggles over the past few years. While it's been slowly recovering since the pandemic, 2024 didn't pan out so well, with AMC reporting a decline in revenue in 2024's Q3 and an attendance decline.

AMC also announced on July 1 that it had entered into a new agreement with its creditors, which will provide $223 million of new money financing that will be used to refinance its debt.

The agreement will also allow AMC to equitize at least $143 million of its current debt, and has the potential to allow the company to equitize as much at $337 million.

Commenters on social media did not take well to the news of the new ads.

"I would like to warn AMC to expect 25-30 years of me never coming back to their theaters," said X user TexasPharmD.

"Just another reason to avoid the movies," X user Laz252 said.

"Stop. I like how they want more people to watch movies, but they're also still making the experience worse," X user 360 No One said.

By Colette Bennett

Colette Bennett is a multi-faceted writer that covers retail, tech, entertainment, and more. Before joining TheStreet, Colette was a Senior Producer for Yahoo! Finance, and prior to that, a reporter for CNN. Also a novelist, her debut "Enter the Meta" is now available via Simon & Schuster.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, September 20, 2025 5:59 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


'Lost' Creator Damon Lindelof Says He Won't Work With Disney, ABC Again if Kimmel Suspension Is Not Lifted
https://www.thewrap.com/damon-lindelof-jimmy-kimmel-abc-suspension-wor
k-pledge/

Andor’ Writer Dan Gilroy On Disney Suspending Jimmy Kimmel & Hollywood Facing Venomous Evil
https://deadline.com/2025/09/andor-dan-gilroy-jimmy-kimmel-commentary-
1236549627/

Jay Leno Voices Support For Jimmy Kimmel
https://deadline.com/2025/09/jay-leno-jimmy-kimmel-1236549598/


Public Australia and Australian Government tax funded the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, back in the 1930s before the war it would source cable news from around the world for example London.

ABC USA is a different company, NBC Blue Network, Lincoln Square Productions, Disney.

'America is not happy' US ABC under fire for pulling Jimmy Kimmel Live! as shown in complaints sent to ABC Australia
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-20/complaints-about-kimmel-axing-m
eant-for-us-abc-sent-to-australia/105793428

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Sunday, September 21, 2025 3:33 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Will the Sundance Institute get higher viewers than the Oscars with the Sundance Festival, it is the largest independent film festival in the United States, with 423,234 combined in-person and online viewership in 2023.


Love from both left news and right news, Robert Redford, one of the Last of the Greats Sundance Kid turned Sundance indie film seeing how important independent film would be.

Robert Redford the Activist: Hollywood Icon Was Lifelong Champion of Environment & Independent Film
https://www.democracynow.org/2025/9/17/rip_robert_redford

From ‘Sundance Kid’ to activist, Robert Redford’s legacy as a cinema icon
https://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/2025/0916/robert-redford-legacy

Ethan Hawke hails Robert Redford as 'ultimate champion of independent film'
https://www.asiaone.com/entertainment/ethan-hawke-hails-robert-redford
-ultimate-champion-independent-film

Robert Redford: Hollywood's beloved leading man, on and off screen


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Tuesday, September 23, 2025 9:36 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


a failure on the world wide stage, 2025 the year Hollywood died

international numbers

Quote:

1 Ne Zha 2 China $1,994,564,524
2 Lilo & Stitch $1,019,270,728
3 A Minecraft Movie $954,585,398
4 Jurassic World Rebirth $736,406,546
5 How to Train Your Dragon $609,978,139
6 Mission: Impossible—The Final Reckoning $592,101,824
7 Superman $531,606,392
8 F1: The Movie $528,270,512
9 Tang Tan 1900 China $452,502,745
10 Captain America: Brave New World $413,640,021
11 Thunderbolts* $382,376,746
12 Sinners $365,821,942
13 Final Destination: Bloodlines $285,330,814
14 The Fantastic Four: First Steps $268,917,087
15 Disney’s Snow White $205,679,463


one for the Predictions Thread?

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:


But it is going to be funny watching that Top List in 2025. It won't be until summertime before the US even has a shot to beat that Chinese flick. And if said flick grosses over $1.6 Billion like they're predicting it will, there's a somewhat decent chance that this movie stays at 1st place all year long.



Updates, new Snow White has fallen to 20th

1 Ne Zha 2
2 Lilo & Stitch
3 A Minecraft Movie
4 Jurassic World Rebirth
5 How to Train Your Dragon
6 F1: The Movie
7 Superman
8 Mission: Impossible—The Final Reckoning
9 Demon Slayer -Kimetsu no Yaiba
10 The Fantastic Four: First Steps
11 Detective Chinatown 1900
12 Captain America: Brave New World
13 The Conjuring: Last Rites
14 Thunderbolts*
15 Sinners

16 Dead To Rights
17 Final Destination: Bloodlines
18 Weapons
19 The Bad Guys 2
20 Disney’s Snow White
21 Detective Conan: One-eyed Flashback
22 Creation of the Gods II: Demonic Confrontation
23 Elio
24 Freakier Friday
25 28 Years Later
26 Dog Man
27 Mickey 17
28 From the World of John Wick: Ballerina
29 Bridget Jones: Mad About The Boy
30 Nobody

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