Hollywood's Abysmal 2024 in Numbers by 6ixStringJack

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Hollywood's Abysmal 2024 in Numbers

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Monday, July 1, 2024 5:47 PM

A Mid-Year breakdown of the Top 10 flicks worldwide in 2024 vs. End-of-Year 2023.

2023 Top 10 (Full Year):

Place / Movie Title / Worldwide Gross
1 Barbie - $1,432,340,485
2 The Super Mario Bros. Movie - $1,361,553,421
3 Oppenheimer - $976,120,348
4 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 - $845,468,744
5 Fast X - $714,567,285
6 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse - $681,222,435
7 Man Jiang Hóng (CHINA) - $634,631,282
8 Wonka - $629,037,798
9 The Little Mermaid - $568,345,048
10 Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning Part One - $566,644,143

2024 Top 10 (First Half of Year):

Place / Movie Title / Worldwide Gross
1 Inside Out 2 - $1,014,926,251
2 Dune: Part Two - $710,865,636
3 Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire - $569,907,104
4 Kung Fu Panda 4 - $545,608,913
5 YOLO (CHINA) - $479,597,304
6 Pegasus 2 (CHINA) - $469,847,217
7 Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes - $387,434,301
8 Article 20 (CHINA) - $339,663,274
9 Bad Boys: Ride or Die - $331,957,666
10 Boonie Bears:Time Twist (CHINA) - $276,297,758

Notable Mentions:

1. In 2023, only one Chinese movie (or non US movie period) made the Top 10. Man Jiang Hóng did not play at all in the US and still managed 7th place worldwide for the year.

2. In the first half of 2023, 4 Chinese movies remain on the Top 10 list. Two of them are close to half a Billion dollars and could very well stay on the Worldwide Top 10 list when the year closes. Boonie Bears at 10th place will be off the list shortly after Despicable Me comes out next weekend. I'm pretty sure there's no way that Article 20 (8th place) would survive on the Top 10 through August.

3. Worldwide 2023 Top 10 total gross was $8,409,930,989. Worldwide 2023 Top 10 total gross for only US movies in the Top 10 was $7,775,299,707.

4. Worldwide 2024 Top 10 total gross so far is 5,126,105,424. Worldwide 2024 Top 10 Total gross for only US movies in the Top ten is only $3,560,699,871.

Keep in mind that these aren't Cumulative numbers that are going to improve just because there is half a year left. In order for either of these numbers to grow further, it requires new movies coming out that top the list and push other movies off the list so they're not counted anymore.

The only real benefit to this for anyone is the US Box Office when they do make anything that will displace any of the current 4 Chinese movies off the Top 10 and/or prevents new Chinese releases from making the Top 10 list.

Now, a look at budgets and actual money made or lost on these...

2023 Top 10 (Full Year):

Place / Movie Title / Worldwide Gross / Budget / Gross Profit
1 Barbie - $1,432,340,485 / $151,000,000 / $1,054,840,485
2 The Super Mario Bros. Movie - $1,361,553,421 / $100,000,000 / $1,111,553,421
3 Oppenheimer - $976,120,348 / $100,000,000 / $726,120,348
4 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 - $845,468,744 / $220,468,744
5 Fast X - $714,567,285 / $340,000,000 / (-$135,432,715)
6 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse - $681,222,435 / $100,000,000 / $431,222,435
7 Man Jiang Hóng (CHINA) - $634,631,282 / $72,200,000* / $454,131,282
8 Wonka - $629,037,798 / $125,000,000 / $316,537,798
9 The Little Mermaid - $568,345,048 / $250,000,000 / (-$56,654,952)
10 Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning Part One - $566,644,143 / $290,000,000 / (-$158,355,857)

Total 2023 Top 10 Gross Profit: $3,964,430,989
Total 2023 Gross Profit for US Movies in the Top 10: $3,510,299,707

2024 Top 10 (First Half of Year):

Place / Movie Title / Worldwide Gross / Budget / Gross Profit
1 Inside Out 2 - $1,014,926,251 / $200,000,000 / $514,926,251
2 Dune: Part Two - $710,865,636 / $190,000,000 / $235,865,636
3 Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire - $569,907,104 / $135,000,000 / $232,407,104
4 Kung Fu Panda 4 - $545,608,913 / $85,000,000 / $333,108,913
5 YOLO (CHINA) - $479,597,304 / $100,000,000* / $229,597,304
6 Pegasus 2 (CHINA) - $469,847,217 / Unknown** / $219,847,217
7 Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes - $387,434,301 / $160,000,000 / (-$12,565,699)
8 Article 20 (CHINA) - $339,663,274 / Unknown** / $89,663,274
9 Bad Boys: Ride or Die - $331,957,666 / $100,000,000 / $81,957,666
10 Boonie Bears:Time Twist (CHINA) - $276,297,758 / Unknown** / $26,297,758

Total 2024 Top 10 Gross Profit: $1,951,105,424
Total 2024 Gross Profit for US Movies in the Top 10: $1,385,699,871

*Sources for Chinese Movie Budgets (may not reflect reality at all, honestly):

Man Jiang Hóng (2023): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_River_Red
YOLO (2024): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YOLO_(film)

** And that's it... China didn't even report any of the other movie butgets anywhere. So I'm just attributing the $100 Million budget from YOLO to all of them. If China disagrees with me, they're completely free to put that info out there and correct the record.

It's probably safe to do that though. China spent over $72 Million on Man Jiang Hóng last year, and $100 Million on YOLO this year, so it appears they probably aren't much smarter than Hollywood is about budgets.

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Tuesday, July 23, 2024 5:43 PM

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crashed and its not just costs or scripts or retired actors or inflation

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Tuesday, July 23, 2024 5:45 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

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I bet none of these people are voting for Joe Biden* a 2nd time.

Will California continue to vote Radical Left

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Tuesday, July 23, 2024 5:47 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

People are craving a Gladiator sequel in 2024 just as much as they're craving a Twister sequel, and if Gladiator carried the same $200 Million price tag that Twisters did, they're just going to lose more money.

Joker 2 will be fine if they kept the budget low.

another for the Predictions thread?

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Tuesday, July 23, 2024 5:49 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Hollywood is dead...

Why Hollywood Is Dying

'Nobody goes to the movies anymore': Hollywood is now 'dead'

Hollywood is Dying. What Happened?

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Tuesday, July 23, 2024 8:53 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

People are craving a Gladiator sequel in 2024 just as much as they're craving a Twister sequel, and if Gladiator carried the same $200 Million price tag that Twisters did, they're just going to lose more money.

Joker 2 will be fine if they kept the budget low.

another for the Predictions thread?

Sure. I got the Twisters one right already, despite the false media hype surrounding it, including by people who should know better.

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Wednesday, July 24, 2024 6:34 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

sold his part of Disney

https://deadline.com/2024/07/ike-perlmutter-sells-entire-disney-stake-
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Wednesday, July 24, 2024 7:02 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Awwwwwwwwww...

We're back down to $90 a share, huh?

What happened to that rally?

They currently have a movie that's going to gross over $1.5 Billion, making it the most profitable movie in the last 3 years even over Top Gun: Maverick, yet their stock has dropped $12 per share since Inside Out 2's release date.

I guess it's nice to have one big win when everything else you're doing is failing all around you. Not that it's doing them much good, apparently.

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Wednesday, July 24, 2024 3:17 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Whoops... we're back under $90 a share today.

It would appear the fact that IO2 has already out-grossed Barbie and is only 2 or 3 days away from out-grossing Top Gun: Maverick is not doing anything to impress the Market.

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Thursday, July 25, 2024 6:35 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/chris-pine-star-trek-2.html

According to Chris Pine, the core audience for those Kelvinverse films were “the diehards,” and he said (channeling Star Trek fans everywhere) that Paramount should focus more on making films that appeal to those hardcore fans rather than “trying to please people who don’t want to see what we do.”

While he didn’t get into the gritty details, it sounds like he is calling out Paramount for doing things like making every cinematic Trek adventure a breathless action film when this is a franchise built on more mellow concepts like exploration, understanding, and philosophy.

The Stakes Are Too High

Before you write off all of Chris Pine’s thoughts here as simple pandering or pie-in-the-sky hopes, you should know that he is very clear-eyed about the problems facing Star Trek and other major Hollywood franchises.

He pointed out Hollywood’s obsession with making big-budget blockbusters, saying that it takes “half a billion dollars to make these films that you like” (we’re assuming he’s counting the cost of marketing into this).

These huge production costs mean that “for it to be considered successful and everyone to be paid back, you have to make extraordinary amounts of money.”

Chris Pine seems to think Paramount has backed themselves into a corner with Star Trek films, embracing the mentality that each one of them needs to have a budget big enough to make Quark’s eyes bulge out.

Then, because of the outsized budget, there is the perceived need to make the film appeal to as many people as humanly possible. The end result is the worst of both worlds: a film that appeals neither to general audiences nor franchise diehards and simply flops.

Perhaps reading our minds (maybe Chris Pine has picked up some mild telepathy from starring alongside Star Trek’s most famous Vulcan for so long), the actor proposed a simple solution for Paramount.

“I think we just make a much smaller film that’s more story-driven, more character-based, there’s less sh*t exploding…Also shoot it on film, not digital. And then you have the fanbase.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, July 25, 2024 2:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Good for you, Chris.

It's too bad you're such a good looking guy. You're on the wrong side of the cameras here.

You're smart enough to recognize one of the biggest problems in the industry though... Years after we've been saying it, but way before the people on the other side of the camera have figured it out.

You've got clout and you're an actor. Why don't you just wear a $10k suit one day and walk into one of those board meetings like you own the place and lay it all down for them?

SPOILER ALERT: They all make a lot more money than you do. You could be even richer if you were sitting in one of those seats.

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Thursday, July 25, 2024 2:15 PM

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I don't think Horizon: An American Saga Chapter 1 is going to make the $125 Million it needs to break even.

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Horizon-An-American-Saga-Chapter-1-(
2024)#tab=summary

I don't think we're going to see a second chapter to this saga. I hope it wasn't a cliffhanger.

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Monday, July 29, 2024 6:47 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

I'll never understand why Disney is so focused on live-action remakes when they literally own the rights to the Muppets. I would take a Muppet remake of a Disney Animation classic over a live-action remake all day every day.

Muppet Beauty and the Beast where the Beast is played by the only human actor and he turns into a Muppet at the end.

The Beast should be a conventionally attractive actor whom the Muppet townspeople continually call hideous until true love releases him from this curse and he shows true beauty - blue felt and plastic eyes.

https://ckerouac.tumblr.com/post/682548887514464256/ill-never-understa
nd-why-disney-is-so-focused-on

Upcoming Disney live-action remakes of cartoons:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Disney_live-action_adaptations_a
nd_remakes_of_Disney_animated_films#Upcoming

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, July 29, 2024 2:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

That Muppet idea is actually really good.

But the fact that Disney owns it is the problem.

Jim Henson was the soul of the Muppets. Disney is a soulless corporation. A black hole where creativity goes to die.

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Thursday, August 1, 2024 6:42 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

a terrible star t then Dune part 2 did ok and now can Hollywood studios finish strong and make money?

'France' earning used to be important for overseas money but maybe not anymore, Japan was always slow but overseas box office has also returned, there is China market, Australia market, Brazil, S. Korea, Argentina, Italy, Spain many other places to make money overseas.

I think the French used to be about a 2 Billion market, years back France easily was 3rd or 4th in the world. Then China, South Korea, Germany, Japan started to beat France, even Australia and Mexico numbers compare to France...Russia of course is 'out' under sanctions.

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Thursday, August 1, 2024 1:30 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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a terrible star then Dune part 2 did ok and now can Hollywood studios finish strong and make money?

That's a loaded question. Hollywood isn't just a singularity.

2023 was not good, especially when comparing the production budgets to the worldwide gross overall, but it was better than 2024 by comparison.

That being said, Disney alone lost somewhere in the area of $2 Billion in 2023. I believe the "official" count the last time I updated that list was just over $1.8 Billion, but it's since come out that The Marvels, Indy 5 and The Little Mermaid all had higher production budgets than were initially stated and Bruce has those new figures up on the-numbers. It's quite possible they actually lost over $2 Billion with those updated budget figures.

And I believe that Universal conversely made somewhere around $2 Billion profit in 2023. WB despite all of its comic book flops had Barbie and Wonka and a few others and still managed a respectable 2023 take. Not everyone was a loser in 2023 for sure.

*I really should take some time and get around to completing that 2023 list now that we're in August of 2024.

Disney's only released 2 movies this year (if you're not including 20th century fox or searchlight), and they're probably going to make $2 Billion in profit on those two movies alone. Universal, on the other hand, has had quite a bit of bad news this year so far. Although Despicable Me 4 will cover a lot of their losses. I really don't know where they stand at all at the moment.

As for 2024, I really have no idea what those standings would be. AFAIK, nobody else presents the data in the way that I did last year, so I would have to spend at least an entire day gathering all of that data and making this years list up to date in my spreadsheets, and then another day or two converting those spreadsheets into charts for people to see here. (That is really a HUGE pain because of how dated this site is).

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'France' earning used to be important for overseas money but maybe not anymore, Japan was always slow but overseas box office has also returned, there is China market, Australia market, Brazil, S. Korea, Argentina, Italy, Spain many other places to make money overseas.

It all depends on the movie, I guess. Some movies aren't doing squat overseas this year while other movies are doing gangbusters.

I've seen you mention the "France Factor" twice this week. Do you have any proof of that? I'm not saying that you're wrong, but with all the work I've done gathering data on movies over the last year and a half it's something that never jumped out at me before. But I never was doing any country by country breakdowns, so there would really have been no reason for me to know this.

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Thursday, August 15, 2024 6:21 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Borderlands

Total domestic gross stands at $10.24M. it is now one of the Biggest Flops in History?

https://x.com/BORReport/status/1823804812561146060

Borderlands DISASTER Gets Even WORSE Biggest FLOP Of The Year!

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Thursday, August 15, 2024 10:11 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I hear that poor kid was in the Acolyte too.

The only thing I've seen of her was the Borderlands trailer.

If she's actually a good actress, she's going to have a hard time crawling out from those two holes in the future.

I just got the bad news that Eternals isn't getting a sequel and they will not return. That's 10 needlessly "diverse" roles that won't need a refill.

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Saturday, August 17, 2024 12:04 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

The Aliens movies should do well.

Though I have just about zero interest in watching it, I think at a budget of only $80 Million it's going to leave people wondering where all these other movies spending $100 to $250 Million or more are putting that money.

I think it easily gets back 100% of the budget this weekend, probably making closer to 150%.

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Friday, August 23, 2024 4:56 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

dumb idea of remaking 'The Crow'

it might score something like 20% out of 100

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_crow_2024/reviews

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Friday, August 23, 2024 5:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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dumb idea of remaking 'The Crow'

it might score something like 20% out of 100

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_crow_2024/reviews

Well that sounds like a goddamned masterpiece compared to Borderlands.

Literally nobody asked for this remake. Any Emo depressed kid in school has already seen the original and loved it, not to mention they're never going to re-create the lore and immortality of the original after Brandon Lee died.

Everybody responsible for green lighting this should immediately be fired and never offered another job in the industry again.

And unlike other movies Hollywood has ruined with endless remakes and reboots, I didn't even care much for the original myself. It is a mid movie.

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Monday, August 26, 2024 5:48 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Some ok numbers

Disney / 20th Century's Alien: Romulus has passed the $200M global mark.
https://x.com/BORReport/status/1827728497802100872
The film grossed an estimated $41.6M internationally this weekend. Estimated international total stands at $152.8M, estimated global total stands at $225.4M.

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Sunday, September 1, 2024 3:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

China just got another entry into the Top 10 for 2024. It's on the low end, so it's just displacing a US movie that would have been displaced if the US managed to take over the top 10 by the end of the year anyhow, but China even being able to add another movie to the Top 10 in the last week in August is pretty pathetic.

US has the Top 6, then it's "YOLO" with $479,597,304 in 7th, "Pegasus 2" with $466,930,272 in 8th, and "Successor" with $438,580,182 in 9th.

So summer time came and went and the only 3 movies that managed over half a billion during the summer blockbuster season were 2 kids movies and Deadpool & Wolverine.

Can Hollywood pull out 4 more before the year is over?

Maybe. Some of the movies that they put out in December did rather well into the new year.

Nothing that remains in theaters right now is going to help.

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Thursday, September 5, 2024 6:58 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Adventures In The Screen Trade by William Goldman (1984)

This book was begun at the greatest time of panic and despair in modern Hollywood history - late January of '82. Future film scholars may well term it "the Heaven's Gate era." And certainly that movie received more media coverage than any other contemporary disaster.

But only a few enlightened bookkeepers will know for sure if it lost more than, say, Raise the Titanic! or Honky Tonk Freeway.

During the holiday season of '81-'82, sixteen films were released by the major studios. Of those, only one - On Golden Pond - was a runaway success. And ten of the sixteen each lost more than ten million dollars. One major studio executive told me recently, "Of course the failures are upsetting. But there have always been failures. What's got us so immobilized now is that whatever it is that we're making, we're missing the audience by a wider margin than ever before. We don't know what they want. All we do know is that they don't want what we're giving them."

Perhaps the key word above is immobilized. By the end of February, only ten films will have begun production. At the same time a year ago, twenty-five had started shooting.

Again, this is the worst period within memory. By the time this book sees print, it may well be the best period within memory. The point being this: Movies are a gold-rush business.

Anyone interested in what follows had best commit that fact to memory....

What follows, generically speaking, is a book about Hollywood. It may not come as a total shock to you if I say this is not the first attempt to mine that subject.

All I can provide that is different is my point of attack: I have been, for close to twenty years now, a screenwriter. I have seen a lot, learned more than a little - most of it, alas, too late.

In terms of authority, screenwriters rank somewhere between the man who guards the studio gate and the man who runs the studio (this week). And there is a whole world to which we are not privy. And I thought it may be helpful to know at least something about just what is taking place Out There. With that in mind, I've interviewed a number of people who work the other side of the street: studio executives, producers, directors, and stars. By the time we're done, it's my hope that you'll understand a good deal more about why you see what you see on the screen.

Download a free copy of Adventures In The Screen Trade from https://libgen.is//search.php?req=William+Goldman+Screen

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, September 7, 2024 6:58 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

and sometimes movies make less money on election year

the Fed, Blackrock and Vanguard will need to print Hollyweirdo studios more money to burn?

This fall, Hollywood tries to balance box office with the ballot box
https://japantoday.com/category/entertainment/this-fall-hollywood-trie
s-to-balance-box-office-with-the-ballot-box#comments

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